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Re: Pundit by the time Wanjohi is done with your boy he wil
« Reply #60 on: April 28, 2020, 04:21:13 PM »
Wake us up when this happens. :) Jubilee is not UDM of 90% Kalenjin and 10% pastoralists - that automatically rebrand as URP. If that were true he would already be preaching new party gospel. Even Nyoro and Kuria will not defect to URP 2. :) He needs to fight to death for Jubilee soul - against Uhuru GoK machine - as Raila sweat out BBI.

What would make half the mps go with Ruto? And half to remain with Raila? The thing is GEMA will not board Raila - they will board Uhuru or another GEMA if there was case to be made. But Uhuru is not going to manage to remove term limits.

Ruto right now can move with 90% of GEMA - but that is too early in the game. You cannot move because of Murathe or Tuju.

Ruto will only move when difference with Uhuru boils over publicly....not through proxies and shadowy characters....Uhuru has to come and say in black and white...he is joining ODM :)
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« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2020, 04:38:10 PM »
Says pulselive, huh? 8) Pages 2 to 20 is Kilimani Moms gossip. Last time the spin about GEMA heckling Uhuru and chiefs vetting folks at rallies were copy-pasted word-for-word and comma-for-comma on these River Road tabloids. Not a single video could be found of course. Even the rag-tag Star cannot run with such blatant lies.

Robina is this the guy you counting on?
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Re: Pundit by the time Wanjohi is done with your boy he wil
« Reply #62 on: April 28, 2020, 05:41:55 PM »
Ruto has the wind behind him as Njuri and Pundit have stated. Raila has tarnished his image beyond repair, Uhuru is a lame duck. Ruto is the man to beat, elites are working overtime to get him but he is a smart chap and he should endure a few humiliations. The big prize is his for the taking. I hate the dynasty more than Ruto, my ideal is to fagia wote but realistically he is the only that can stop Uhuru. God forbid he comes back the dog eaters will take over this country tukiwa macho.

Ruto and Tangatanga are excellent in propaganda I agree. There are all kinds of laughable stories from La Mada to Uhuru being heckled to now Uhuru donating cash to UK. :) No, Ruto is not leading the race - his boat is about to capsize. I don't see Raila facing Ruto's hurdles - instead he has upstaged him to get GoK machinery.

Kenyatta land grabbing and graft was manageable because it was strictly an elite game. Moi spread it to the bureaucracy with TKK. Even during Kibaki this was tolerable. Enter William Ruto who shamelessly invests in heaven. This thug has even corrupted the church - the last frontier. Now even shosho demands a bribe to bless the kids. Ruto as PORK is the worst thing that could happen to Kenya. It would be Sodom & Gomorrah.
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« Reply #63 on: April 28, 2020, 05:52:02 PM »
Ruto is very strategic and tactical. Why would he move enmasse after Tuju and Murathe - two guys who cannot even win MCA seat in their areas - shenagans. There has to be good reason to move.  The move will happen if need be - as you saw majority of Jubilee MPs -148 registered their willingness to move.

As you denigrate URP and pastoralist - you maybe suprised they are silent majority of Jubilee. Kalenjin and GEMA are near equal at 60-60 - 120 - and then next is pastoralist - then next is Ruto people in many small tribes.

Moi won twice with pastoralist as his key plank.

Wake us up when this happens. :) Jubilee is not UDM of 90% Kalenjin and 10% pastoralists - that automatically rebrand as URP. If that were true he would already be preaching new party gospel. Even Nyoro and Kuria will not defect to URP 2. :) He needs to fight to death for Jubilee soul - against Uhuru GoK machine - as Raila sweat out BBI.

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« Reply #64 on: April 28, 2020, 05:56:32 PM »
If Jameson Kinyua Wanjohi had not got a little jealouse - Ruto would have delivered so many roads. That was Jubilee biggest legacy. Low seal volume roads. They are making a huge difference in rural kenya,
The county governments are doing well building the rural roads from basic grading now means with a motor bike, proboxes or a government 4WD you can easily get to the farthest corner. You will find the legendary probox beasts loading muguka in far end interiors at dawn. The miraa harvesters earn 1k before dawn - it iis making it impossible to keep boys in school with these easy money.

Jubilee was doing well with the roads - there are new sparkling roads in Embu and Tharaka. Siakago-Kiritiri is perfect.


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« Reply #65 on: April 28, 2020, 06:00:56 PM »
Do you know why Trump and not Pope is US president. People choose the lesser evil. Everyone know politicians - for who they are. In this case - in 2022 - and constituency that will matter as now - Ruto happen to be lesser evil. The rest ni makelele.

Raila had his chance in 2005 - and immediately Kibaki played him - he went to war - Ruto has chosen a difficult path - but that will bring reward. He has turn the other cheek to Jameson Wanjohi Kinyua shadowy slaps.


Your logic is rich: Ruto worked hard on GEMA - thru mlolongo, mchangos and endless tours. But he has no solid grasp cause he is non-GEMA with a horror history of PEV. Being kicked out of Jubilee is as bad as BBI succeeding - because there is no "we are together with Uhuru" in a new URP. Without the Jubilee coalition he is basically back to URP - 20% - his real worth. Just as Raila ODM without the NASA coalition. Ruto presently hides behind Jubilee behemoth to create unbeatable facade. Very easy for Uhuru to scuttle that facade by choke-holding the party. This is live right now.

Ruto starts from a very bad place. Raila has used BBI to rally the majority of non-GEMA - which makes GEMA a must-win for Ruto. So these Jubilee "shadow-boxing" - is the ball is bouncing back n forth firmly in his danger zone. He has shed support in Mt Kenya - all Waigurus governors, senators and other Mt Kenya crème. Kiraitus, Kang'atas, Ephraims and Kagwes actually represent their folks - they are not suicidal or delusional. The Imenti will not leave Kiraitu and Munya for Ruto and Linturi - nor Tharaka leave Muthomi Njuki for Ruto and Kareke Mbiuki. :) So it obvious just spin that GEMA will not leave Ruto - he only has them through Jubilee aka Uhuruto - which is going up in smoke as we watch.

I see no difference between Ruto today and Raila 2009-2017 - enemy of the state with a slim chance of success. You give him way too much unearned credit.

What would make half the mps go with Ruto? And half to remain with Raila? The thing is GEMA will not board Raila - they will board Uhuru or another GEMA if there was case to be made. But Uhuru is not going to manage to remove term limits.

Ruto right now can move with 90% of GEMA - but that is too early in the game. You cannot move because of Murathe or Tuju.

Ruto will only move when difference with Uhuru boils over publicly....not through proxies and shadowy characters....Uhuru has to come and say in black and white...he is joining ODM :)

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« Reply #66 on: April 30, 2020, 03:13:53 PM »
Ruto is very strategic and tactical. Why would he move enmasse after Tuju and Murathe - two guys who cannot even win MCA seat in their areas - shenagans. There has to be good reason to move.  The move will happen if need be - as you saw majority of Jubilee MPs -148 registered their willingness to move.

As you denigrate URP and pastoralist - you maybe suprised they are silent majority of Jubilee. Kalenjin and GEMA are near equal at 60-60 - 120 - and then next is pastoralist - then next is Ruto people in many small tribes.

Moi won twice with pastoralist as his key plank.

Moi brazenly cheated and rigged and still landed meagre 35%. Ruto without Uhuru and machinery is just URP. You can quote big, bad Robina: GEMA will not move to URP 2. A few psychophants will move- Kimani Ngunjiri, Kihika who have Kalenjin buffer - the rest especially Murang’a and Kiambu will stay put. You think Gachagua will defect to Ruto party as Kabando swiftly take over :) Seem you don’t know this MPigs and how ‘united’ they become to pass salary. Uhuru, Ruto, Railas are totally ignored. You think they will risk their career for Ruto :o You see how governors swiftly dumped Ruto after Waititu and Sonko persecution. Delusional Kiunjuri of course already got displaced by Kagwe. The fool is MIA even in Tangatanga pressers... do you even recall his new party name? :)

Quitting Jubilee will destroy Tangatanga into URP - who despite equitable MPs are negligible votes outside Kalenjin. You will have a few Didimas, Kihika, Ngunjiri - as Kurias, Nanoks, Jumwas, Washiali grow cold feet. Haha “we are together with Uhuru problem is Kibicho and Raila” - how do you play this line when shipping to new party?

By now Ruto if he was going anywhere should have managed to fire straight at Uhuru. But instead he still walk on eggs for mortal fear of GEMA backlash.
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« Reply #67 on: April 30, 2020, 04:04:53 PM »
You're yet to understand politics. The reason why Uhuru groupies are struggling is not because of MPs and Governors. It's the ground game. The GEMA people will force Mps to move if they cannot force Uhuru to shape. Look at Moses Kuria coming back with tail behind. Any politician in central or mt kenya interested in 2022 will be forced to support Ruto or he will go home. The more we get into 2022 - the more they will tell Uhuru to go to hell - because come election day - Mama Ngina will not elect you. Uhuru himself has been rejected twice or more - starting right in Gatundu.

LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS DANGEROUS.

You're yet to understand our politics. You think you know, when you actually know nothing.

You have to understand the power dynamics btw a voter (a tribal voter) and his tribal leader. It's not a slave-master - except in Luo Nyanza. Elsewhere politicians have to work hard, develop their areas, and of course - most importantly - be in tune with COMMUNITY INTEREST.

It's not in GEMA interest to back Raila - it's simply doesn't make sense to them.

Moi brazenly cheated and rigged and still landed meagre 35%. Ruto without Uhuru and machinery is just URP. You can quote big, bad Robina: GEMA will not move to URP 2. A few psychophants will move- Kimani Ngunjiri, Kihika who have Kalenjin buffer - the rest especially Murang’a and Kiambu will stay put. You think Gachagua will defect to Ruto party as Kabando swiftly take over :) Seem you don’t know this MPigs and how ‘united’ they become to pass salary. Uhuru, Ruto, Railas are totally ignored. You think they will risk their career for Ruto :o You see how governors swiftly dumped Ruto after Waititu and Sonko persecution. Delusional Kiunjuri of course already got displaced by Kagwe. The fool is MIA even in Tangatanga pressers... do you even recall his new party name? :)

Quitting Jubilee will destroy Tangatanga into URP - who despite equitable MPs are negligible votes outside Kalenjin. You will have a few Didimas, Kihika, Ngunjiri - as Kurias, Nanoks, Jumwas, Washiali grow cold feet. Haha “we are together with Uhuru problem is Kibicho and Raila” - how do you play this line when shipping to new party?

By now Ruto if he was going anywhere should have managed to fire straight at Uhuru. But instead he still walk on eggs for mortal fear of GEMA backlash.

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« Reply #68 on: May 01, 2020, 08:51:04 AM »
So naturally you fully back his mission.

I think anybody who think GEMA - including Uhuru - want Raila to win - is smoking something very novel like the CORONA virus. Raila is too mercurial and too dangerous for all the elites. They simply cannot trust him or his Luo folks.

Ruto motivation is no 1) to steal and become as rich as MOi and kenyatta and 2) maybe to leave a legacy.

Raila main motivation is revenge...to right historical wrongs. He has no major interest to make money like Uhuru or Ruto or the rest.
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« Reply #69 on: May 01, 2020, 09:15:04 AM »
Well when Ruto stop taking body blows quietly we might see your point. Ruto is not GEMA and he has no magic wand - so he cling to Uhurutopia. Why not take on the wildly unpopular Uhuru - what does he really fear?

Spin on. Yours is not even hubris it denial. Your groupie Garliv alikunja mkia.

You're yet to understand politics. The reason why Uhuru groupies are struggling is not because of MPs and Governors. It's the ground game. The GEMA people will force Mps to move if they cannot force Uhuru to shape. Look at Moses Kuria coming back with tail behind. Any politician in central or mt kenya interested in 2022 will be forced to support Ruto or he will go home. The more we get into 2022 - the more they will tell Uhuru to go to hell - because come election day - Mama Ngina will not elect you. Uhuru himself has been rejected twice or more - starting right in Gatundu.

LITTLE KNOWLEDGE IS DANGEROUS.

You're yet to understand our politics. You think you know, when you actually know nothing.

You have to understand the power dynamics btw a voter (a tribal voter) and his tribal leader. It's not a slave-master - except in Luo Nyanza. Elsewhere politicians have to work hard, develop their areas, and of course - most importantly - be in tune with COMMUNITY INTEREST.

It's not in GEMA interest to back Raila - it's simply doesn't make sense to them.
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« Reply #70 on: May 01, 2020, 09:21:27 AM »
I  think despite the stealing - he would still a lot of stuff done - and that is what matters. I am not naive to imagine he won't steal. And I cannot elect Raila.
So naturally you fully back his mission.

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« Reply #71 on: May 01, 2020, 09:24:30 AM »
Time is the best antidote. I haven't change my stance because the facts as of 2020 are as of 2018. As long as you're selling Raila - Ruto is sleeping walk to PORK. Now if  Uhuru and GEMA were to back somebody else - maybe we can have something novel to talk about.

But Raila in GEMA - is DEAD ON ARRIVAL - in many levels. This is just a scare-scrow that Uhuru is using as cover while he steals.

Well when Ruto stop taking body blows quietly we might see your point. Ruto is not GEMA and he has no magic wand - so he cling to Uhurutopia. Why not take on the wildly unpopular Uhuru - what does he really fear?

Spin on. Yours is not even hubris it denial. Your groupie Garliv alikunja mkia.

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« Reply #72 on: May 01, 2020, 10:38:11 AM »
We given your theories enough time here- Jezebel is long forgotten as dogfight now move to Jubilee House. Time doesn’t wash away your sins- Uhurutopia or “they are playing Raila” is the most laughable. Now you quote Duale that there is a secret card  : ) as we see live on HD gloves coming off. bitmask calls it “up is down logic”.

GEMA have never elected Ruto nor Raila- and they have never not fielded a candidate. Sorry this “Raila is DOA in GEMA” is just another of your many theories. Raila has bagged non-Luo votes for years - unlike Ruto - so what contra facts do you have about their success or failure in GEMA? As it is Uhuru, Kiraitu, Waiguru and heavyweights back Raila - but you tell us they don’t truly want him to win - cause your crystal ball says he is DOA. :) Yours are alternative facts like Trump’s.  :) :D

I told you in 2016 it was a mistake to merge Jubilee 2013 coalition into monolithic party. With FORD, NARC, ODM and shebang of history. But your crystal ball said Jubilee is new ANC - Tuju and Murathe traveled to China and Cuba to study their 100 years Communist Party. :D Cause now you are at PORK mercy with machinery and clauses that make him Supreme Leader in transition. Just as in the real Kenya katiba where DP job is to take PORK instructions like office secretary - Deputy Party Leader is Party Leader’s bitch. No ifs or buts. Worse now if he were to ship to new party - apart from legal problems with PPA - it akin to tempting fate cause you have to sell new party. If Ruto had URP- Tangatanga would be drumming URP without any legal headaches. URP would perhaps be popular in Mt Kenya- without the risk of major haemorrhage at defection. But now - haha - it single party where they can’t meet, no PG, no elections, no consensus on anything. All key posts are in Uhuru claws. But Pundit must spin a yarn about how there is no real war just Tuju and Murathe- who can’t win MCA. Logically they also can’t take such initiative and are in fact Uhuru puppets.

Nothing has changed 2018 to 2020 :o - you’re delusional. 2 years ago you were bragging how Jubilee juggernaut or “mean machine” will sleepwalk Ruto to SH. Ruto would be Acting PORK as Uhuru endorse him and go to sunbathe and smoke weed in Hawaii. Haha instead now the flawless machine decide to commit harakiri- as the nose reject the face - the body rejects the head. The implosion of Jubilee is the ultimate crowning of Ruto failures.

Pundit is as hare-brained as Ruto - aka Bob Mobutu Abacha Arab Singh.


Time is the best antidote. I haven't change my stance because the facts as of 2020 are as of 2018. As long as you're selling Raila - Ruto is sleeping walk to PORK. Now if  Uhuru and GEMA were to back somebody else - maybe we can have something novel to talk about.

But Raila in GEMA - is DEAD ON ARRIVAL - in many levels. This is just a scare-scrow that Uhuru is using as cover while he steals.
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« Reply #73 on: May 01, 2020, 10:53:39 AM »
Long stories like this has not made Raila PORK since his maiden run in 1997. You must have been a toddler then. Watch Ruto nick this. Jezebel - Murather- and name them - are the scare-crows - that Uhuru is using to keep you busy - and entertained - while he virtually has no opposition - and no need to share power - not with Raila - not with Raila - and ultimate aim is to stash his accounts - enjoy power - while it last - and leave you high and dry - as Ruto starts his 10yrs.

Many smart politicians from GEMA knows this - that is why they are solidly behind Ruto - right from Kiambu to northern meru - all RV mps.

You're just a fool who cannot read politics. Raila is a bigger fool though.

We given your theories enough time here- Jezebel is long forgotten as dogfight now move to Jubilee House. Time doesn’t wash away your sins- Uhurutopia or “they are playing Raila” is the most laughable. Now you quote Duale that there is a secret card  : ) as we see live on HD gloves coming off. bitmask calls it “up is down logic”.

GEMA have never elected Ruto nor Raila- and they have never not fielded a candidate. Sorry this “Raila is DOA in GEMA” is just another of your many theories. Raila has bagged non-Luo votes for years - unlike Ruto - so what contra facts do you have about their success or failure in GEMA? As it is Uhuru, Kiraitu, Waiguru and heavyweights back Raila - but you tell us they don’t truly want him to win - cause your crystal ball says he is DOA. :) Yours are alternative facts like Trump’s.  :) :D

I told you in 2016 it was a mistake to merge Jubilee 2013 coalition into monolithic party. With FORD, NARC, ODM and shebang of history. But your crystal ball said Jubilee is new ANC - Tuju and Murathe traveled to China and Cuba to study their 100 years Communist Party. :D Cause now you are at PORK mercy with machinery and clauses that make him Supreme Leader in transition. Just as in the real Kenya katiba where DP job is to take PORK instructions like office secretary - Deputy Party Leader is Party Leader’s bitch. No ifs or buts. Worse now if he were to ship to new party - apart from legal problems with PPA - it akin to tempting fate cause you have to sell new party. If Ruto had URP- Tangatanga would be drumming URP without any legal headaches. URP would perhaps be popular in Mt Kenya- without the risk of major haemorrhage at defection. But now - haha - it single party where they can’t meet, no PG, no elections, no consensus on anything. All key posts are in Uhuru claws. But Pundit must spin a yarn about how there is no real war just Tuju and Murathe- who can’t win MCA. Logically they also can’t take such initiative and are in fact Uhuru puppets.

Nothing has changed 2018 to 2020 :o - you’re delusional. 2 years ago you were bragging how Jubilee juggernaut or “mean machine” will sleepwalk Ruto to SH. Ruto would be Acting PORK as Uhuru endorse him and go to sunbathe and smoke weed in Hawaii. Haha instead now the flawless machine decide to commit harakiri- as the nose reject the face - the body rejects the head. The implosion of Jubilee is the ultimate crowning of Ruto failures.

Pundit is as hare-brained as Ruto - aka Bob Mobutu Abacha Arab Singh.


Time is the best antidote. I haven't change my stance because the facts as of 2020 are as of 2018. As long as you're selling Raila - Ruto is sleeping walk to PORK. Now if  Uhuru and GEMA were to back somebody else - maybe we can have something novel to talk about.

But Raila in GEMA - is DEAD ON ARRIVAL - in many levels. This is just a scare-scrow that Uhuru is using as cover while he steals.

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« Reply #74 on: May 01, 2020, 08:55:55 PM »
Lots of conjecture, spin and wishes as usual. Jubilee wars and the war on Mobutu have been ongoing for 2 years as Raila sit pretty. You have only recently conceded Uhurutopia is dead - but rather than concede JP the Ruto "mean machine" is dead as dodo too -  you are desperately quoting Duale about secret card. Now the new theory is Uhuru greed - pure guesswork with zero evidence. Tangatanga would promptly expose Uhuru and Mama Ngina if they were seriously looting. Sudi and Kuria are exceptional at that. But nada - nope - no major graft story since Ruto was kicked out. Instead we have phony story after phony story about La Mada murder plot, Uhuru being booed in GEMA, chiefs vetting folks at Uhuru rallies - and other nonsense. Now ati Uhuru has donated cash to UK for COVID :D :D People in such desperation would not hesitate to spill any evidence of graft.

Let us stick to what is in the news. Not theory. Mlolongo MPs back Ruto as expected - this means nothing about his chances - they are mercenaries in the war. They fight for the money not loyalty or winning side. Even priests have lined up for the honey - without any political gain - but to line their pockets. Definitely the mlolongo victims and elites like Munga vehemently oppose Ruto as expected. The ball is firmly in his penalty area as all efforts are made to uproot him from the mountain. Kidnapping Jubilee is a very smart strategy for Uhuru - shipping out to URP 2 with GEMA and the entire flock is a herculean task you haven't countenanced. His ODM and UDM experiences don't seem to have prepared Mobutu for this.

Long stories like this has not made Raila PORK since his maiden run in 1997. You must have been a toddler then. Watch Ruto nick this. Jezebel - Murather- and name them - are the scare-crows - that Uhuru is using to keep you busy - and entertained - while he virtually has no opposition - and no need to share power - not with Raila - not with Raila - and ultimate aim is to stash his accounts - enjoy power - while it last - and leave you high and dry - as Ruto starts his 10yrs.

Many smart politicians from GEMA knows this - that is why they are solidly behind Ruto - right from Kiambu to northern meru - all RV mps.

You're just a fool who cannot read politics. Raila is a bigger fool though.
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