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Poor Matiangi lives in Nyamira and yet his ambition will be killed hapo tu.

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2020, 09:53:57 PM »
Ruto is the Kenyan Robin Hood , Govt is very fearful of him

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2020, 12:28:04 PM »
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2020, 01:21:11 PM »
Gusii are hoping Uhuru will make Matiangi his presidential project. The same way PK, Mutua, Kalonzo and Raila are all hoping to be Uhuru project. That is all there is to see. The smart Gusii knows this is a pipe dream and are sticking with Ruto.
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2020, 01:26:24 PM »
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.


Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2020, 01:27:53 PM »
I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.

Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.

Gusii are hoping Uhuru will make Matiangi his presidential project. The same way PK, Mutua, Kalonzo and Raila are all hoping to be Uhuru project. That is all there is to see. The smart Gusii knows this is a pipe dream and are sticking with Ruto.
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.
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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2020, 01:29:41 PM »
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.


Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians

Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.
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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2020, 01:31:57 PM »
Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.

Gusii ground we will know soon enough.

I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.

Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #8 on: October 10, 2020, 01:34:33 PM »
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.


Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians

Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.

And which doesn't and has never worked .

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #9 on: October 10, 2020, 03:13:00 PM »
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.


Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians

Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.

And which doesn't and has never worked .

MPs, governors or elected leaders don't cause the popularity or victory - rather they follow the winning horse. Your mentor Pundit claims most have been intimidated - which is arguable but better than your denial and intransigence.
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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2020, 09:15:07 PM »
Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya.  This is political eating and entertainment time. 

Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.

Gusii ground we will know soon enough.

I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.

Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.
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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2020, 09:22:47 PM »
Just because Raila failed doesn't mean everyone will fail to beat the system. Raila succeed with Kibaki in 2002. And then he lost the plot because he has the sisyphian kind of curse where he cannot maintain friendship and support..and every election he starts from the scratch.

In 2002 - Raila and company beat Moi system.
In 2005  - Raila and company beat Kibaki system.
In 2007 - Raila should have won if Kallonzo had been selected.
In 2013 -  Raila would have won he if he had treated Ruto right. He lost all kalenjin votes and got Kamba votes. That got him stuck in 2007 position.
UhuRuto beat Kibaki-Raila system.
In 2017 - to be honest he really had no path to success - not with Uhuru keeping a tight winning coalition happy - by bending backwards to Ruto. That is a lesson Rala skipped in 2007.

Now 2022 - Raila is going to election again almost back to square one - where he is only assured of Luo votes - having completely destoryed NASA while trying to destroy Jubilee.
Now even if he wins part of Jubilee - it waste of money and time - because NASA is dead.

It would be a easy task of adding 5% to NASA 45%.

Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya.  This is political eating and entertainment time. 

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2020, 09:25:18 PM »
Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."

Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya.  This is political eating and entertainment time. 

Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.

Gusii ground we will know soon enough.

I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.

Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.
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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #13 on: October 10, 2020, 09:31:24 PM »
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.


Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians

Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.

And which doesn't and has never worked .

MPs, governors or elected leaders don't cause the popularity or victory - rather they follow the winning horse. Your mentor Pundit claims most have been intimidated - which is arguable but better than your denial and intransigence.

Case closed

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2020, 09:34:55 PM »
Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."

Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya.  This is political eating and entertainment time. 

Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.

Gusii ground we will know soon enough.

I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.

Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.

Outgoing Presidents Moi in 2002 failed with Uhuru and in 2013 Kibaki failed with Mudavadi.Tough luck

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2020, 09:35:03 PM »
I see all Gusii kahuna were at SH with Uhuru. Only 3 MPs support Mobutu.


Cant you comment without throwing elected politicians around , whats your obsession with elected politicians

Once you grasp correlation vs causation let me know. It is a basic concept.

And which doesn't and has never worked .

MPs, governors or elected leaders don't cause the popularity or victory - rather they follow the winning horse. Your mentor Pundit claims most have been intimidated - which is arguable but better than your denial and intransigence.

Case closed

Okay.
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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2020, 09:41:15 PM »
Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."

Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya.  This is political eating and entertainment time. 

Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.

Gusii ground we will know soon enough.

I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.

Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.

Outgoing Presidents Moi in 2002 failed with Uhuru and in 2013 Kibaki failed with Mudavadi.Tough luck

Moi first choice was Uhuru followed by Kibaki - he had big issue with Raila and Saitotis. Kibaki had Uhuru(to)'s back and sent Kalonzo all over to oppose ICC. Uhuruto toured the region with ministers in tow - Poghisio, Eugene, Mwakwere used to accompany them to see M7, Kikwete, Kagame. No CS can attend Mobutu rally now let alone go out of the country with him. Basically the dynasties don't want anyone promising reforms. Raila learnt this lesson after many failures- Mobutu is at Raila 2007 reforms and teargas stage.
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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2020, 09:49:44 PM »
Noway and Pundit - this headline shows you who Kibaki was backing in 2012. Definitely not Raila.


Why Ruto is courting Museveni and Kikwete
June 20th 2011
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000037469/why-ruto-is-courting-museveni-and-kikwete
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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2020, 10:03:07 PM »
Indeed the kikuyus I know - have resigned to "we love Mobutu but we know Uhuru will rig in Raila."

Kenyans know what Ruto knows that an outsider who is hated by those in government do not win elections in Kenya.  This is political eating and entertainment time. 

Matiangi has most powerful office - all those guys are linning up Matiangi office - for deals, jobs and tenders. But ultimately Matiangi has zero ground game. He has zero political network or experience. He is hoping he can just switch jobs through executive order.

Gusii ground we will know soon enough.

I guess only 3 MPs and DG Maang'i are smart enough to see your obvious perspective - Ongeris and shebang must be so stupid. Or well they have been intimidated.

Mobutu has 70% hustlers strangely nobody serious follow him in entire country :o Up is down theory.

Outgoing Presidents Moi in 2002 failed with Uhuru and in 2013 Kibaki failed with Mudavadi.Tough luck

Moi first choice was Uhuru followed by Kibaki - he had big issue with Raila and Saitotis. Kibaki had Uhuru(to)'s back and sent Kalonzo all over to oppose ICC. Uhuruto toured the region with ministers in tow - Poghisio, Eugene, Mwakwere used to accompany them to see M7, Kikwete, Kagame. No CS can attend Mobutu rally now let alone go out of the country with him. Basically the dynasties don't want anyone promising reforms. Raila learnt this lesson after many failures- Mobutu is at Raila 2007 reforms and teargas stage.
Moi had managed to give Raila SG in KANU, It was Ruto snd team who advices Moi to abandon Raila later for Uhuru
Kibaki and his deep state then were convinced Uhuru with ICC cases would not make it to the ballot secondly they thought it was so soon to have another Kikuyu succededing Kibaki   so they settled for Mudavadi , registered a party and handed it over to Mudavadi. Even Kibakis nephew vied on UDF. This is well known .
The same deep state jumped ship when they saw UhuRutos candidacy too strong. This time deep state unlike in 2013 when they jumped ship and supported  UhuRuto are prepared to enter into politics if they dont succeed in stopping Ruto . Thats the only difference

Ruto got it wrong in 2002 and in 2007 and got it right in 2013 and 2017. Raila got it right in 2002 and got it wrong in 97,2007,2013 and 2017 . He is on another wrong footing for 2022

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Re: Ruto didn't get to Matiangi's Nyamira homeground but hustler were ready
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2020, 10:13:42 PM »
Raila had half the gov - appointed IEBC, was in charge of procurement, had 35 ministers/ass minister ouf othe 72 Kabiniet :). He run as prime minister. What more leverage do you want. Ruto and Uhuru were mere Mps facing ICC.
Noway and Pundit - this headline shows you who Kibaki was backing in 2012. Definitely not Raila.


Why Ruto is courting Museveni and Kikwete
June 20th 2011
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000037469/why-ruto-is-courting-museveni-and-kikwete