ODM to also join Jubilee-KANU-Wiper

[RV Pundit]

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Chungwa House Update.

RESOLUTIONS;

1. ODM party to sign a post-poll deal with Jubilee party and KANU ahead of 2022 general election.

2. Hon John Mbadi to be made National Assembly Majority Leader

3. Two ODM Legislators and 2 Individuals( Seconded by the party ) to be appointed as Cabinet Secretaries and Principal Secretaries respectively in the Upcoming Cabinet reshuffle.

4. ODM participation in Kiambu By-Elections

[Nefertiti]

Kiambu by-elections? Am not aware of this. Please update.

[Nefertiti]

Basically Trojan 2 has succeeded. Ruto hard job is herding dicey and fickle sheep into new party. Let see if class trounces tribalism.

[Kadudu]

I doubt if Duale will be replaced. They are holding him by the balls. He will do anything to save his seat. Uhuru has Duale exactly where he wants him. Have you heard any critical word from Duale about Uhuru? The man will not feed the hand that feeds him.

Chungwa House Update.

RESOLUTIONS;

1. ODM party to sign a post-poll deal with Jubilee party and KANU ahead of 2022 general election.

2. Hon John Mbadi to be made National Assembly Majority Leader

3. Two ODM Legislators and 2 Individuals( Seconded by the party ) to be appointed as Cabinet Secretaries and Principal Secretaries respectively in the Upcoming Cabinet reshuffle.

4. ODM participation in Kiambu By-Elections

[gout]

The Kahawa Wendani MCA seat left vacant by death of Cyro. Mama Ngina won't like Sukari city construction under ODM in a uncertain 2022 atmosphere.

Kiambu by-elections? Am not aware of this. Please update.

[patel]

It's time for a government of national unity. Now that uhuru has asserted himself for once he should be allowed to reconstitute the government that represents the face of kenya. Uhuru needs all the help he can get to get the country out of the ditch.

[RV Pundit]

When gov is divided so much - haina utamu - so Ruto should move to the opposition btw now and 2022 - and wait for 2022. Let see how Uhuru will sell Raila and KANU in GEMA.

[Pajero]

Uhuru will not be selling Raila or Gideon to GEMA.He just uses them to netralize Ruto.GEMA will have one of their own on the ballot.We are back to factory settings.

[RV Pundit]

That would be stupid - because taking on Raila and Ruto is next to moronic.

Uhuru will not be selling Raila or Gideon to GEMA.He just uses them to netralize Ruto.GEMA will have one of their own on the ballot.We are back to factory settings.

[Nefertiti]

Any link for this news? Tangatanga lies are out of control

Chungwa House Update.

RESOLUTIONS;

1. ODM party to sign a post-poll deal with Jubilee party and KANU ahead of 2022 general election.

2. Hon John Mbadi to be made National Assembly Majority Leader

3. Two ODM Legislators and 2 Individuals( Seconded by the party ) to be appointed as Cabinet Secretaries and Principal Secretaries respectively in the Upcoming Cabinet reshuffle.

4. ODM participation in Kiambu By-Elections

[Nefertiti]

More likely Raila will go for PORK with Uhuru-picked DP. Kalonzo, Mdvd, Gideon will be line up as non-existent PM and DPMs.

Kahawa Wendani I expect Jubilee to run with ODM backing.

[Garliv]

If 2022 is between Raila vs Ruto then be guaranteed Hustler will beat RAO like a drum. He will bury him; totally.

Only option for Uhuru/Raila gameplan is amend constitution. Introduce such layers as PM and DPM. Then they will neutralize Hustler between now and in 2022. The current set up favours Ruto by far.

More likely Raila will go for PORK with Uhuru-picked DP. Kalonzo, Mdvd, Gideon will be line up as non-existent PM and DPMs.

Kahawa Wendani I expect Jubilee to run with ODM backing.

[Nefertiti]

The very first post on this thread is a LIE by Tangatanga about ODM demands. As you can see Ruto has imaginary control of Jubilee, imaginary numbers in Senate, imaginary following on the ground in Central and elsewhere. GEMA will go where Uhuru tells them. Ruto is a Kalenjin alien nosing in GEMA business.

Here's Kimemia spelling it out for you:

Mt Kenya governors back Tangatanga purge from Jubilee

If 2022 is between Raila vs Ruto then be guaranteed Hustler will beat RAO like a drum. He will bury him; totally.

Only option for Uhuru/Raila gameplan is amend constitution. Introduce such layers as PM and DPM. Then they will neutralize Hustler between now and in 2022. The current set up favours Ruto by far.

[Garliv]

We shall see. And when you analyse numbers at the Senate you realize Uhuru don't have/didn't have numbers. It's a question of brute force. So many Senators have been on media and social media saying they never attended any meeting. And it is verifiable that some of those listed as present were actually not there. Uhuru is a dangerous drunkard with state power; that is all giving him "success.."

NB: In addition Uhuru is doing whatever he's doing to provoke Ruto. So that if Ruto were to oppose anything then their claim of him (Ruto) undermining the president get traction.
And just remember Ruto was not doing anything different from what he was doing during their First term in office. He was still going round the country and preaching Jubilee gospel. But in the second term and after HANDSHAKE then Ruto was said to be "TangaTangaring" all over. If Uhuru was not intent on remaining in power, then the claim of Ruto undermining him would not arise. But now that he has intentions and schemes to remain in power then Ruto becomes a burden. That's what is cooking here...

The very first post on this thread is a LIE by Tangatanga about ODM demands. As you can see Ruto has imaginary control of Jubilee, imaginary numbers in Senate, imaginary following on the ground in Central and elsewhere. GEMA will go where Uhuru tells them. Ruto is a Kalenjin alien nosing in GEMA business.

Here's Kimemia spelling it out for you:

Mt Kenya governors back Tangatanga purge from Jubilee

If 2022 is between Raila vs Ruto then be guaranteed Hustler will beat RAO like a drum. He will bury him; totally.

Only option for Uhuru/Raila gameplan is amend constitution. Introduce such layers as PM and DPM. Then they will neutralize Hustler between now and in 2022. The current set up favours Ruto by far.

[Nefertiti]

Ruto broke the Cardinal Law of Power: never outshine the master. Worse he attempted to usurp Uhuru’s base through mlolongo, harambees and endless trips. Both are unforgivable sins. He was tolerated and made to feel anointed in Jubilee 1.0 only for the votes.

BBI is a flop so Uhuru is going home. He would not get any deal if Ruto controlled the ground - power concedes nothing. This is the correct move in GEMA interest. Ruto attempted to yoke GEMA as Raila has done the Luhya- he deserves all the bakoras he is getting. I told Pundit 2 years ago: Ruto will be hammered until he needs GEMA. It came to pass.

Please list the Senate PG attendants or absconders we debate. We see if they are 16/22 as Tangatanga claims. It is very easy to confirm online any denials and recants from both sides. Back Ruto numbers with verifiable facts.

We shall see. And when you analyse numbers at the Senate you realize Uhuru don't have/didn't have numbers. It's a question of brute force. So many Senators have been on media and social media saying they never attended any meeting. And it is verifiable that some of those listed as present were actually not there. Uhuru is a dangerous drunkard with state power; that is all giving him "success.."

NB: In addition Uhuru is doing whatever he's doing to provoke Ruto. So that if Ruto were to oppose anything then their claim of him (Ruto) undermining the president get traction.
And just remember Ruto was not doing anything different from what he was doing during their First term in office. He was still going round the country and preaching Jubilee gospel. But in the second term and after HANDSHAKE then Ruto was said to be "TangaTangaring" all over. If Uhuru was not intent on remaining in power, then the claim of Ruto undermining him would not arise. But now that he has intentions and schemes to remain in power then Ruto becomes a burden. That's what is cooking here...

[RV Pundit]

Uhuru despite all the puffing and huffing got 6 senators from central (one who is independent -kirinyanga) and one Embu - and Sakaja. In Gema, Ruto had Nakuru, Laikipia, Meru, and Tharaka. In all Uhuru had 7 elected senators. The rest were intimidated, nominated senators. That is how unpopular he is.

Uhuru has officially gone lame-duck - and now depend entirely on ODM goodwill - to get business done in parliament - because he has taken war to the majority of MPs and senators in Jubilee.

For anything to pass he will have to be doing a lot of heavy work.

In fact, at this point, he really has no option but forms a government of national unity, and let everyone eat. Ruto was willing to let him eat - as long as he didn't move the 2022 cheese - but now he has to create positions for KANU, MadDVD, Kalonzo, and Raila. And they now Uhuru is weakened - so they won't be soft on him.

Ruto broke the Cardinal Law of Power: never outshine the master. Worse he attempted to usurp Uhuru’s base through mlolongo, harambees and endless trips. Both are unforgivable sins. He was tolerated and made to feel anointed in Jubilee 1.0 only for the votes.

BBI is a flop so Uhuru is going home. He would not get any deal if Ruto controlled the ground - power concedes nothing. This is the correct move in GEMA interest. Ruto attempted to yoke GEMA as Raila has done the Luhya- he deserves all the bakoras he is getting. I told Pundit 2 years ago: Ruto will be hammered until he needs GEMA. It came to pass.

Please list the Senate PG attendants or absconders we debate. We see if they are 16/22 as Tangatanga claims. It is very easy to confirm online any denials and recants from both sides. Back Ruto numbers with verifiable facts.

We shall see. And when you analyse numbers at the Senate you realize Uhuru don't have/didn't have numbers. It's a question of brute force. So many Senators have been on media and social media saying they never attended any meeting. And it is verifiable that some of those listed as present were actually not there. Uhuru is a dangerous drunkard with state power; that is all giving him "success.."

NB: In addition Uhuru is doing whatever he's doing to provoke Ruto. So that if Ruto were to oppose anything then their claim of him (Ruto) undermining the president get traction.
And just remember Ruto was not doing anything different from what he was doing during their First term in office. He was still going round the country and preaching Jubilee gospel. But in the second term and after HANDSHAKE then Ruto was said to be "TangaTangaring" all over. If Uhuru was not intent on remaining in power, then the claim of Ruto undermining him would not arise. But now that he has intentions and schemes to remain in power then Ruto becomes a burden. That's what is cooking here...

[Nefertiti]

Like I said - show EVIDENCE- of your innuendos. List the senators who attended or absconded- now you have new spin about intimidation.  Everyone who backs Uhuru is intimidated This new lie is because the solid Uhuru numbers must be explained away.

How about you list the senators whose signatures were forged?  You can’t cause it a lie. Nothing was forged. Anyone can shout anything but no proof - even Orengo says the court order was forged by Tangatanga. 

Scratch that- any link or evidence of Orange House resolutions you listed in this thread? Another fat lie as you attempt to save face and drive a wedge Raila has ejected Ruto and will not take your advice. Expect him to settle for 2 CS and few parastatal. Eyes firmly on the 2022 ball.

As you often advise me: leak your wounds quietly.

Uhuru despite all the puffing and huffing got 6 senators from central (one who is independent -kirinyanga) and one Embu - and Sakaja. In Gema, Ruto had Nakuru, Laikipia, Meru, and Tharaka. In all Uhuru had 7 elected senators. The rest were intimidated, nominated senators. That is how unpopular he is.

Uhuru has officially gone lame-duck - and now depend entirely on ODM goodwill - to get business done in parliament - because he has taken war to the majority of MPs and senators in Jubilee.

For anything to pass he will have to be doing a lot of heavy work.

In fact, at this point, he really has no option but forms a government of national unity, and let everyone eat. Ruto was willing to let him eat - as long as he didn't move the 2022 cheese - but now he has to create positions for KANU, MadDVD, Kalonzo, and Raila. And they now Uhuru is weakened - so they won't be soft on him.

[RV Pundit]

Uhuru has won a pyrrhic victory. He only had Sakaja outside the 5 jubilee GEMA senators he probably intimidated. The rest were nominated senators who have to toe the line or they will be fired. One of such is Milgo woman from Bomet.

The majority of senators, mps, mcas and Jubilee membership are stuck in jubilee with Ruto.

Essentially what Uhuru is doing is joining the opposition - and depending on their goodwill.

Right now he really has no option but forms a unity gov - Raila's 60mps are not enough - he needs the entire NASA 106 MPs to govern because Ruto's has 80% of Jubilee intact.

This is MAD - mutually assured destruction.

He just made the next 2yrs big battle for himself - inside of enjoying retirement.

Like I said - show EVIDENCE- of your innuendos. List the senators who attended or absconded- now you have new spin about intimidation.  Everyone who backs Uhuru is intimidated This new lie is because the solid Uhuru numbers must be explained away.

How about you list the senators whose signatures were forged?  You can’t cause it a lie. Nothing was forged. Anyone can shout anything but no proof - even Orengo says the court order was forged by Tangatanga. 

Scratch that- any link or evidence of Orange House resolutions you listed in this thread? Another fat lie as you attempt to save face and drive a wedge Raila has ejected Ruto and will not take your advice. Expect him to settle for 2 CS and few parastatal. Eyes firmly on the 2022 ball.

As you often advise me: leak your wounds quietly.

[Nefertiti]

Uhuru always had half the GEMA senators- Kang’ata, Ephraim Maina, Mwangi Githiomi- Nyandarua, Charles Kibiku- Kirinyaga. Why intimidate them and based on what? Loans? Wamatangi and Ndwiga attended Uhuru meeting to hang Murkomen. These are the quiet men who will not ship out to hustler movement.

Likes of Yusuf Haji and Fatuma Dullo of course back Uhuru. Not only Sakaja. You could always table the forged signatures we rebut- of course you quickly revise the white lie to intimidation. Even the 146 MPs who protested NMC changes cannot be listed in any reputable media but only River Road rags- cause half of them are MCA - and would debunk the spin.

Uhuru has won a pyrrhic victory. He only had Sakaja outside the 5 jubilee GEMA senators he probably intimidated. The rest were nominated senators who have to toe the line or they will be fired. One of such is Milgo woman from Bomet.

The majority of senators, mps, mcas and Jubilee membership are stuck in jubilee with Ruto.

Essentially what Uhuru is doing is joining the opposition - and depending on their goodwill.

Right now he really has no option but forms a unity gov - Raila's 60mps are not enough - he needs the entire NASA 106 MPs to govern because Ruto's has 80% of Jubilee intact.

This is MAD - mutually assured destruction.

He just made the next 2yrs big battle for himself - inside of enjoying retirement.

[RV Pundit]

First let Uhuru release video of PG meeting before you ask us to proof your wrong.

KANU coalition is illegal. Assume Uhuru got 20 senators. Remove KANU 3 senators. You have 17. Jubilee has 35 mps. Already Uhuru has failed. Remove Kabira who is independent 16 senators.  Remove nominated MPs that Uhuru intimidated with firing. You see Uhuru outside 6 gema senators has Sakaja and Yusuf - those are 8 senators out of 26 elected Jubilee senators.

He such a minority and he is PORK. He has no ground game.  And is now dependant on Raila. So will he be appeasing GEMA or appeasing opposition

He is essentially KAPUT. That is MAD. He is going to run back to Ruto once he realizes it won't be smooth sailing...but by then Ruto would be having direct support in Mt Kenya with new leadership.

Uhuru always had half the GEMA senators- Kang’ata, Ephraim Maina, Mwangi Githiomi- Nyandarua, Charles Kibiku- Kirinyaga. Why intimidate them and based on what? Loans? Wamatangi and Ndwiga attended Uhuru meeting to hang Murkomen. These are the quiet men who will not ship out to hustler movement.

Likes of Yusuf Haji and Fatuma Dullo of course back Uhuru. Not only Sakaja. You could always table the forged signatures we rebut- of course you quickly revise the white lie to intimidation. Even the 146 MPs who protested NMC changes cannot be listed in any reputable media but only River Road rags- cause half of them are MCA - and would debunk the spin.

Uhuru has won a pyrrhic victory. He only had Sakaja outside the 5 jubilee GEMA senators he probably intimidated. The rest were nominated senators who have to toe the line or they will be fired. One of such is Milgo woman from Bomet.

The majority of senators, mps, mcas and Jubilee membership are stuck in jubilee with Ruto.

Essentially what Uhuru is doing is joining the opposition - and depending on their goodwill.

Right now he really has no option but forms a unity gov - Raila's 60mps are not enough - he needs the entire NASA 106 MPs to govern because Ruto's has 80% of Jubilee intact.

This is MAD - mutually assured destruction.

He just made the next 2yrs big battle for himself - inside of enjoying retirement.