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Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« on: October 11, 2020, 09:46:29 AM »
The pushback is gathering pace building the hustler movement across tribes. Matiang'i and Kibicho will have dust in their eyes very soon.

https://www.facebook.com/GovernorMikeSonkoMbuvi/posts/3563028607068795
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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2020, 09:51:13 AM »
They will threaten to impeach him :). Sonko problem is trying to play hot and cold. He needs to decide to go against Uhuru fully or cease fire otherwise I think he is nearly damaged brand. Ruto hustler nation can resurrect his dying career.

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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2020, 10:37:49 AM »
His skeletons are too stinky and easy to fish out but seems he is realizing that appeasement policy ain't working with vampiristic uhuru.
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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2020, 11:43:53 AM »
His skeletons are too stinky and easy to fish out but seems he is realizing that appeasement policy ain't working with vampiristic uhuru.
Politics is cut throat.He should ask oObado or Ruto.the waitutu kind of naivety.you have to go hard and long enough to make uhuru back off.He already lost it.His only hope is to join forces with hustler nation and lead slum uprising in Nairobi..and threaten the rich men of Karen.. and muthaiga..they will negotiate so fast like Raila did in migori .His power come from his ability to cut across Nairobi poor..using his money.That is his arsenal.Uhuru will only back off he has to...if Ruto crank the pressure a little notch higher..he will retreat to Gatundu as he should and prepare to retire

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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2020, 12:07:18 PM »
The relative sterling performance of Badi NMS compared to Sonko is what you should worry about. This exposes how useless political promises are. This hustler claims he did not even read the power transfer deed before signing. I wonder if he will even be eligible to run anywhere let alone Nairobi.

Of course it a lie that Sonko slum appeal nailed the governorship. After the brazen mlolongo ukora - voting was strictly tribal. Otherwise elitist Kidero would have lost 70-30. Sonko got Gema+Kamba+Somali vote. Mere 53%. Kavirondo slum dwellers voted Kidero. Sakaja got same margin.
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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2020, 01:17:22 PM »
They will threaten to impeach him :). Sonko problem is trying to play hot and cold. He needs to decide to go against Uhuru fully or cease fire otherwise I think he is nearly damaged brand. Ruto hustler nation can resurrect his dying career.

Sonko , should just give up, either way he is already a done deal.  He is damned if he does damned if he doesn't .
He keeps quite he continues eating salary , he fights it out he gets impeached . The only saviour is if the Govenors appeal  case wins . He will get options . 

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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2020, 04:57:53 PM »
You're most idiotic poster here. Sonko won Nairobi senate in 2013 - who rigged him in. He was not in URP. He won with 2nd higest votes after Uhuru/Raila. In 2017 - it was just a question of swtiching from senate to governor. Even Luos voted for Sonko.

I mean if Sonko was unpopualr - PK and Kidero combined would have beaten him. PK took 60K muranga votes from Sonko or so...but Sonko still beat Kidero like a drum.

Sonko is the original hustler - and Ruto need such people. Nobody really care about his tribe - because he also doesn't seem to care about tribe.

The relative sterling performance of Badi NMS compared to Sonko is what you should worry about. This exposes how useless political promises are. This hustler claims he did not even read the power transfer deed before signing. I wonder if he will even be eligible to run anywhere let alone Nairobi.

Of course it a lie that Sonko slum appeal nailed the governorship. After the brazen mlolongo ukora - voting was strictly tribal. Otherwise elitist Kidero would have lost 70-30. Sonko got Gema+Kamba+Somali vote. Mere 53%. Kavirondo slum dwellers voted Kidero. Sakaja got same margin.

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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2020, 05:01:32 PM »
Why give up yet he was elected by millions of kenyans. He needs to fight. Otherwise that is another Waitutu loading - you'll be crucified alone. They cannot impeach him because he has no deputy. It's an empty threat.
Sonko , should just give up, either way he is already a done deal.  He is damned if he does damned if he doesn't .
He keeps quite he continues eating salary , he fights it out he gets impeached . The only saviour is if the Govenors appeal  case wins . He will get options . 


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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2020, 06:50:40 PM »
2017 is what we are discussing here, not 2013. Senator is not as competitive as governor obviously. The massive disparity between opinion polls and outcome of Jubilee primaries was buffling

Ipsos opinion poll - Sonko 44% vs 45% PK
Mlolongo primaries- Sonko 66% vs 31% PK

Same nonsense occurred in Kiambu.

You're most idiotic poster here. Sonko won Nairobi senate in 2013 - who rigged him in. He was not in URP. He won with 2nd higest votes after Uhuru/Raila. In 2017 - it was just a question of swtiching from senate to governor. Even Luos voted for Sonko.

I mean if Sonko was unpopualr - PK and Kidero combined would have beaten him. PK took 60K muranga votes from Sonko or so...but Sonko still beat Kidero like a drum.

Sonko is the original hustler - and Ruto need such people. Nobody really care about his tribe - because he also doesn't seem to care about tribe.

The relative sterling performance of Badi NMS compared to Sonko is what you should worry about. This exposes how useless political promises are. This hustler claims he did not even read the power transfer deed before signing. I wonder if he will even be eligible to run anywhere let alone Nairobi.

Of course it a lie that Sonko slum appeal nailed the governorship. After the brazen mlolongo ukora - voting was strictly tribal. Otherwise elitist Kidero would have lost 70-30. Sonko got Gema+Kamba+Somali vote. Mere 53%. Kavirondo slum dwellers voted Kidero. Sakaja got same margin.
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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2020, 06:53:50 PM »
Sonko slum appeal is just hot air like Mobutu hustler nation. There is neither precedent nor credible poll backing it up. At least old MOAS were based on census.
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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2020, 08:28:54 PM »
Why give up yet he was elected by millions of kenyans. He needs to fight. Otherwise that is another Waitutu loading - you'll be crucified alone. They cannot impeach him because he has no deputy. It's an empty threat.
Sonko , should just give up, either way he is already a done deal.  He is damned if he does damned if he doesn't .
He keeps quite he continues eating salary , he fights it out he gets impeached . The only saviour is if the Govenors appeal  case wins . He will get options . 

Exactly RV , how do you win Jubilee primaries by fighting it out against Muranga Mafia who practically own Nairobi , then win against Kidero with Raila and ODM machinery , then in a blink of an eye give it out.
Now Uhuru with his BBI is already campaigning using Badi to make Nairobi a metropolitan city under Govt. Worse Sonko is a s confused as he comes he doesnt know whom to Support Raila or Uhuru, imagine someone who had the masses and half of the MCAs
He made his bed , let him lie on it

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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2020, 08:44:48 PM »

Nairobi is hard to sample. Don't trust opinion pollsters. First if you're sampling Jubilee...you should not interview Luos or Luhya or etc. But when doing a survey - how do you do that. Trust MOAS. It had Sonko win by far...based on simple common sense.

And why is 2013 out question - coz logic idiot doesn't make cut.

2017 is what we are discussing here, not 2013. Senator is not as competitive as governor obviously. The massive disparity between opinion polls and outcome of Jubilee primaries was buffling

Ipsos opinion poll - Sonko 44% vs 45% PK
Mlolongo primaries- Sonko 66% vs 31% PK

Same nonsense occurred in Kiambu.

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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2020, 08:45:46 PM »
Check Nairobi MOAS and my thinking then. Sonko was first Hustler Movement. Ruto is just copy-pasting it.
Sonko slum appeal is just hot air like Mobutu hustler nation. There is neither precedent nor credible poll backing it up. At least old MOAS were based on census.

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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2020, 01:05:15 AM »
Explain Kiambu.

Polls - tie
Mlolongo- Babayao 85% vs 11% Kabogo

Of course Luhya or Kamba or Gusii should still sample as Sonko basket since his popularity cut across tribes.


Nairobi is hard to sample. Don't trust opinion pollsters. First if you're sampling Jubilee...you should not interview Luos or Luhya or etc. But when doing a survey - how do you do that. Trust MOAS. It had Sonko win by far...based on simple common sense.

And why is 2013 out question - coz logic idiot doesn't make cut.

2017 is what we are discussing here, not 2013. Senator is not as competitive as governor obviously. The massive disparity between opinion polls and outcome of Jubilee primaries was buffling

Ipsos opinion poll - Sonko 44% vs 45% PK
Mlolongo primaries- Sonko 66% vs 31% PK

Same nonsense occurred in Kiambu.
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Re: Sonko the Hasora chokora taking on betrayer in chief
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2020, 01:55:21 AM »
Kabogo messed himself the last day. Are you daft. or just ingorant. Opinion polls do not always pan out. Kabogo made huge blunder the last minute by asking women to line up like a dogs titties so he can dish them money for panties -or so was said. And that basically killed him. All Kiambu women voted against him. And that was last minute.
Explain Kiambu.

Polls - tie
Mlolongo- Babayao 85% vs 11% Kabogo

Of course Luhya or Kamba or Gusii should still sample as Sonko basket since his popularity cut across tribes.


Nairobi is hard to sample. Don't trust opinion pollsters. First if you're sampling Jubilee...you should not interview Luos or Luhya or etc. But when doing a survey - how do you do that. Trust MOAS. It had Sonko win by far...based on simple common sense.

And why is 2013 out question - coz logic idiot doesn't make cut.

2017 is what we are discussing here, not 2013. Senator is not as competitive as governor obviously. The massive disparity between opinion polls and outcome of Jubilee primaries was buffling

Ipsos opinion poll - Sonko 44% vs 45% PK
Mlolongo primaries- Sonko 66% vs 31% PK

Same nonsense occurred in Kiambu.