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BBI No camp: here's Ruto lineup of losers and NGO types
« on: December 01, 2020, 10:50:40 AM »
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Re: BBI No camp: here's Ruto lineup of losers and NGO types
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2020, 11:15:12 AM »

If Martha handles this well  she might get claut in Mt Kenya.
We are seeing a repeat of 1990.

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Re: BBI No camp: here's Ruto lineup of losers and NGO types
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2020, 01:34:13 PM »
BBI will end in premium tears because they've gone for signature collection with unpopular document. It cannot be cured now of it's fatalities

They should have listened to Ruto and ironed out issues. One of big one is unwiedly parliament that could go as high was 600mps. That is NOT acceptable.

This one is opposite of Punguza Mzigo.

Parliament of 600mps would be a joke.

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Re: BBI No camp: here's Ruto lineup of losers and NGO types
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2020, 04:15:13 PM »
Parliament already at today's size is a big joke. Who really needs more representatives in Kenya? What is their function with a parliament speaker like Justin Muturi, who takes orders from SH?
Former and current Jubilee supporters should not cry since when they were at the top they behaved as if all is well in Kenya. It is now coming back to bite them.

BBI will end in premium tears because they've gone for signature collection with unpopular document. It cannot be cured now of it's fatalities

They should have listened to Ruto and ironed out issues. One of big one is unwiedly parliament that could go as high was 600mps. That is NOT acceptable.

This one is opposite of Punguza Mzigo.

Parliament of 600mps would be a joke.

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Re: BBI No camp: here's Ruto lineup of losers and NGO types
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2020, 04:19:19 PM »
What exactly did we as Jubilee member do to increase Mps. It you and Raila in 2010 who refused to iron out such issues..and now want to make it worse.

This idea where Jubilee members bear responsibility for gov failure is funny!

Our business as voters ended when we voted. We cannot be responsible for who we voted. It's not anybody liability. It's those elected responsbility. Leader change..you cannot hold the voter accountable.

This is why we have regular election - for example - we are probably going to again kick 80 of MPs now - and bring new ones.

Parliament already at today's size is a big joke. Who really needs more representatives in Kenya? What is their function with a parliament speaker like Justin Muturi, who takes orders from SH?
Former and current Jubilee supporters should not cry since when they were at the top they behaved as if all is well in Kenya. It is now coming back to bite them.

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Re: BBI No camp: here's Ruto lineup of losers and NGO types
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2020, 04:29:11 AM »
BBI is going to pass - otherwise Mobutu would be opposing - now he is watermelon.

Pundit & Noway - do you wana call this? Noway for once stop being katikati.
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Re: BBI No camp: here's Ruto lineup of losers and NGO types
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2020, 10:50:18 AM »
Only a moron would support something opposed by majority of kenya - thinking prov admin - will ram it down the throat of kenya.

Ruto will oppose it.

BBI is going to pass - otherwise Mobutu would be opposing - now he is watermelon.

Pundit & Noway - do you wana call this? Noway for once stop being katikati.

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Re: BBI No camp: here's Ruto lineup of losers and NGO types
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2020, 12:21:18 PM »
Why the katikati approach? usually he is firm, decisive hand ala Raila. It obvious Raila&Uhuru want to corner him into No - which strange when No is 80% landslide. These are your usual theories and magic numbers - 80 is a steep climb from hustler 65% mere few weeks ago.

Only a moron would support something opposed by majority of kenya - thinking prov admin - will ram it down the throat of kenya.

Ruto will oppose it.

BBI is going to pass - otherwise Mobutu would be opposing - now he is watermelon.

Pundit & Noway - do you wana call this? Noway for once stop being katikati.
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Re: BBI No camp: here's Ruto lineup of losers and NGO types
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2020, 12:33:47 PM »
75% is more like it - based on NIS - even within NASA - many kenyans oppose it.
I think you underrate public interest - and sentiments - at your own peril
Like you kept pushing for parliamentary system for 3yrs until your understood kenyans do not want it.

Biggest opposition to BBI is 600 large parliament - this one kenyans have rejected it in toto.

As for Ruto - he is playing the adult - but will obviously oppose it.

You understanding of kenya politics is truly whack - you think you can assemble top tribal leaders into a room - and almost pass anything - without regard to public interest :) :).  This you can do in your beloved parliamentary system. In presidential and referendum we are talking universal suffrage - and kenyans on the ballot box will oppose it


Why the katikati approach? usually he is firm, decisive hand ala Raila. It obvious Raila&Uhuru want to corner him into No - which strange when No is 80% landslide. These are your usual theories and magic numbers - 80 is a steep climb from hustler 65% mere few weeks ago.