Mobutu's wobbling campaign and runningmate conundrum

[Nefertiti]

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Ruto’s running mate headache as allies maintain a low profile
https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/news/politics/ruto-ready-for-poll-but-where-is-mate-1921470

DP Ruto was initially said to be keen on a running mate from the Mount Kenya region or Western, but his targets have since decamped, lost national influence or fallen out of favour.

Analysts, however, think Mr Kiunjuri would not be of much help to the DP if President Kenyatta—who has all but confirmed he might renege on his promise to back the DP for the top job in 2022—stamps his authority.

Political analyst Herman Manyora says the DP remains in a state of quagmire as political bigwigs are allied to President Kenyatta and Mr Odinga’s Handshake team.

“Any association with Ruto comes at a high cost. The biggest challenge he has is the pariah status he’s being pushed into. The system is making it very difficult for people to want to work with him,” Prof Manyora says.

He argues that the DP is also in a dilemma as the vote-rich Mount Kenya region is also making demands for the running mate position “despite their vote not being guaranteed because of the President Kenyatta factor.”

[Nefertiti]

DEADBEAT: Deputy President William Ruto

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Rumors of Ruto demise are greatly exaggerated, he will be deputize for Raila. He is a smart chap

[Nowayhaha]

Ruto’s running mate headache as allies maintain a low profile
https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/news/politics/ruto-ready-for-poll-but-where-is-mate-1921470

DP Ruto was initially said to be keen on a running mate from the Mount Kenya region or Western, but his targets have since decamped, lost national influence or fallen out of favour.

Analysts, however, think Mr Kiunjuri would not be of much help to the DP if President Kenyatta—who has all but confirmed he might renege on his promise to back the DP for the top job in 2022—stamps his authority.

Political analyst Herman Manyora says the DP remains in a state of quagmire as political bigwigs are allied to President Kenyatta and Mr Odinga’s Handshake team.

“Any association with Ruto comes at a high cost. The biggest challenge he has is the pariah status he’s being pushed into. The system is making it very difficult for people to want to work with him,” Prof Manyora says.

He argues that the DP is also in a dilemma as the vote-rich Mount Kenya region is also making demands for the running mate position “despite their vote not being guaranteed because of the President Kenyatta factor.”

President Moi facor was detrimental to Uhuru in 2002 , President Kibaki factor was detrimental to Mudavadi in 2013 .
The so called fall out between Uhuru and Ruto has been a blessing in disguise for Ruto - If it wasnt it for that all the illls caused by Uhuru would be blamed on him .
Secondly these so called Political Analysts are hired mercenaries disguising as intellectuals  . Who doesnt know Manyora has been bidding for Raila since 2007  albeit with Nil success .

[Nowayhaha]

Rumors of Ruto demise are greatly exaggerated, he will be deputize for Raila. He is a smart chap

If he refused to do that when he was offered the same position as Uhuru had offered him in 2013  , what makes you think he will go for that 10 years later . Further The constitution does not allow for him to Run another term as a deputy .

[RV Pundit]

The opinion polls show Ruto clear favourite but now our reality  is distorted.Losers like Gideon,PK and even Raila who is now glorified Lou leader back to factory settings are winners.There are matiangis who are hoping to jump straight
into PORK from civil service.  The idea is Uhuru will rig them in...hopeless uhuru that can't even win formulae debate...his first battle  without Ruto helping hand After them are hopeless madvd and poor kaloi.Ruto will pick  Mwangi Kiunjuri and the rest are details

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

The opinion polls show Ruto clear favourite but now our reality  is distorted.Losers like Gideon,PK and even Raila who is now glorified Lou leader back to factory settings are winners.There are matiangis who are hoping to jump straight
into PORK from civil service.  The idea is Uhuru will rig them in...hopeless uhuru that can't even win formulae debate...his first battle  without Ruto helping hand After them are hopeless madvd and poor kaloi. Ruto will pick  Mwangi Kiunjuri and the rest are details

That is a losing ticket.

[Njuri Ncheke]

Mzito Ruto is sleep walking to PORK, unlike, Gideon, kalonzo, raira, mudavadi, oparanya, wetangula, matiangi, joho etc depending on uhuru to endorse them, how stupid is this, yaani wanaume kumi kumtegemea mwanaume mmoja ili hawatosheleze, what a bunch of sissies. It even sounds gay. After corona mega scandal is done, people will see mzito Ruto as saviour.

[Nowayhaha]

Mzito Ruto is sleep walking to PORK, unlike, Gideon, kalonzo, raira, mudavadi, oparanya, wetangula, matiangi, joho etc depending on uhuru to endorse them, how stupid is this, yaani wanaume kumi kumtegemea mwanaume mmoja ili hawatosheleze, what a bunch of sissies. It even sounds gay. After corona mega scandal is done, people will see mzito Ruto as saviour.

All the politicians youve mentioned are depending on BBI to create posts so that they can align themselves accordingly either on Railas side or Rutos side. They hope by clinnging on Uhuru BBI will happen by end of the year and the additional post of Prime Minister , Deputy Prime Minister  and Regional  Governors /Ministers can be created and with that gobble for the seats .
One thing they have not factored in is that they might actually lose the referendum and the referendum might be pushed to be held together with 2022  elections .

[RV Pundit]

There is no other legit GEMA candidate who can deputize Ruto. MK tick many boxes.

That is a losing ticket.

[Nefertiti]

Mzito Ruto is sleep walking to PORK, unlike, Gideon, kalonzo, raira, mudavadi, oparanya, wetangula, matiangi, joho etc depending on uhuru to endorse them, how stupid is this, yaani wanaume kumi kumtegemea mwanaume mmoja ili hawatosheleze, what a bunch of sissies. It even sounds gay. After corona mega scandal is done, people will see mzito Ruto as saviour.

How many freeloaders are hanging on Mobutu coattails? Khalwale, Omar Hassan, Muthama - the "think tank" is a collection of losers. Delusional Muthama claims to have chokehold on Kamba. Khalwale was clobbered 70-20 by Oparanya but will deliver Luhya. Omar is expected to deliver Coast when he was distant 3rd for Mombasa governor

[Nefertiti]

I guess you can't see beyond your nose as usual. Ala revenue formula.

The opinion polls show Ruto clear favourite but now our reality  is distorted.Losers like Gideon,PK and even Raila who is now glorified Lou leader back to factory settings are winners.There are matiangis who are hoping to jump straight
into PORK from civil service.  The idea is Uhuru will rig them in...hopeless uhuru that can't even win formulae debate...his first battle  without Ruto helping hand After them are hopeless madvd and poor kaloi.Ruto will pick  Mwangi Kiunjuri and the rest are details

[Nefertiti]

Ruto’s running mate headache as allies maintain a low profile
https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/news/politics/ruto-ready-for-poll-but-where-is-mate-1921470

DP Ruto was initially said to be keen on a running mate from the Mount Kenya region or Western, but his targets have since decamped, lost national influence or fallen out of favour.

Analysts, however, think Mr Kiunjuri would not be of much help to the DP if President Kenyatta—who has all but confirmed he might renege on his promise to back the DP for the top job in 2022—stamps his authority.

Political analyst Herman Manyora says the DP remains in a state of quagmire as political bigwigs are allied to President Kenyatta and Mr Odinga’s Handshake team.

“Any association with Ruto comes at a high cost. The biggest challenge he has is the pariah status he’s being pushed into. The system is making it very difficult for people to want to work with him,” Prof Manyora says.

He argues that the DP is also in a dilemma as the vote-rich Mount Kenya region is also making demands for the running mate position “despite their vote not being guaranteed because of the President Kenyatta factor.”

President Moi facor was detrimental to Uhuru in 2002 , President Kibaki factor was detrimental to Mudavadi in 2013 .
The so called fall out between Uhuru and Ruto has been a blessing in disguise for Ruto - If it wasnt it for that all the illls caused by Uhuru would be blamed on him .
Secondly these so called Political Analysts are hired mercenaries disguising as intellectuals  . Who doesnt know Manyora has been bidding for Raila since 2007  albeit with Nil success .

Mobutu backed Uhuru in 2002 - Raila in 2007 - flopped both times. Noone has any magic pill circumstances and strategy matter more. 60 years Uhuru is not senile like Moi and Kibaki. Funny you raise "hiring" of mercenaries - which is Mobutu's primary modus operandi. If Mobutu was genuinely popular he wouldn't need to pay off folks to back him. It is why they vaporize at his hour of need as we saw in parliament.

[Nefertiti]

Yes - there are no other legit GEMA candidates on Ruto's side.

There is no other legit GEMA candidate who can deputize Ruto. MK tick many boxes.

That is a losing ticket.

[Nefertiti]

Pundit and Tangatangarites - PK has emerged as Uhuru GEMA successor. It clear as broad daylight

https://standardmedia.co.ke/the-standard-insider/article/2001383325/power-merchants-in-2022-succession

[RV Pundit]

These are new signings. The old players are entrenched. Ruto start with near clean sweap of rift valley and pastoral kenya. That is already a huge head-start. He is fighting for his political life in GEMA and so far he still very popular on the ground.  He he support in all corners of kenya. Only Raila use to boast of that.

What next? The BBI crew - will they unite? Under who? Kalonzo and Raila don't see eye to eye. GEma and Raila don't jell. Gideon is hoping against hope. maDVD confused as ever

The small potatos like PK and Matiangi are hoping Uhuru will issues Executive Order No Last to make them president We haven't gone to jokers like Mutua, Makueni Prof, and Wa-riria.

Now here comes Ruto the clear favourite already with running mate.

How many freeloaders are hanging on Mobutu coattails? Khalwale, Omar Hassan, Muthama - the "think tank" is a collection of losers. Delusional Muthama claims to have chokehold on Kamba. Khalwale was clobbered 70-20 by Oparanya but will deliver Luhya. Omar is expected to deliver Coast when he was distant 3rd for Mombasa governor

[Nefertiti]

If wishes were horses - all beggars would ride that grand glittery thoroughbred stallion. Complete with armored chariot. Reality is what you saw in parliament as they hanged Tharaka dwarf. 2/3 is no joke. This one-man formula is anti-Ruto wedge - that the BASIS - all the circus is to how Uhuru is trying as Ruto vehemently oppose him.

These are new signings. The old players are entrenched. Ruto start with near clean sweap of rift valley and pastoral kenya. That is already a huge head-start. He is fighting for his political life in GEMA and so far he still very popular on the ground.  He he support in all corners of kenya. Only Raila use to boast of that.

What next? The BBI crew - will they unite? Under who? Kalonzo and Raila don't see eye to eye. GEma and Raila don't jell. Gideon is hoping against hope. maDVD confused as ever

The small potatos like PK and Matiangi are hoping Uhuru will issues Executive Order No Last to make them president We haven't gone to jokers like Mutua, Makueni Prof, and Wa-riria.

Now here comes Ruto the clear favourite already with running mate.

How many freeloaders are hanging on Mobutu coattails? Khalwale, Omar Hassan, Muthama - the "think tank" is a collection of losers. Delusional Muthama claims to have chokehold on Kamba. Khalwale was clobbered 70-20 by Oparanya but will deliver Luhya. Omar is expected to deliver Coast when he was distant 3rd for Mombasa governor

[RV Pundit]

Ruto has been consistent - win win - Raila has been 50-50. Uhuru obviously tyring to drive gema to the edge. Gema have refused to be driven to the edge for 3yrs now. Why would they accept it now. Gema can see it from far. They know 10yrs ago...they were hunted all over Kenya like straw dogs..they are not ready for a repeat  - and for what benefit. They are in win-win despite the protestation.

And this is where ruto normally wins..he has a stand, he makes a decision and he stick with it. Moi was like that. Nobody like a Kalonzo or now a Raila windsock.

Nobody want to back somebody flowing with the wind. Ruto has to be careful with GEMA - it's gotta be tough love. You cannot afford to bend backwards like Kalonzo. You have to provide leadership. And this is win-win. GEMA are so fearful of return to 41-1 they will compromise if need be.

If wishes were horses - all beggars would ride that grand glittery thoroughbred stallion. Complete with armored chariot. Reality is what you saw in parliament as they hanged Tharaka dwarf. 2/3 is no joke. This one-man formula is anti-Ruto wedge - that the BASIS - all the circus is to how Uhuru is trying as Ruto vehemently oppose him.

[Nowayhaha]

If wishes were horses - all beggars would ride that grand glittery thoroughbred stallion. Complete with armored chariot. Reality is what you saw in parliament as they hanged Tharaka dwarf. 2/3 is no joke. This one-man formula is anti-Ruto wedge - that the BASIS - all the circus is to how Uhuru is trying as Ruto vehemently oppose him.

These are new signings. The old players are entrenched. Ruto start with near clean sweap of rift valley and pastoral kenya. That is already a huge head-start. He is fighting for his political life in GEMA and so far he still very popular on the ground.  He he support in all corners of kenya. Only Raila use to boast of that.

What next? The BBI crew - will they unite? Under who? Kalonzo and Raila don't see eye to eye. GEma and Raila don't jell. Gideon is hoping against hope. maDVD confused as ever

The small potatos like PK and Matiangi are hoping Uhuru will issues Executive Order No Last to make them president We haven't gone to jokers like Mutua, Makueni Prof, and Wa-riria.

Now here comes Ruto the clear favourite already with running mate.

How many freeloaders are hanging on Mobutu coattails? Khalwale, Omar Hassan, Muthama - the "think tank" is a collection of losers. Delusional Muthama claims to have chokehold on Kamba. Khalwale was clobbered 70-20 by Oparanya but will deliver Luhya. Omar is expected to deliver Coast when he was distant 3rd for Mombasa governor

Roby , what you fail to point out that the following factors made the senators vote the way they did .
First is the nominated senators from Jubilee  were threatened to be thrown out of parliament if they went against Murathe /Njee Muturi/ wishes 
Jubilee elected senators were threatened to be de-whipped from senate committees where they earn perks and allowances essentially their money makers if you also  add favors and corrupt money .
ODM senators want to destroy Jubilee and if they get an opportunity they are ready to utilize it .


Having said that , there is a big difference between party politics , senate politics and national politics . Party and senate politics is not necessarily a reflection of national politics , 90% of the elected senators wont make it back to senate. Majority of the senators didnt make it to senate by virtue of being Kingpins who can sway their regions to vote one way or the other . They made it by belonging to the right party at the right time . In 2013 it was either TNA/URP and in 2017 it was Jubilee , in 2022 it will a new formation albeit even if using the same name as Jubilee.
You need to go back to 2002 and 2013 transition elections and you will realise its not worth it to rely on elected MPS/officials .

[Nowayhaha]

Ruto’s running mate headache as allies maintain a low profile
https://www.nation.co.ke/kenya/news/politics/ruto-ready-for-poll-but-where-is-mate-1921470

DP Ruto was initially said to be keen on a running mate from the Mount Kenya region or Western, but his targets have since decamped, lost national influence or fallen out of favour.

Analysts, however, think Mr Kiunjuri would not be of much help to the DP if President Kenyatta—who has all but confirmed he might renege on his promise to back the DP for the top job in 2022—stamps his authority.

Political analyst Herman Manyora says the DP remains in a state of quagmire as political bigwigs are allied to President Kenyatta and Mr Odinga’s Handshake team.

“Any association with Ruto comes at a high cost. The biggest challenge he has is the pariah status he’s being pushed into. The system is making it very difficult for people to want to work with him,” Prof Manyora says.

He argues that the DP is also in a dilemma as the vote-rich Mount Kenya region is also making demands for the running mate position “despite their vote not being guaranteed because of the President Kenyatta factor.”

President Moi facor was detrimental to Uhuru in 2002 , President Kibaki factor was detrimental to Mudavadi in 2013 .
The so called fall out between Uhuru and Ruto has been a blessing in disguise for Ruto - If it wasnt it for that all the illls caused by Uhuru would be blamed on him .
Secondly these so called Political Analysts are hired mercenaries disguising as intellectuals  . Who doesnt know Manyora has been bidding for Raila since 2007  albeit with Nil success .

Mobutu backed Uhuru in 2002 - Raila in 2007 - flopped both times. Noone has any magic pill circumstances and strategy matter more. 60 years Uhuru is not senile like Moi and Kibaki. Funny you raise "hiring" of mercenaries - which is Mobutu's primary modus operandi. If Mobutu was genuinely popular he wouldn't need to pay off folks to back him. It is why they vaporize at his hour of need as we saw in parliament.

In 2002 , Moi was still the kingpin of RV politics in 2007 Ruto backed Kalonzo only for RV who had a grudge with Kibaki to force him to back Raila . You need to read Railas book which attributed to all his failures to Ruto( Moi bypassing him in 2002  , Ruto backing Kalonzo in 2007  and 2013 loss to Uhuru )

Moi and Kibaki in their old age were sober and steadfast , they could administer and govern the country. Infact if it wasn't for the term limits they could have contiued as presidents , as for Uhuru its a different ball game all together , In is first term Ruto was the one running the show at least we saw tangible results . In his second term  Uhuru has delegated everything to Matiangi and Raila , the other day you heard Karua saying Raila articulated Government /State policy louder and better than Uhuru .
Secondly whenever you see Uhuru or listed to him its as if he cant wait for his term to finish so that he can go and enjoy his life . He is tired of everything . No who is senile ?
Politicians will always be politicians they were just following Ruto for the simple fact they know he will be winning in 2022 and Ruto was indeed controlling Jubilee party machinery before the coup orchestrated by murathe /Njee Muturi , If Ruto was paying them as you claim they wouldn't be voting as whipped to safeguard their perks and allowances .as 2022 approaches for a fact they flow back into Rutos corner  however it will be a little bit too late as per history 90% of them wont make it back to parliament