Ruto to support Mudavadi 2022

[Pajero]

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From the grape vine

[RV Pundit]

2yrs before the whistle is blown.

[Kadudu]

 
Mudavadi can then bury his political ambitions.
Imagine Ruto would make such a move. His people would drop him like a hot potato. Akina Murkomen, Sudi and company have invested a lot in this man. They are waiting for 2022 to start recouping their profit from the investments. Will never happen.

[Nefertiti]

Mudavadi can then bury his political ambitions.
Imagine Ruto would make such a move. His people would drop him like a hot potato. Akina Murkomen, Sudi and company have invested a lot in this man. They are waiting for 2022 to start recouping their profit from the investments. Will never happen.

These goons are custodians of Mobutu's loot and will "keep change" like he did in YK92. As the hyenas smell defeat expect a dramatic fallout - as these Bursars siphon the safe.

[Wa Njambi]

Pajero...what are smoking now...you need to share. No! We finished our plan for 2022 a while back.  while there may be some realignment happening, and Moses might be some where in the plan, Ruto's destiny is sealed...He is you man our man for the big HNI ofc. And there will be no power sharing.

From the grape vine

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Mudavadi can then bury his political ambitions.
Imagine Ruto would make such a move. His people would drop him like a hot potato. Akina Murkomen, Sudi and company have invested a lot in this man. They are waiting for 2022 to start recouping their profit from the investments. Will never happen.

These goons are custodians of Mobutu's loot and will "keep change" like he did in YK92. As the hyenas smell defeat expect a dramatic fallout - as these Bursars siphon the safe.

While you are fixated on Ruto's small change, Wanjohi will literally own you and your kids should he succeed in implementing BBI and get the executive PM he craves. Kenya will cease to be an independent soveriegn nation and become a colony of Cinku and Kenyattas will be their governors. That is the bigger danger, Baba is facilitating all of this nonsense thinking he can somehow renege on any agreement, but Wanjohi's goons have levers of power - military, police, courts, internal security, secret service agencies, etc after the elections if Raila does anything they have control of the security services and he will be a lame duck president. Don't play small game, angalia mbele. Ruto is smart, he will support Mudavadi or even Raila to scuttle Wanjohis delusions of grandeur, no point in going gung ho at this point. If he becomes VP second time, he will be in an even stronger position. He is young and has time on his side. I won't count on Luhyas though, you would probably be scared if they gave you the presidency on silver platter and invite Wanjohi back 

[Nefertiti]

Arcadian my conviction is Mobutu is the worst of the lot. Hence my stand. My man is Raila - and he is not an idiot. Mobutu crowned Uhuru not Raila so save the crocodile tears.

[Arcadian_Dreamer]

Arcadian my conviction is Mobutu is the worst of the lot. Hence my stand. My man is Raila - and he is not an idiot. Mobutu crowned Uhuru not Raila so save the crocodile tears.

Drop the Mobutu moniker, it is forced, it won't stick like Wanjohi because it is not based on reality.

You have to explain how is the worst of the lot, I gave my reasons. I don't want to live in a Chinese colony where life is squeezed out of every Kenyan. Chinese and Kenyatta family are looting Kenya dry, it is untenable.

If you really support Raila then Ruto should not be your enemy, Wanjohi wants to retain executive power through extralegal means at the expense of Rao.

[RV Pundit]

Beside nobody really can relate to Mobutu in Kenya. Kabuga was better...at least it could conjure image of warlord!

But Robina beef with Ruto is long one - probably personal.

Anyway, I am not convinced that Wanjohi will go with an executive PM thing. That would require renaming the current president into Prime Minister - a constitutional overhaul - not just patchwork.If we get a weak PM - then Wanjohi having enjoyed executive power as he does know - cannot go for that.

If Wanjohi is entertaining ideas  - then it would be to influence his succession for the likes of Gideon Moi and a GEMA stooge of his own. Who that stooge will be?  I don't know but ultimately we might see Stooge-Gideon-Kalonzo arrangement.

I don't think GEMA elite or laity will trust Raila Odinga anytime soon.

Now that Ruto has committed the ultimate sin of connecting with GEMA laity - he must be fought by GEMA elite - so they can get back their brokerage job - otherwise, they are being rendered jobless if they cannot talk on behalf of their own people.

So Ruto and Uhuru have crossed the river rubicon - and for now Ruto has to go on with revolution in GEMA - and see if it will succeed or fail. He needs leader to rally the troops. Mwangi Kiunjuri has gone underground - maybe time to prop Kindiki Kithures.

Drop the Mobutu moniker, it is forced, it won't stick like Wanjohi because it is not based on reality.

You have to explain how is the worst of the lot, I gave my reasons. I don't want to live in a Chinese colony where life is squeezed out of every Kenyan. Chinese and Kenyatta family are looting Kenya dry, it is untenable.

If you really support Raila then Ruto should not be your enemy, Wanjohi wants to retain executive power through extralegal means at the expense of Rao.

[Kadudu]

Beside nobody really can relate to Mobutu in Kenya. Kabuga was better...at least it could conjure image of warlord!

But Robina beef with Ruto is long one - probably personal.

Anyway, I am not convinced that Wanjohi will go with an executive PM thing. That would require renaming the current president into Prime Minister - a constitutional overhaul - not just patchwork.If we get a weak PM - then Wanjohi having enjoyed executive power as he does know - cannot go for that.

If Wanjohi is entertaining ideas  - then it would be to influence his succession for the likes of Gideon Moi and a GEMA stooge of his own. Who that stooge will be?  I don't know but ultimately we might see Stooge-Gideon-Kalonzo arrangement.

I don't think GEMA elite or laity will trust Raila Odinga anytime soon.

Now that Ruto has committed the ultimate sin of connecting with GEMA laity - he must be fought by GEMA elite - so they can get back their brokerage job - otherwise, they are being rendered jobless if they cannot talk on behalf of their own people.

So Ruto and Uhuru have crossed the river rubicon - and for now Ruto has to go on with revolution in GEMA - and see if it will succeed or fail. He needs leader to rally the troops. Mwangi Kiunjuri has gone underground - maybe time to prop Kindiki Kithures.

That guy is such a gentleman, he makes Mudavadi look like a Sonko. Expect no revolution from this man.
As of Kiunjuri, the man does not have the economic independence to lead a revolution in Kikuyuland. Leave GEMA out of the game as a rebellion led by Kiunjuri would not automatically mean Merus and Embus will be in the boat.

[RV Pundit]

The rebellion is already on - what is needed is just a leader - even Ndindi or Kuria or anyone can lead this revolution - it's GEMA wide- they are very angry with Wanjohi. Don't underestimate Kiunjuri.

That guy is such a gentleman, he makes Mudavadi look like a Sonko. Expect no revolution from this man.
As of Kiunjuri, the man does not have the economic independence to lead a revolution in Kikuyuland. Leave GEMA out of the game as a rebellion led by Kiunjuri would not automatically mean Merus and Embus will be in the boat.

[Nefertiti]

I see you have come down to earth - what we been telling you for 2 years - as you spin they are playing Raila sijui legacy Naturally you continue the fat naked straw that Ruto has GEMA - that another of your pipedream. How many have you seen willing to hang for Ruto? - only dimwit Waititu and maybe Gachagua. The rest are toeing the line like clockwork - including PK - who of course is dying to be Uhuru stooge

Options
1. BBI 2 - Exec PM (Uhuru) + ceremonial PORK (Raila)
2. BBI 1 - PORK (Raila) + VP (Gideon) + PM (Uhuru stooge)
3. status quo - PORK (Raila) + DPORK (Uhuru stooge)

... vs Ruto + Mdvd + Karua

Your naked lies about "Ruto has the ground" - is based on option 2 or 3. Considering how Ruto "numbers" are working out who can really entertain you.

Beside nobody really can relate to Mobutu in Kenya. Kabuga was better...at least it could conjure image of warlord!

But Robina beef with Ruto is long one - probably personal.

Anyway, I am not convinced that Wanjohi will go with an executive PM thing. That would require renaming the current president into Prime Minister - a constitutional overhaul - not just patchwork.If we get a weak PM - then Wanjohi having enjoyed executive power as he does know - cannot go for that.

If Wanjohi is entertaining ideas  - then it would be to influence his succession for the likes of Gideon Moi and a GEMA stooge of his own. Who that stooge will be?  I don't know but ultimately we might see Stooge-Gideon-Kalonzo arrangement.

I don't think GEMA elite or laity will trust Raila Odinga anytime soon.

Now that Ruto has committed the ultimate sin of connecting with GEMA laity - he must be fought by GEMA elite - so they can get back their brokerage job - otherwise, they are being rendered jobless if they cannot talk on behalf of their own people.

So Ruto and Uhuru have crossed the river rubicon - and for now Ruto has to go on with revolution in GEMA - and see if it will succeed or fail. He needs leader to rally the troops. Mwangi Kiunjuri has gone underground - maybe time to prop Kindiki Kithures.

[Pajero]

My friend pundito,let Mobutu Ruto plan his journey without gema/kikuyus.He should not factor them in any of his game plans.Save this,you will thank me later.

[Nefertiti]

Arcadian my conviction is Mobutu is the worst of the lot. Hence my stand. My man is Raila - and he is not an idiot. Mobutu crowned Uhuru not Raila so save the crocodile tears.

Drop the Mobutu moniker, it is forced, it won't stick like Wanjohi because it is not based on reality.

You have to explain how is the worst of the lot, I gave my reasons. I don't want to live in a Chinese colony where life is squeezed out of every Kenyan. Chinese and Kenyatta family are looting Kenya dry, it is untenable.

If you really support Raila then Ruto should not be your enemy, Wanjohi wants to retain executive power through extralegal means at the expense of Rao.

Well if it not effective why worry? The graft demon was exorcised by St Kamanda and hanged on Ruto - who is the Kenyan political pig. Your hero is already baptized Mobutu - which is Arap Mwizi in local slang.

Ati I should back Mobutu cause I support Raila - that bizarre logic - how about I actually back Raila himself? I been doing that for 5+ years

[Nefertiti]

My friend pundito,let Mobutu Ruto plan his journey without gema/kikuyus.He should not factor them in any of his game plans.Save this,you will thank me later.

Pundit is a spin doctor - who believes his own lies.

[RV Pundit]

Not another oil-water don't mix. That was your retort btw 2008-2013. Water and oil did mix. And they actually gelled. Ruto is intend on collecting his promissory note from GEMA and GEMA are intend on paying it. So why not give them a chance.

My friend pundito,let Mobutu Ruto plan his journey without gema/kikuyus.He should not factor them in any of his game plans.Save this,you will thank me later.

[RV Pundit]

Don't waste time micro-analyzing me - I am well known in these streets - I have been on rcb,nipates for 20yrs - using the same moniker. I never disappear like most of you.

Pundit is a spin doctor - who believes his own lies.

[RV Pundit]

You haven't been listening keenly Robina. We will see an emergence of new GEMA elite - opposition against "Deep State" is so deep - we are going to see another Kalenjin like a revolution - of 2007 - in 2022 - where new GEMA leadership and elite will emerge. There is vicious fight - btw losers of 2017 trying to comeback  - and GEMA elected leadership trying to assert themselves. Uhuru has chosen the wrong allies - those rejected in 2017 like Kamandas - and he is becoming unpopular.

Wait for next opinion poll - and Ruto would be around 50% of all decided voters.

I see you have come down to earth - what we been telling you for 2 years - as you spin they are playing Raila sijui legacy Naturally you continue the fat naked straw that Ruto has GEMA - that another of your pipedream. How many have you seen willing to hang for Ruto? - only dimwit Waititu and maybe Gachagua. The rest are toeing the line like clockwork - including PK - who of course is dying to be Uhuru stooge

Options
1. BBI 2 - Exec PM (Uhuru) + ceremonial PORK (Raila)
2. BBI 1 - PORK (Raila) + VP (Gideon) + PM (Uhuru stooge)
3. status quo - PORK (Raila) + DPORK (Uhuru stooge)

... vs Ruto + Mdvd + Karua

Your naked lies about "Ruto has the ground" - is based on option 2 or 3. Considering how Ruto "numbers" are working out who can really entertain you.

Beside nobody really can relate to Mobutu in Kenya. Kabuga was better...at least it could conjure image of warlord!

But Robina beef with Ruto is long one - probably personal.

Anyway, I am not convinced that Wanjohi will go with an executive PM thing. That would require renaming the current president into Prime Minister - a constitutional overhaul - not just patchwork.If we get a weak PM - then Wanjohi having enjoyed executive power as he does know - cannot go for that.

If Wanjohi is entertaining ideas  - then it would be to influence his succession for the likes of Gideon Moi and a GEMA stooge of his own. Who that stooge will be?  I don't know but ultimately we might see Stooge-Gideon-Kalonzo arrangement.

I don't think GEMA elite or laity will trust Raila Odinga anytime soon.

Now that Ruto has committed the ultimate sin of connecting with GEMA laity - he must be fought by GEMA elite - so they can get back their brokerage job - otherwise, they are being rendered jobless if they cannot talk on behalf of their own people.

So Ruto and Uhuru have crossed the river rubicon - and for now Ruto has to go on with revolution in GEMA - and see if it will succeed or fail. He needs leader to rally the troops. Mwangi Kiunjuri has gone underground - maybe time to prop Kindiki Kithures.

[Nefertiti]

What is your EVIDENCE of this "revolution"? GEMA grievance with Uhuru is what exactly - betraying a Kalenjin alien

Spin has a limit my fren. Like Uhurutopia and Ruto numbers crashed 2 weeks ago after it became too obvious. Few days earlier Ruto called Karen presser and claim they discuss GoK with Uhuru daily - they were merely keeping social distance Once the Jubilee fiction imploded you promptly invented "ground" - the proof of course is in future election or opinion - meantime we must take your word. Cause you were at rcb for years.

Here you need evidence to carry the day - not grapevine from FB - well even there it don't hold up no more.

You haven't been listening keenly Robina. We will see an emergence of new GEMA elite - opposition against "Deep State" is so deep - we are going to see another Kalenjin like a revolution - of 2007 - in 2022 - where new GEMA leadership and elite will emerge. There is vicious fight - btw losers of 2017 trying to comeback  - and GEMA elected leadership trying to assert themselves. Uhuru has chosen the wrong allies - those rejected in 2017 like Kamandas - and he is becoming unpopular.

Wait for next opinion poll - and Ruto would be around 50% of all decided voters.

I see you have come down to earth - what we been telling you for 2 years - as you spin they are playing Raila sijui legacy Naturally you continue the fat naked straw that Ruto has GEMA - that another of your pipedream. How many have you seen willing to hang for Ruto? - only dimwit Waititu and maybe Gachagua. The rest are toeing the line like clockwork - including PK - who of course is dying to be Uhuru stooge

Options
1. BBI 2 - Exec PM (Uhuru) + ceremonial PORK (Raila)
2. BBI 1 - PORK (Raila) + VP (Gideon) + PM (Uhuru stooge)
3. status quo - PORK (Raila) + DPORK (Uhuru stooge)

... vs Ruto + Mdvd + Karua

Your naked lies about "Ruto has the ground" - is based on option 2 or 3. Considering how Ruto "numbers" are working out who can really entertain you.

Beside nobody really can relate to Mobutu in Kenya. Kabuga was better...at least it could conjure image of warlord!

But Robina beef with Ruto is long one - probably personal.

Anyway, I am not convinced that Wanjohi will go with an executive PM thing. That would require renaming the current president into Prime Minister - a constitutional overhaul - not just patchwork.If we get a weak PM - then Wanjohi having enjoyed executive power as he does know - cannot go for that.

If Wanjohi is entertaining ideas  - then it would be to influence his succession for the likes of Gideon Moi and a GEMA stooge of his own. Who that stooge will be?  I don't know but ultimately we might see Stooge-Gideon-Kalonzo arrangement.

I don't think GEMA elite or laity will trust Raila Odinga anytime soon.

Now that Ruto has committed the ultimate sin of connecting with GEMA laity - he must be fought by GEMA elite - so they can get back their brokerage job - otherwise, they are being rendered jobless if they cannot talk on behalf of their own people.

So Ruto and Uhuru have crossed the river rubicon - and for now Ruto has to go on with revolution in GEMA - and see if it will succeed or fail. He needs leader to rally the troops. Mwangi Kiunjuri has gone underground - maybe time to prop Kindiki Kithures.