Author Topic: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa  (Read 2516 times)

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Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« on: June 22, 2020, 06:27:52 PM »
.... How do you stop Ruto he has a good 20years ahead he can run for pork those are 4 times, all people blocking him now will be dead if he runs at 74,murathe,wanjohi,baba,mudavadi kalonzo, atwolis Tujus etc... He has time so much time, hustler can easily destroy whatever these fools have done. Africans have very poor judgment no wonder bazungu ruled Us. Unless you kill Ruto he will be pork uninterrupted. Kweli Mbele iko sawa.

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2020, 06:47:54 PM »
Precisely. Ruto just about got started. But seriously it would be nice to have Ruto now. His energy is phenomenal. I don't want another Kibaki. Kibaki was very brilliant. Possibly the most brilliant we will get a leader but he became a president when he was so old..he was on diapers.

If Kibaki had become president in 1989 after 10yrs of Moi -  Kenya would be different country.

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2020, 06:51:11 PM »
Ruto wont last 15 more years. He has his dad genes and he is already falling apart kama mboga

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2020, 06:57:56 PM »
His father died at 78yrs. He has lost a brother to cancer. But death is very hard to predict. What I can say the last few months has had me scared about my own vulnerability. I see death just lurking in the corner. Damn. I use to imagine I would live until 100yrs.

Now all I want is to invest in life insurance.

Ruto wont last 15 more years. He has his dad genes and he is already falling apart kama mboga

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2020, 07:00:04 PM »
His father died at 78yrs. He has lost a brother to cancer. But death is very hard to predict. What I can say the last few months has had me scared about my own vulnerability. I see death just lurking in the corner. Damn. I use to imagine I would live until 100yrs.

Now all I want is to invest in life insurance.

Ruto wont last 15 more years. He has his dad genes and he is already falling apart kama mboga

His dad must have married old then

I will be suprised if i live up to 65. My dad and mum family live up to late 80s.

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2020, 07:01:27 PM »
I think he had three wives. The little I know. It appears Ruto mother is Nandi. He migrated from Kericho to Uasin Gishu probably with Kipsigis woman and later took a local nandi woman.
His dad must have married old then

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2020, 07:03:12 PM »
DP William Ruto’s father Daniel Samoei Kipruto araap Cheruiyot was born in 1914 in Kericho, to Mzee Cheruiyot araap Chumba who later moved to Ziwa in Nandi in the late 1960s. They were members of the Kapkomoseek clan – animal totem Kibiegen (baboon). The Kapkomoseek Clan in Nandi is known as Kapsato which split from the larger family when they moved to Nandi in the early 1800s. DPs grandfather was named Cheruiyot araap Chumba who was the son of Maruri araap Cheruto, the last born son of Cheruto araap Maina who was one of the earliest headmen of the Kipsigis appointed in 1905 and serving until his death in 1911. DPs grandmother was named Chebukwo Obot Temoet a daughter of the Kipkenda clan.  Cheruto araap Maina was the son of Maina araap Chibweri who was the son of Chibweri the brother of Wareko. Wareko was the grandfather of Sato (hence Kapsato of Nandi).
Cheruto araap Maina was a gazetted headman of Location 1 (Kiptere) in Kericho appointed by Kericho DC Hugh B. Partington in 1905. He was appointed because of his outstanding leadership of troops of battle and had become enormously wealthy by the standards of his day. He was appointed to work under Orkoiyot Kipchomber araap Koilegen who was appointed Paramount Chief of the Kipsigis in 1905. He in fact accompanied Koilegen to Mombasa in 1906 for the King’s birthday celebrations and he can be seen on the famous photo where Koilegen is turbaned. 
Cheruto was a man of great influence and so as the headman, he was tasked to collect hut and poll tax among the Kipsigis under his jurisdiction. One day in November 1911, Cheruto araap Maina was killed when he went to collect taxes from one of the sons of the Kisii woman who had been under the care of his father Maina araap Chibweri. Kapmanaichi as the family would be known, had a belligerent son who refused to pay taxes. Cheruto araap Maina got one of his bulls and had it driven to market and sold for the tax. The angry young man came to the place where Cheruto was drinking that evening and speared him to death from behind. So died a great chief of the Kipsigis people. Partington mentioned Cheruto araap Maina’s death in his diaries and the same is confirmed by the Kericho District Political Record of 1911 available at the Kenya National Archives. The strange thing about the death was that it happened to members of the same clan whereas if he had been killed by an outsider, blood money would have to be paid. There was no blood money here. The following year 1912, a son was born to Kipkurui araap Maina and to remember his brother, he named the boy Kipkilel araap Kirui. In due course, Kipkilel was baptized into the Catholic church at Kipchimchim in July 1950 and became firm friends with his cousin Daniel araap Cheruiyot the son of his uncle Cheruiyot araap Chumba the son of Maruri araap Cheruto the son of Cheruto araap Maina. Simeon’s father Kipkurui araap Maina was the younger brother of Cheruto araap Maina and the older brother of Kenduywo araap Maina. Their mother was named Nyariki, the first wife of Maina araap Chibweri. They had a sister named Taptechmet was married to Kipchomber araap Koilegen and was the mother of Kiboin araap Sitonik (father of the late Eli Sigilai and others).
*Moving to Nandi*
When Simeon moved to Nandi in 1964 and settled at Kipsiorori village in Kaboi location of Kaptumo division, Daniel followed him there staying with him briefly as he searched for land in Nandi. He stayed at his farm in Kipsiorori village in Kaptumo shortly before moving to Kamagut near Eldoret where he purchased land from the departing Europeans. Before leaving Kericho, Daniel was married Tamunai and had a son named Paul Labose. When he moved to Kamagut, he married Sarah and William Ruto was born to this union in 1966. William was his fourth child. Seeing that his son had settled in Nandi, Cheruiyot araap Chumba also moved to Uasin Ngishu in 1968, going all the way to Ziwa where he purchased some land.  He lived there until his death in 1976. Araap Chumba’s older brother Labose remained in Kericho as did his younger brother named Mbega, who is the father of Job Chirchir (formerly a director at NTSA) and a close ally of DP Ruto. Mzee Cheruiyot araap Chumba had several children among them Maria Keter, Grace Marindich, Nelly Mwei, and the late Joshua ‘Kiptamet’ araap Cheruiyot, Daniel Samoei araap Cheruiyot (DPs father)) and the last born son Philip araap Cheruiyot who lives in Ziwa. DPs uncle Joshua ‘Kiptamet’ Cheruiyot moved to Chepkumia where he bought land, married a Nandi woman of Kapsegoi family and joined the African Israel Church Nineveh (hence the nickname ‘Kiptamet’ for his turbans). You have seen that some of DP Ruto’s biggest fans are members of that African Israel Church Nineveh and it is not by default. He has relatives there. DP Ruto’s eldest brother is Paul Labose from his older mother Tamunia. Next are Susan and Elizabeth are from his mother Sarah. DP comes in fourth. After him are late Kiprop, Triza, David and the late Harrison Ruto.  From his father’s third wife Leah are Tecla, Samuel, Janet, Philemon, Jonah, Joel. Mzee Daniel Samoei araap Cheruiyot died on March 29, 2008 and was laid to rest at Kamagut.

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2020, 07:05:33 PM »

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2020, 07:22:19 PM »
The name Samoei from what I heard was nickname given to his father - who had a large herd of cattle - and Ruto decide to use it - I guess for conjure images of Nandi great laibon  Samoei - the brother of Koilegen Kipchomber who came to kipsigis to become the chief Laibon.

Note: Kalenjin (i think maybe luos & somalis also) keep very long genealogical records. I can trace our family tree to the nearly 17th century.

This is done mostly by the naming system - after ancestors. Ancestors (relatives who have died) are randomly called until a child 'accepts' - but those names are not official names - only known within clan or family. You could end up with a very old name. If you're stubborn - they can go to mother sides - and start calling their dead ancestors.

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2020, 07:29:37 PM »
Uhuru is mere 4 years older and might be PM for another 10 years and still block Mobutu. Mobutu has inherited Raila place as Enemy of State. There will be new heroes- at current haemorrhage rate he will be another Kaloozer with Kales or Nandis. Look at his gray hairs - he has clocked 10 years since March 2018.
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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2020, 07:35:28 PM »
What will Mobutu and Kuria tell Kikuyu now after inciting that they have been shortchanged in development and appointments? They might be chased by folks if they go badmouthing Uhuru in Central.
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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2020, 07:47:58 PM »
Ruto is greatest propagandist ever to grace kenya after Tom Mboya. Easy Breezy. This is Moi redux. Just tell them dynasties are benefitting while average Kikuyus is suffering. It's obvious no development will get done. Just empty promises. You cannot build a road under COVID. NO MONEY.

What will happen - Uhuru will promise to do so much in 1yr - and he will do nothing :) There is simply no magic that gov will use to generate taxes when everyone is staying at home - COVID-19 will be here until 2021.

So Uhuru can only give big kahuna jobs....so Rich v Poor will play out...

He is still smiling...because of IMF and WB 200B..but there is no more going there...without them coming to run the country. They will place kenya under receivership (bail out) soon like Moi time.

What will Mobutu and Kuria tell Kikuyu now after inciting that they have been shortchanged in development and appointments? They might be chased by folks if they go badmouthing Uhuru in Central.

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2020, 09:09:01 PM »
Precisely. Ruto just about got started. But seriously it would be nice to have Ruto now. His energy is phenomenal. I don't want another Kibaki. Kibaki was very brilliant. Possibly the most brilliant we will get a leader but he became a president when he was so old..he was on diapers.

If Kibaki had become president in 1989 after 10yrs of Moi -  Kenya would be different country.
Of course We all want Ruto now. Am just saying i wonder if these Urogi can see this. It wouldn't get to 74 obviously Ruto has to make sure he gets it right now. 2022 alot will have changed what we talking now will be opposite raira will have been shortchanged and leading serious opposition to government, wanjohi made his final kick early and now is worn out he has been chasing Rutos rabbits and now Ruto has all energy left.

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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2020, 11:30:25 PM »
So why are you predicting the death of other political nemesis? Uhuru is 59, MVD 60, Jakom is only 74. Guy could live to be like Moi or even better Sir Charlesof Kabeteshire.

His father died at 78yrs. He has lost a brother to cancer. But death is very hard to predict. What I can say the last few months has had me scared about my own vulnerability. I see death just lurking in the corner. Damn. I use to imagine I would live until 100yrs.

Now all I want is to invest in life insurance.


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Re: Does Wanjohi know. Ruto is only 54yrs?Mbele iko sawa
« Reply #14 on: June 22, 2020, 11:52:45 PM »
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