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Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« on: December 16, 2020, 05:16:50 PM »
These ODM-Kieleweke morons should concentrate on issues..like Sonko corruption case and it would appear genuine.

Otherwise Nairobeans we elected Sonko knowing who he is.

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2020, 04:40:50 AM »
These ODM-Kieleweke morons should concentrate on issues..like Sonko corruption case and it would appear genuine.

Otherwise Nairobeans we elected Sonko knowing who he is.

Nah, Sonko is very unpopular, most Nairobians will be happy to see the end of his tenure.

Don't let the euphoria of Msambweni victory get to your head. Pick and choose your battles wisely.

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2020, 05:29:59 AM »
Yes army seems to be doing well but sonko cared about the poor..that matter..like pablo Escobar

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2020, 05:58:08 AM »
Yes army seems to be doing well but sonko cared about the poor..that matter..like pablo Escobar

Are chokora not poor? Has Sonko ever helped chokoras who incidentally I have to remind you are also Kenyans? Badi of NMS gave them jobs to help pave Nairobi walkways although ILO complained that, it was child labor.
You are naive to think our run of the mill political class "care about the poor"... they are a selfish lot... don't believe me? Read this:

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-12-16-sonko-flew-daughter-to-us-on-taxpayers-money-mcas/

And by the way it is not "attack of democracy" but attack ON democracy. What is happening to your English ... becoming senile?

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2020, 10:55:31 AM »

When it becomes political unfortunately people take it in a different way. Kambas in Nairobi will still vote for him, the slum dwellers and Jubilees Ruto faction will atill vote for him. And if ODM throws the hat in the ring expect it to snow ball to a level it might affect the handshake. This is what wome of us wish for.

These ODM-Kieleweke morons should concentrate on issues..like Sonko corruption case and it would appear genuine.

Otherwise Nairobeans we elected Sonko knowing who he is.

Nah, Sonko is very unpopular, most Nairobians will be happy to see the end of his tenure.

Don't let the euphoria of Msambweni victory get to your head. Pick and choose your battles wisely.

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2020, 01:57:27 PM »
i think after Msambweni ODM might be hesitant about squaring it out in Nairobi with hustler. Or maybe Uhuru-Raila don't want a distracting by-election. Otherwise this mostly depends on Raila&Uhuru. Sonko has been throwing those brick-bats at Uhuru at every opportunity.

Naturally Pundit never saw a thug he didn't wish to die for: starting with Waititu, Obado, Lenolkulal, name it. What exactly is good about Sonko? Is it the incompetence, the teenage hangovers, rants & tantrums, bizarre dresscodes, uncouthness-foul mouth-insults, unsorted sleaze cases, running a parallel rescue service to his own admin, maintaining CECs and cabinet on temp contracts, failure to appoint DG, quarrels & antagonising NMS? This man-child should never have been elected governor.

Personally I wish he was impeached yesterday. Maybe they can confirm the Meru lady he appointed as DG then she completes his term. Prevail on DPP to drop her suit. This CLOWN should have been fired long ago.
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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2020, 02:06:05 PM »
First I believe in DEMOCRACY. I believe in absolute democracy. I believe people have the right to elect Trump or Obama or Sonko or Pablo Escobar. It's foundation of my politics and my life - including engagement in nipate. I believe everyone has the right to think or say or do as they want.

Once that is clear -  I believe Nairobi made a decision - very unanimous - they had many choice - Peter Kenneth was there - Miguna - Gakuo - Jimnah Mbaru - Kidero - all those are different talents.

And yet Sonko floored them - and won.

There is something Sonko represent - he represent the crude form of hustle movement - the non-tribal pro poor politics - that refocus on the real issues facing majority of Kenya - 60% of Nairobeans are slum dwellers. They don't care about many things - but not getting evicted on the land they occupy and call home is probably no 1. Sonko is there for them.

I believe Sonko should be allowed to run his course.

And then come 2022 like Trump - he can be fired or hired.

But everyone knows Sonko has NEVER been allowed to function. Therefore if by-election is held today - SONKO WIN AGAIN!
WACHA MADHARAU - ALL VOTES ARE EQUAL.

i think after Msambweni ODM might be hesitant about squaring it out in Nairobi with hustler. Or maybe Uhuru-Raila don't want a distracting by-election. Otherwise this mostly depends on Raila&Uhuru. Sonko has been throwing those brick-bats at Uhuru at every opportunity.

Naturally Pundit never saw a thug he didn't wish to die for: starting with Waititu, Obado, Lenolkulal, name it. What exactly is good about Sonko? Is it the incompetence, the teenage hangovers, tantrums, bizarre dresscodes, uncouthness-foul mouth-insults, unsorted sleaze cases, running a parallel service to his own medical, maintaining CECs and cabinet on temp contracts, failure to appoint DG, quarrels & antagonising NMS? This man-child should never have been elected governor.

Personally I wish he was impeached yesterday. Maybe they can confirm the Meru lady he appointed as DG then she completes his term. Prevail on DPP to drop her suit. This CLOWN should have been fired long ago.

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2020, 02:11:09 PM »
Sonko has grown impressively well. He has invested in ngumbaru and is now an above average public speaker.

I have never understood why we keep being told not to be emotional when you are being screwed. All over the world even so called great kick tantrums all over. Uhuru even was banging tables just same way Sonko was punching walls.

The 10 year rule no public office after an impeachment will finish any politician.
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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2020, 02:11:25 PM »
Give sonko support and chance to mess up..we signed up for it..not Uhuru to supervise him.Sonko must complete 5yrs..tutaridisha yeye tenants ndio hiyo chapter ikamilike

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2020, 02:48:38 PM »
Sonko has grown impressively well. He has invested in ngumbaru and is now an above average public speaker.

I have never understood why we keep being told not to be emotional when you are being screwed. All over the world even so called great kick tantrums all over. Uhuru even was banging tables just same way Sonko was punching walls.

The 10 year rule no public office after an impeachment will finish any politician.

Please clarify - is this chapter 6? I doubt Sonko would be allowed to run again but he would definitely be influential - maybe back another hustler. Although he has a full closet of carcasses they can use to squeeze him into silence.
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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2020, 03:05:52 PM »
Give sonko support and chance to mess up..we signed up for it..not Uhuru to supervise him.Sonko must complete 5yrs..tutaridisha yeye tenants ndio hiyo chapter ikamilike

Sonko troubles began by deluding himself he can outfox GEMA - particularly Uhuru - by bullying out Igathe. Recall after he refused to step down for PK and out-thugged him in mlolongo - the Kikuyu mafia of Gitaus and Murathes seconded Igathe as DG. Ruto himself did the intro. I see Sonko nightmare as self-made - akin to Ruto more or less - blackmailing GEMA in 2017 but later whining about fairness. You cannot outman a thug like Uhuru - unless like Ruto you are big fish but small omenas will be squashed. Sonko has outlasted Waititu by a year but is probably being trolled and ridiculed right now.

If by-election comes - Uhuru will pretend he has no candidate and leave non-Gema to square it out. In meantime he will use his puppet Speaker Ben Muturi? - to hand over few remaining functions to NMS. I mean with Handshake MCAs, County Speaker Muturi, Lusaka, Eugene lined up it easy-peasy. You see Uhuru candidate General Badi already won with flying colors :) It will be huge empty title for next governor.
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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2020, 03:34:32 PM »
Well even Saddam and Osama were popular mashinani - but picked fights with the wrong guys. After routing Shiites and Saudis they got overconfident. That Sonko problem - thinking Uhuru is Gakuo or PK. Anyway democracy includes checks & balances- Sonko has been impeached by MCAs fair & square -  and is now fairly represented at the Senate hearing by senior counsel in full media glare. That democratic enough for me.

Nairobi is getting okay service from NMS. If it was dead end I would care. With Badi why does Nairobi need this moron?

Of course your convenient definition of "democracy" is a yawn. Democracy apart from checks, balances and rules, include freedom of voters to choose without bribery, violence, etc. You have one eye closed here as you did in Kibra and Wajir. Say the brazen corruption of flying MCAs to Malindi or Lamu island - during impeachment vote :o :-\ - strange you don't see any issue with "democracy" there.

First I believe in DEMOCRACY. I believe in absolute democracy. I believe people have the right to elect Trump or Obama or Sonko or Pablo Escobar. It's foundation of my politics and my life - including engagement in nipate. I believe everyone has the right to think or say or do as they want.

Once that is clear -  I believe Nairobi made a decision - very unanimous - they had many choice - Peter Kenneth was there - Miguna - Gakuo - Jimnah Mbaru - Kidero - all those are different talents.

And yet Sonko floored them - and won.

There is something Sonko represent - he represent the crude form of hustle movement - the non-tribal pro poor politics - that refocus on the real issues facing majority of Kenya - 60% of Nairobeans are slum dwellers. They don't care about many things - but not getting evicted on the land they occupy and call home is probably no 1. Sonko is there for them.

I believe Sonko should be allowed to run his course.

And then come 2022 like Trump - he can be fired or hired.

But everyone knows Sonko has NEVER been allowed to function. Therefore if by-election is held today - SONKO WIN AGAIN!
WACHA MADHARAU - ALL VOTES ARE EQUAL.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2020, 04:54:24 PM »
Sonko was overrated and he started believing he is also presidential material. He was too busy stealing public money and displaying it to the public. You do not steal and start abusing the system. It got him by the balls and if Uhuru is serious he can land this fwllow where he belongs in Shimo La Tewa. After signing off his powers to NMS, Sonko was a lame duck and he should have accepted his fate. He is today the only governor without portfolio. :D :D :D

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2020, 06:07:15 PM »
Sonko troubles indeed start and ends with GEMA feel entitled to Nairobi governorship on account of their numbers and economic muscle. The rest are details. But I don't see a GEMA governor soon because GEMA have become insular - and yet they will max out at 30%.
Sonko troubles began by deluding himself he can outfox GEMA - particularly Uhuru - by bullying out Igathe. Recall after he refused to step down for PK and out-thugged him in mlolongo - the Kikuyu mafia of Gitaus and Murathes seconded Igathe as DG. Ruto himself did the intro. I see Sonko nightmare as self-made - akin to Ruto more or less - blackmailing GEMA in 2017 but later whining about fairness. You cannot outman a thug like Uhuru - unless like Ruto you are big fish but small omenas will be squashed. Sonko has outlasted Waititu by a year but is probably being trolled and ridiculed right now.

If by-election comes - Uhuru will pretend he has no candidate and leave non-Gema to square it out. In meantime he will use his puppet Speaker Ben Muturi? - to hand over few remaining functions to NMS. I mean with Handshake MCAs, County Speaker Muturi, Lusaka, Eugene lined up it easy-peasy. You see Uhuru candidate General Badi already won with flying colors :) It will be huge empty title for next governor.

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #15 on: December 17, 2020, 06:23:23 PM »
But surely Sonko used to that...before he was elected.
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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2020, 06:30:07 PM »
Eng Kibicho laywer from Ushago prosecute Sonko case.

I think Sonko can still win this - ODM are no longer sure if they are coming or going

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2020, 06:58:50 PM »
Eng Kibicho laywer from Ushago prosecute Sonko case.

I think Sonko can still win this - ODM are no longer sure if they are coming or going

If they are wise enough its now worth risking but then again they are known to be poor in strategy

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2020, 07:03:03 PM »
Yes they are screwing it up. It becoming embarrassing. Why have someone like Mechanical Engineer Kibicho doing your political job. The guy is obviously book intelligent to get PHd in Engineering but politics is not engineering.

Uhuru has to re-evaluate his advisors - and have more people like the ever present Joseph Kinyua - long serving finance PS - on the forefront - than the jokers he has.

Get Joseph Kinyua, Biwott daughter Esther Koimett and many of the career public servants who know how to get work done with little drama.

Eng Kibicho laywer from Ushago prosecute Sonko case.

I think Sonko can still win this - ODM are no longer sure if they are coming or going

If they are wise enough its now worth risking but then again they are known to be poor in strategy

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Re: Sonko impeachment is almost like an attack of democracy
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2020, 07:22:22 PM »

Ive been evaluating Kenyatta the last couple of days , I ve seen the people he has put in the office of the president ,apart from Gecaga and Kinyua the rest the Waitas, Mbugua, Muturi, Kariuki etc there is a big minus you can see where the problem is.

Now come to his political advisors Murathe and Tuju who are running the Jubilee party he seems only to be listening to them where party matters are concerned and you have the biggest Raila fans their intention seems to be giving Raila Jubilee for posterity.
Then you go back to history you realize that Uhuru single handedly killed K.A.N.U  and sadly th same way he is killing Jubilee . There will be a massive walkout as you know Jubilee already lost in ward elections in Muranga and Naivasha and pro Ruto people won.

Again back to history TNA as a party was not functional he had left the party running to Sakaja and Oloo , no party elections no nothing, thats how  he mismanages parties.

One thing he is really lucky of is Ruto will become the next president  and thus wont go after the looting he , his family and friends have done. If the hustler nation was under a roguw person like Miguna  post presidency would be a nightmare for him. Ruto adores Uhuru ,its evident apart from politics they are personal friends.

Yes they are screwing it up. It becoming embarrassing. Why have someone like Mechanical Engineer Kibicho doing your political job. The guy is obviously book intelligent to get PHd in Engineering but politics is not engineering.

Uhuru has to re-evaluate his advisors - and have more people like the ever present Joseph Kinyua - long serving finance PS - on the forefront - than the jokers he has.

Get Joseph Kinyua, Biwott daughter Esther Koimett and many of the career public servants who know how to get work done with little drama.

Eng Kibicho laywer from Ushago prosecute Sonko case.

I think Sonko can still win this - ODM are no longer sure if they are coming or going

If they are wise enough its now worth risking but then again they are known to be poor in strategy