After all bribery and intimidation - the best they can do is 26 mps and senators

[RV Pundit]

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This pretty much the pro-Uhuru/kieleweke/BBI in mt kenya - that are going to face hostile homeground.

[KenyanPlato]

These one will mostly likely get reelected. You see that tall skinny guy. He is mp of ruiru. He is from githunguri. If you go to githunguri on your way to kambaa before gitwe girls about 4 kms from the town his dad has a big green Victorian home. His dad owned a beer and cigarettes distributor in rural. Thexe are guys who used to go to UK in 1980s for shopping. This guy is such a stand up humble guy. He has really amazed me at how he won ruiru against mwaura it was from retail politics..he is poorly educated but he makes up that with hard work. Ng'ang'a is an example how raising kids right can be beneficial to society

[KenyanPlato]

My fear is kenyan are thinking Corona is gone. I hope it is gone but we are treading on thin ice

[Nefertiti]

These one will mostly likely get reelected. You see that tall skinny guy. He is mp of ruiru. He is from githunguri. If you go to githunguri on your way to kambaa before gitwe girls about 4 kms from the town his dad has a big green Victorian home. His dad owned a beer and cigarettes distributor in rural. Thexe are guys who used to go to UK in 1980s for shopping. This guy is such a stand up humble guy. He has really amazed me at how he won ruiru against mwaura it was from retail politics..he is poorly educated but he makes up that with hard work. Ng'ang'a is an example how raising kids right can be beneficial to society

Why is he poorly educated if the Ngangas were such a great family?

[Nowayhaha]

This pretty much the pro-Uhuru/kieleweke/BBI in mt kenya - that are going to face hostile homeground.

I can bet 10 Gs that only a Maximum of  4 of them will make it back to parliament . Where is Robina we place the bet . RV you can referee this one

[RV Pundit]

Just use the infotrack ranking recently..also apart from kangata none here is thinking of upgrading meaning they are playing defense coz the ground is hostile. Those in Ruto camp are nearly all planning to topple current governors

[RV Pundit]

These one will mostly likely get reelected. You see that tall skinny guy. He is mp of ruiru. He is from githunguri. If you go to githunguri on your way to kambaa before gitwe girls about 4 kms from the town his dad has a big green Victorian home. His dad owned a beer and cigarettes distributor in rural. Thexe are guys who used to go to UK in 1980s for shopping. This guy is such a stand up humble guy. He has really amazed me at how he won ruiru against mwaura it was from retail politics..he is poorly educated but he makes up that with hard work. Ng'ang'a is an example how raising kids right can be beneficial to society

what is retail politics..

[KenyanPlato]

These one will mostly likely get reelected. You see that tall skinny guy. He is mp of ruiru. He is from githunguri. If you go to githunguri on your way to kambaa before gitwe girls about 4 kms from the town his dad has a big green Victorian home. His dad owned a beer and cigarettes distributor in rural. Thexe are guys who used to go to UK in 1980s for shopping. This guy is such a stand up humble guy. He has really amazed me at how he won ruiru against mwaura it was from retail politics..he is poorly educated but he makes up that with hard work. Ng'ang'a is an example how raising kids right can be beneficial to society

Why is he poorly educated if the Ngangas were such a great family?

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Education is not for everyone. His brother is a PhD and a professor in California. I believe he is a screen writer. Nganga is not a dummy but he is not as smart as mwaura. However he makes that up with hard work. He is a very astute business man and community leader.

I mean nganga is not the type that will abandon their duty to his constituents for a few coins. His family name I would think is more important than just a few minutes on the limelight. These are kind of kikuyus that can move the society forward. During his campaigns he would physically fix the markets. He empowered the traders to be organize and fix their problems. He used the self reliance model. Unlike Mwaura who is a pure legislator and politician. Maura is best suited in policy and advocacy not servant leadership

[KenyanPlato]

These one will mostly likely get reelected. You see that tall skinny guy. He is mp of ruiru. He is from githunguri. If you go to githunguri on your way to kambaa before gitwe girls about 4 kms from the town his dad has a big green Victorian home. His dad owned a beer and cigarettes distributor in rural. Thexe are guys who used to go to UK in 1980s for shopping. This guy is such a stand up humble guy. He has really amazed me at how he won ruiru against mwaura it was from retail politics..he is poorly educated but he makes up that with hard work. Ng'ang'a is an example how raising kids right can be beneficial to society

what is retail politics..

It akin to micro and macro..so nganga deals with local problems. His sole focus is ruiru. He cares less what it happening nationally. On the other hange ichungwa deals more with macro issues. Two approaches. National leaders can do both by use of surrogates to do the micro. So in case of my villagemate he spends his time delivering for ruiru. He lives and breaths that. He knows the issue of each ward or area. He attends to that. Magugu was very good at this. He would deal with retail while holding political office. His dad was the same during colonialism. He single handedly encourage kikuyus to plant coffee and would increase their allotted quotas illegally. Magugu built schools, roads, hospitals. He didn't care if it was his constituency or not he would it and not ask for anything..it elevated him to god like status..Dr karanja was an maghoha like arsehole..his own mother lived in penury and karanja would visit her and park is Benz under a tree and not get out becoz he didn't want to his suit to get soot from his mothers kitchen. He was a poisonous bastard

[Nefertiti]

This pretty much the pro-Uhuru/kieleweke/BBI in mt kenya - that are going to face hostile homeground.

I can bet 10 Gs that only a Maximum of  4 of them will make it back to parliament . Where is Robina we place the bet . RV you can referee this one

Apples and oranges- equivocating MP churn with camps. It got nothing to do with political leaning.

[Nefertiti]

This pretty much the pro-Uhuru/kieleweke/BBI in mt kenya - that are going to face hostile homeground.

Njamba - I don't recognize most of these faces. Is there a Ruiru constituency? Roysambu?

Of course all these guys save one or two were Mobutu disciples few months or years ago. Except Wambugu, Wamuchomba and Kamanda. Mobutu is in a real panic.

[Nefertiti]

Dr Spin kweli. When MPs are with Mobutu he is popular - when they dump him they have high attrition rate. Talk is cheap - place your bet on Msambweni - is Mvurya backing hustler dog or what? You know your many theories about ground, polls, Jubilee laity, Ndii opinion, intimidation - is just mbio za sakafuni. We waited for MAD for 3 years - now Mobutu is waiting to be chased from Pangani.   What does a "chase" or "eviction" look like? - they been literally locked out of the building, Murkomens and Duales were long fired, the NMC and NEC is now stuffed with Uhuru men.

Few months ago Tangatanga MPs were being chased with nyahunyo from Uhuru rallies - but you and Itumbi were busy spreading lies on riverroadrag.com. The MPs unanimously fired Tangatanga at the PG - they practically lynched Tharaka dwarf save few Kalenjin senators - now they are meeting Murathe in hotels - you have new spin. Every real test done for the numbers Mobutu come up woefully short.

Nowayhaha leta hio kimbele mbele yako hapa - are we going to see hustler wave in Pwani or doesn't the voodoo work outside Mt Kenya? Isn't this the real "ground"? 

Msambweni is not even Hustler vs ODM - more like spin vs reality.

[RV Pundit]

Okay make sense. You mean a Jaluo kind of politician he isn't. This the problem with Luo Nyanza - except South Nyanza. Most ODM politicians are just into national issues - and not local issues. Someone like Raila or Orengo will never construct a toilet...but will talk a storm daily. Now most Luos are starting to refocus. In our place - retail politics is everything - people don't care much what you say in Nairobi - they want you in the ground providing practical leadership. The counties are now helping and hopefully we will have pure legislators - but not 400 of them - maybe just 100.

It akin to micro and macro..so nganga deals with local problems. His sole focus is ruiru. He cares less what it happening nationally. On the other hange ichungwa deals more with macro issues. Two approaches. National leaders can do both by use of surrogates to do the micro. So in case of my villagemate he spends his time delivering for ruiru. He lives and breaths that. He knows the issue of each ward or area. He attends to that. Magugu was very good at this. He would deal with retail while holding political office. His dad was the same during colonialism. He single handedly encourage kikuyus to plant coffee and would increase their allotted quotas illegally. Magugu built schools, roads, hospitals. He didn't care if it was his constituency or not he would it and not ask for anything..it elevated him to god like status..Dr karanja was an maghoha like arsehole..his own mother lived in penury and karanja would visit her and park is Benz under a tree and not get out becoz he didn't want to his suit to get soot from his mothers kitchen. He was a poisonous bastard

[RV Pundit]

Relax. Don't burst a vein. One thing at a time. Let talk the GEMA mps here supporting Uhuru - a president who is retiring. I am not sure why they are supporting him - because Uhuru doesn't need any support. Out the about 70 Gema Mps and senators...we have about 25 there...where are the 50. And that is after a lot of bribery and intimidation.

Bribery - they get paid to attack Ruto
Intimidation - KRA/CID/EACC/ARA

Dr Spin kweli. When MPs are with Mobutu he is popular - when they dump him they have high attrition rate. Talk is cheap - place your bet on Msambweni - is Mvurya backing hustler dog or what? You know your many theories about ground, polls, Jubilee laity, Ndii opinion, intimidation - is just mbio za sakafuni. We waited for MAD for 3 years - now Mobutu is waiting to be chased from Pangani.   What does a "chase" or "eviction" look like? - they been literally locked out of the building, Murkomens and Duales were long fired, the NMC and NEC is now stuffed with Uhuru men.

Few months ago Tangatanga MPs were being chased with nyahunyo from Uhuru rallies - but you and Itumbi were busy spreading lies on riverroadrag.com. The MPs unanimously fired Tangatanga at the PG - they practically lynched Tharaka dwarf save few Kalenjin senators - now they are meeting Murathe in hotels - you have new spin. Every real test done for the numbers Mobutu come up woefully short.

Nowayhaha leta hio kimbele mbele yako hapa - are we going to see hustler wave in Pwani or doesn't the voodoo work outside Mt Kenya? Isn't this the real "ground"? 

Msambweni is not even Hustler vs ODM - more like spin vs reality.

[Nefertiti]

I was surprised to note only Nyoro and Wahome support Mobutu in the entire Murang’a. The rest are Kieleweke. According to the Nipate dominatrix the reverse is ttue.

[Nowayhaha]

I was surprised to note only Nyoro and Wahome support Mobutu in the entire Murang’a. The rest are Kieleweke. According to the Nipate dominatrix the reverse is ttue.

Robina,
You need to concentrate with your so called " Punditry" . You certainly cannot understand Muranga politics and partly the reason Murathe convinced Peter Kenneth , it was easier to win in Nairobi as Muranga was a sealed deal .
You claim Ruto rigged in his associates . Wairia had prepared himself well in advance in anticipation of of PKs candidature in Muranga .

[Nefertiti]

I was surprised to note only Nyoro and Wahome support Mobutu in the entire Murang’a. The rest are Kieleweke. According to the Nipate dominatrix the reverse is ttue.

Robina,
You need to concentrate with your so called " Punditry" . You certainly cannot understand Muranga politics and partly the reason Murathe convinced Peter Kenneth , it was easier to win in Nairobi as Muranga was a sealed deal .
You claim Ruto rigged in his associates . Wairia had prepared himself well in advance in anticipation of of PKs candidature in Muranga .

So Murang'a is so complex that most MPs oppose Mobutu despite the hustler wave? But at least this is a better spin than claiming all leaders but Ndindi are scared of KRA. The entire Mt Kenya Mobutu now only has a handful of backers - especially Kikuyuland - his rabid tours all over show panic.

[Nefertiti]

Noway - I estimate 70% of Mt Kenya long deserted hustler. His pivot to Mijikenda and Gusii is indicative of spreading his eggs to more baskets out there. This mayhem in Murang'a is a last nail on his coffin kwa mlima. Taking on Prince Uhuru was the biggest blunder of his life starting with mlolongo.

Save this thread.

[Nowayhaha]

I was surprised to note only Nyoro and Wahome support Mobutu in the entire Murang’a. The rest are Kieleweke. According to the Nipate dominatrix the reverse is ttue.

Robina,
You need to concentrate with your so called " Punditry" . You certainly cannot understand Muranga politics and partly the reason Murathe convinced Peter Kenneth , it was easier to win in Nairobi as Muranga was a sealed deal .
You claim Ruto rigged in his associates . Wairia had prepared himself well in advance in anticipation of of PKs candidature in Muranga .

So Murang'a is so complex that most MPs oppose Mobutu despite the hustler wave? But at least this is a better spin than claiming all leaders but Ndindi are scared of KRA. The entire Mt Kenya Mobutu now only has a handful of backers - especially Kikuyuland - his rabid tours all over show panic.

WaIria and team  through a network of MCAs and their assistants stuffed ballots boxex with premarked papers during Jubilee nominations in 2017  Secondly note that a substantial number of former Mps decided to run  for Governor and Senate Posts , this gave room to the first term MPs  who majority came in through Wa irias machinery .
Now Wairia and his team have formed a party (Civic Renewal Party CRP) and are preparing to negotiate with Raila hence the commotion to popularize it. Ive told you before forget about current elected poltiticians the probabilty of them making it back in 10 out of 100 % . The Irias , Sabina Checges , Kangata know about it hence theyve taken the route of going it with their own party ,of course they know because the ground is tilted to Rutos favour then their main competitors will be Ruto .
One thing theyve forgotten out of all Mt Kenya counties , Muranga is tops in its hate against Raila , their is hate with passion , secondly Muranga is the hotbed of Mungiki due to poverty ,it will come after them as you saw in Kenol .

[Nowayhaha]

Noway - I estimate 70% of Mt Kenya long deserted hustler. His pivot to Mijikenda and Gusii is indicative of spreading his eggs to more baskets out there. This mayhem in Murang'a is a last nail on his coffin kwa mlima. Taking on Prince Uhuru was the biggest blunder of his life starting with mlolongo.

Save this thread.

So 70 % will vote for Raila ? You really dont know Muranga  . Once they hate they hate with passion  . Moi in 92 got 59 votes in Murangas Gatanga , same like in  92  as Kamotho said , theyd rather vote for a Dog than  Raila come 2022 .
What happened in Kenol is that Sabina Chenge and Iria in conjunction with Wamuchomba all BBI adherents imported slum dwellers from Kiandutu in Kiambu to cause mayhem in Kenol Muranga . The slum dwellers were rounded and 2 of them succumbed to mob justice by Muranga residents .
As was the script to depict Ruto as vilent  - ODM and Raila were at it  with Press statements and conferences of How Ruto is violent . Now the most saddest part is that there were orders from MuratheD inlaw NjiruL to state police to desert Kenol and aid the violence 

How now you think think this is Mt Kenya deserting Ruto is beyond . The truth is what is coming out is unlike Kisii who watched the paid interupters in action , Mt Kenya is ready to defend Ruto , with or without Police , actually after bringing peace in Kenol they attacked police for aiding the kiadutu slum dwellers  .The electorate is more informed now .