Merus are getting Shafted by Somali - Miraa should be BANNED worldwide

[KenyanPlato]

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The silly drug should be nuked like Coca plants in Colombia.

Njuri
How comes these Wariahs are always on your case. Without Miraa Meru will go back t stone age and the only thing you will be selling is NJAHI

Miraa (khat), a mild narcotic drug exported to Somalia, is sorted at Wilson Airport in Kenya's capital Nairobi. In November, Mogadishu banned imports of miraa and flights from Kenya until after the country completes elections. PHOTO | AFP

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Sheikh Madobe recently announced soon after landing in Kismayu from Nairobi that Jubbaland will not hold the elections for senators that were was scheduled for December 1-10, until Mogadishu withdraws its troops from Gedo.

Mogadishu then accused Nairobi of having influenced Sheikh Madobe to go against the September election agreement with the view to destabilise the election process.

But Kenya’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs immediately termed the accusations false and “regretful”.

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The recent Kenya Somalia diplomatic spat where Somalia President Mohammed Abdullahi Farmaajo recalled his envoy from Nairobi, brings to the Farmaajo administration’s displeasure at what he terms Kenya treating Somalia like a “foster child” and not an equal partner.

On November 29, Farmaajo recalled his ambassador to Kenya, Mohamud Ahmed Nur for “consultation.” He also ordered Kenya’s envoy to Somalia, Lucas Tumbo, to return to Nairobi, in what Mogadishu said was undue “interference” in the internal affairs of Somalia.

At the centre of the diplomatic spat is Jubbaland President, Ahmed Mohamed Islam, commonly known as Sheikh Madobe, who sources say always reneges on agreements after making calls or visiting Nairobi. The Farmaajo administration believes Sheikh Madobe has been working closely with Kenyan intelligence for “ulterior “motives.

Sheikh Madobe recently announced soon after landing in Kismayu from Nairobi that Jubbaland will not hold the elections for senators that were was scheduled for December 1-10, until Mogadishu withdraws its troops from Gedo.

Mogadishu then accused Nairobi of having influenced Sheikh Madobe to go against the September election agreement with the view to destabilise the election process, but Kenya’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs immediately termed the accusations false and “regretful”.

“Kenya continues to support the people of Somalia in their quest for peace and stability, as well as making a meaningful contribution towards re-establishment of institutions of political governance,” said the statemen

[Njuri Ncheke]

I agree with you. I have never vouched for miraa as a commercial product but only for social traditional purposes. The leverage Somalia has over Merus just because of miraa is unimaginable they even control Meru north politics just way Mogadishu control North Eastern this honestly disgusts me.
Miraa was a peaceful herb by late 80s but when Somalia disintegrated and the somalis ran abroad that's when Miraa became a commercial product. All horn of Africa kabilas grew and consumed Miraa for thousands of years, Meru because of its fertile lands was able to produce and meet demands of these kabilas, but even then it was more like barter trade nothing huge. By late 90s miraa was worth around 15% of Kenyas GDP those hot headed north Merus became stinking rich and schools were abandoned in the hundreds std 4 kids were millionaires they looked down on education and the learned. The social set up was upset as the young now with money looked down on anyone. But how things change now they are looking the other way.
Miraa should have never been commercialized look at Yemen and Somalia countries in total disarray because of miraa trade. Merus those of north descent need get away from it and be like others in horticulture and dairy produce.

[hk]

Ati miraa in the 90s was 15% of kenya GDP? Maybe in miraa economics but real kenyan economics Meru including thraka nithi haas never even approached  5% of kenya GDP https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/for-the-first-time-the-relative-economic-size-of-kenyas-counties-is-clear . That includes all economic activity, tea , coffee cereals , tourism , miraa, name it etc.
Miraa immediate threat is muguka, cheaper more potent. There's zero research that has gone to lowering cost of producing miraa, zero investment in branding, packaging , genetics etc. Meru by now should have a miraa brand with prerequisite packaging . Miraa are still being wrapped with banana leaves. Try branding that!

[KenyanPlato]

Ati miraa in the 90s was 15% of kenya GDP? Maybe in miraa economics but real kenyan economics Meru including thraka nithi haas never even approached  5% of kenya GDP https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/for-the-first-time-the-relative-economic-size-of-kenyas-counties-is-clear . That includes all economic activity, tea , coffee cereals , tourism , miraa, name it etc.
Miraa immediate threat is muguka, cheaper more potent. There's zero research that has gone to lowering cost of producing miraa, zero investment in branding, packaging , genetics etc. Meru by now should have a miraa brand with prerequisite packaging . Miraa are still being wrapped with banana leaves. Try branding that!

This borona from meru call njuri has eaten too many matahas and Njahii mpaka he cant think...

Yes muguka us potent..a small batch and you are high as a kite

[Nowayhaha]

Ati miraa in the 90s was 15% of kenya GDP? Maybe in miraa economics but real kenyan economics Meru including thraka nithi haas never even approached  5% of kenya GDP https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/for-the-first-time-the-relative-economic-size-of-kenyas-counties-is-clear . That includes all economic activity, tea , coffee cereals , tourism , miraa, name it etc.
Miraa immediate threat is muguka, cheaper more potent. There's zero research that has gone to lowering cost of producing miraa, zero investment in branding, packaging , genetics etc. Meru by now should have a miraa brand with prerequisite packaging . Miraa are still being wrapped with banana leaves. Try branding that!

You are underestimating mitaa and overestimating Kenyas GDP .
What is Kenyas GDP? Take for example this is a fact when Uhuru came to power Kenya airways foreign income was bringing 15% to Kenyas GDP aince the ban of Miraa to Europe and U.K. KQ profits nosedived

[KenyanPlato]

Nowaya

You are a finance and economics idiot. Kq is cant even wipe it financial arse leave alone bring 15% of gdp. Get an educafion first before payukaring like muguruki

[Nowayhaha]

Nowaya

You are a finance and economics idiot. Kq is cant even wipe it financial arse leave alone bring 15% of gdp. Get an educafion first before payukaring like muguruki

You are ignorant, by 2013 KQ revenues were grossing around 100Billion and much of it was feom foreign countries meaning money was coming into Kenya ala foreign exchange  by then around 15% of Kenyas GDP , titht now Kaq injects around 115Billion around 5%  of Kenyas GDP. This are all facts.
Feel free to google

[RV Pundit]

Njuri - kenya economy is now nearly 10 trillion annually - 115B kshs is 1.15%

You are ignorant, by 2013 KQ revenues were grossing around 100Billion and much of it was feom foreign countries meaning money was coming into Kenya ala foreign exchange  by then around 15% of Kenyas GDP , titht now Kaq injects around 115Billion around 5%  of Kenyas GDP. This are all facts.
Feel free to google

[KenyanPlato]

Pundit educate this idiot. He was dropped on his head as a baby

[Njuri Ncheke]

Njuri - kenya economy is now nearly 10 trillion annually - 115B kshs is 1.15%

You are ignorant, by 2013 KQ revenues were grossing around 100Billion and much of it was feom foreign countries meaning money was coming into Kenya ala foreign exchange  by then around 15% of Kenyas GDP , titht now Kaq injects around 115Billion around 5%  of Kenyas GDP. This are all facts.
Feel free to google

Am talking about the late 1990s why cant you guys read my statement there clearly. GDP then was around 30B$. and yes i stick that then Miraa made about 15% of kenyas GDP without a doubt

[Njuri Ncheke]

Ati miraa in the 90s was 15% of kenya GDP? Maybe in miraa economics but real kenyan economics Meru including thraka nithi haas never even approached  5% of kenya GDP https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/for-the-first-time-the-relative-economic-size-of-kenyas-counties-is-clear . That includes all economic activity, tea , coffee cereals , tourism , miraa, name it etc.
Miraa immediate threat is muguka, cheaper more potent. There's zero research that has gone to lowering cost of producing miraa, zero investment in branding, packaging , genetics etc. Meru by now should have a miraa brand with prerequisite packaging . Miraa are still being wrapped with banana leaves. Try branding that!

Why don't you bring statistics from the 1990s this you posting year is just recent devolution stuff. Miraa and I repeat you can break a sweat or pop a vein it made 15% of Kenyas GDP in late 1990s.

[hk]

Ati miraa in the 90s was 15% of kenya GDP? Maybe in miraa economics but real kenyan economics Meru including thraka nithi haas never even approached  5% of kenya GDP https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/for-the-first-time-the-relative-economic-size-of-kenyas-counties-is-clear . That includes all economic activity, tea , coffee cereals , tourism , miraa, name it etc.
Miraa immediate threat is muguka, cheaper more potent. There's zero research that has gone to lowering cost of producing miraa, zero investment in branding, packaging , genetics etc. Meru by now should have a miraa brand with prerequisite packaging . Miraa are still being wrapped with banana leaves. Try branding that!

Why don't you bring statistics from the 1990s this you posting year is just recent devolution stuff. Miraa and I repeat you can break a sweat or pop a vein it made 15% of Kenyas GDP in late 1990s.

In the late 90s exports per GDP averaged 22% https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS?locations=KE the average value of total exports $3b. Meanwhile kenya's export to somali averaged about $30m https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/KEN/Year/1999/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/SOM/Product/all-groups .  This would mean Miraa contribution was less than 1%. 

[Njuri Ncheke]

Ati miraa in the 90s was 15% of kenya GDP? Maybe in miraa economics but real kenyan economics Meru including thraka nithi haas never even approached  5% of kenya GDP https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/for-the-first-time-the-relative-economic-size-of-kenyas-counties-is-clear . That includes all economic activity, tea , coffee cereals , tourism , miraa, name it etc.
Miraa immediate threat is muguka, cheaper more potent. There's zero research that has gone to lowering cost of producing miraa, zero investment in branding, packaging , genetics etc. Meru by now should have a miraa brand with prerequisite packaging . Miraa are still being wrapped with banana leaves. Try branding that!

Why don't you bring statistics from the 1990s this you posting year is just recent devolution stuff. Miraa and I repeat you can break a sweat or pop a vein it made 15% of Kenyas GDP in late 1990s.

In the late 90s exports per GDP averaged 22% https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS?locations=KE the average value of total exports $3b. Meanwhile kenya's export to somali averaged about $30m https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/KEN/Year/1999/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/SOM/Product/all-groups .  This would mean Miraa contribution was less than 1%.

Clearly you fall short on the mental side that deals with analytical thinking. Miraa export to Somali though huge in quantity was less in terms of cash. Real hard cash came from UK and Netherlands where Miraa raked in billions of hard Dollars during the 90s. To get proper figures look at Kenyas exports to Europe and even then some Miraa figures would be lost under agricultural export to those countries.
Why do I feel as if am only the Most Intelligent person in Nipate

[Njuri Ncheke]

I think all of you with exception of Noway don't really understand what Miraa was in the 90s. Dont look at Somalia look at the exports to Europe mainly UK and Netherlands. Somalia though a huge market was in disarray because of the wars and most of somalis went to Europe creating networks and supply chains very formidable. It is even well known that Moi used to borrow money from Miraa kingpins to facilitate his harambees etc. Illiterate Merus like Kalweo were made Interior minister yet they never set foot in school but were worth billions. The list is endless. Miraa dealers used to only buy new hilux or land cruisers and use them for only 6 months and sell of at through away prices. Then one pickupload of Miraa was said to have a value equivalent of that Toyota hilux. I know of some guys who had even 11 Toyita Hiluxs now rotting away.

[RV Pundit]

meru self-delusion. these kind of stories I use to hear at campus from meru - together with tusker/kenya breweries - selling more beer in meru than anywhere else.

I think all of you with exception of Noway don't really understand what Miraa was in the 90s. Dont look at Somalia look at the exports to Europe mainly UK and Netherlands. Somalia though a huge market was in disarray because of the wars and most of somalis went to Europe creating networks and supply chains very formidable. It is even well known that Moi used to borrow money from Miraa kingpins to facilitate his harambees etc. Illiterate Merus like Kalweo were made Interior minister yet they never set foot in school but were worth billions. The list is endless. Miraa dealers used to only buy new hilux or land cruisers and use them for only 6 months and sell of at through away prices. Then one pickupload of Miraa was said to have a value equivalent of that Toyota hilux. I know of some guys who had even 11 Toyita Hiluxs now rotting away.

[hk]

Ati miraa in the 90s was 15% of kenya GDP? Maybe in miraa economics but real kenyan economics Meru including thraka nithi haas never even approached  5% of kenya GDP https://blogs.worldbank.org/africacan/for-the-first-time-the-relative-economic-size-of-kenyas-counties-is-clear . That includes all economic activity, tea , coffee cereals , tourism , miraa, name it etc.
Miraa immediate threat is muguka, cheaper more potent. There's zero research that has gone to lowering cost of producing miraa, zero investment in branding, packaging , genetics etc. Meru by now should have a miraa brand with prerequisite packaging . Miraa are still being wrapped with banana leaves. Try branding that!

Why don't you bring statistics from the 1990s this you posting year is just recent devolution stuff. Miraa and I repeat you can break a sweat or pop a vein it made 15% of Kenyas GDP in late 1990s.

In the late 90s exports per GDP averaged 22% https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.EXP.GNFS.ZS?locations=KE the average value of total exports $3b. Meanwhile kenya's export to somali averaged about $30m https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/KEN/Year/1999/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/SOM/Product/all-groups .  This would mean Miraa contribution was less than 1%.

Clearly you fall short on the mental side that deals with analytical thinking. Miraa export to Somali though huge in quantity was less in terms of cash. Real hard cash came from UK and Netherlands where Miraa raked in billions of hard Dollars during the 90s. To get proper figures look at Kenyas exports to Europe and even then some Miraa figures would be lost under agricultural export to those countries.
Why do I feel as if am only the Most Intelligent person in Nipate

Oh lord!! So lets take 1998 for example kenya total exports were $870m https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/WLD/Year/1998/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/USA/Product/all-groups that was 20% of GDP. Three countries Uganda, Tanzania and Usa contributed about half of the total exports i.e 10% of GDP.  So if we were to assume that the rest of the world only bought Miraa that'd give miraa contribution to 10%. Now what's the likelihood of the rest of world only buying Miraa? As much odds as Miraa contributing to 15% of GDP. That's the absurdity of your argument, but hey people can believe their own folklore tales.

[RV Pundit]

Merus are some of the most self-deluded people I know of.

Oh lord!! So lets take 1998 for example kenya total exports were $870m https://wits.worldbank.org/CountryProfile/en/Country/WLD/Year/1998/TradeFlow/Export/Partner/USA/Product/all-groups that was 20% of GDP. Three countries Uganda, Tanzania and Usa contributed about half of the total exports i.e 10% of GDP.  So if we were to assume that the rest of the world only bought Miraa that'd give miraa contribution to 10%. Now what's the likelihood of the rest of world only buying Miraa? As much odds as Miraa contributing to 15% of GDP. That's the absurdity of your argument, but hey people can believe their own folklore tales.

[Nowayhaha]

Njuri - kenya economy is now nearly 10 trillion annually - 115B kshs is 1.15%

You are ignorant, by 2013 KQ revenues were grossing around 100Billion and much of it was feom foreign countries meaning money was coming into Kenya ala foreign exchange  by then around 15% of Kenyas GDP , titht now Kaq injects around 115Billion around 5%  of Kenyas GDP. This are all facts.
Feel free to google

https://kippra.or.ke/index.php/resource-centre/blogs/162-repositioning-kenya-airways-on-its-feet-fast#:~:text=IATA%20projects%20a%20double%20growth,the%20significance%20of%20the%20sector.

yielding US$ 11.3 billion boosts to GDP and supporting an estimated 859,000 jobs by 2037. The aviation sector currently accounts for 4.6% of Kenya’s GDP and supports over 410,000 jobs, underscoring the significance of the sector.

[Nowayhaha]

Nowaya

You are a finance and economics idiot. Kq is cant even wipe it financial arse leave alone bring 15% of gdp. Get an educafion first before payukaring like muguruki

You need aviation studies  to understand the impact of an airline to a country . Its not as black and white as you think.

[RV Pundit]

I hope you don't imply aviation sector=KQ.

Njuri - kenya economy is now nearly 10 trillion annually - 115B kshs is 1.15%

You are ignorant, by 2013 KQ revenues were grossing around 100Billion and much of it was feom foreign countries meaning money was coming into Kenya ala foreign exchange  by then around 15% of Kenyas GDP , titht now Kaq injects around 115Billion around 5%  of Kenyas GDP. This are all facts.
Feel free to google

https://kippra.or.ke/index.php/resource-centre/blogs/162-repositioning-kenya-airways-on-its-feet-fast#:~:text=IATA%20projects%20a%20double%20growth,the%20significance%20of%20the%20sector.

yielding US$ 11.3 billion boosts to GDP and supporting an estimated 859,000 jobs by 2037. The aviation sector currently accounts for 4.6% of Kenya’s GDP and supports over 410,000 jobs, underscoring the significance of the sector.