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Are kenya really testing corona
« on: March 27, 2020, 07:18:29 PM »
I mean Ugandans and Rwandese are flagging kenyans with Corona but not Kenya.

But well maybe they are - everywhere I go - there are temperature scanners everywhere - and hand sanitizers.

In developed world - I think shoving thermometers and hand sanitizers - will be seen to be patronizing.


Tomorrow is my 14th date - and for sure I have no corona :)

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2020, 01:46:11 AM »
https://google.org/crisisresponse/covid19-map?hl=en

Looks like the gdp-per-capita map... the richer the more infected
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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 08:23:38 AM »
Yes - seem an indicator of the state of health care system. Now what happens when developed world defeat corona and starts blocking migrations to and from developing countries.

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2020, 03:19:03 AM »
Yes - seem an indicator of the state of health care system. Now what happens when developed world defeat corona and starts blocking migrations to and from developing countries.

Yeah I believe mass tests make our statistics look more scary. No they can't abandon you on this... due to risk of spreading. It ebola on steroids. They will continue hammering it till they crack the vaccine.
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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2020, 03:22:14 AM »
RV Pundit are you still in Switzerland?
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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2020, 08:24:40 PM »
RV Pundit are you still in Switzerland?

Pundit can you answer this. We are concerned especially with your chronic alcoholism which makes you vulnerable.
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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2020, 08:34:27 PM »
I like your sense of humour. Alcoholism is great against all viruses and flus.
Pundit can you answer this. We are concerned especially with your chronic alcoholism which makes you vulnerable.

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2020, 08:57:16 PM »
Men are dying in double numbers than women due to alcohol and tobacco which mess the organs. The alcohol and smoke you gulp for years long went urinal after destroying your liver and lungs.

I like your sense of humour. Alcoholism is great against all viruses and flus.
Pundit can you answer this. We are concerned especially with your chronic alcoholism which makes you vulnerable.
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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2020, 12:02:18 AM »
Men are dying in double numbers than women due to alcohol and tobacco which mess the organs. The alcohol and smoke you gulp for years long went urinal after destroying your liver and lungs.

I like your sense of humour. Alcoholism is great against all viruses and flus.
Pundit can you answer this. We are concerned especially with your chronic alcoholism which makes you vulnerable.

LOL!!!
My area is getting hit really hard.

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2020, 01:18:48 AM »
That first death in Kenya is right in my backyard.

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2020, 12:54:37 AM »
Can covid-19 escalate the rise of China? They were supposed to be at the mercy of the Trump furious trade blows and sanctions on Huawei, ZTE, etc. Now that is in limbo as the US, Europe and the world scramble for ventilators and equipment that China mints so rapidly. These exports are tariff-free.8) The story of US outbidding and undercutting France and Canada for ventilators was comical. The level of preparedness and how fast China has stumped the bug as the West stutters. There is just something about the Chinese. A cool, calm reassuring efficiency. From climate change now they are clearly leading in fighting the pandemic.

Thai listed companies to get a boost as Chinese economy starts to roll
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/04/11/thai-listed-companies-to-get-a-boost-as-chinese-economy-starts-to-roll

Coronavirus: China claims stimulus ‘10 times more efficient’ than US Fed, as new loans top US$1 trillion
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3079423/coronavirus-china-claims-stimulus-10-times-more-efficient-us
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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2020, 02:16:15 AM »
Robina
Am not sold on the Chinese COVID numbers. I think its like 100million infected with 30k dead. Am basing my numbers on whats trending in each given area. Looks like 10% of any given population is infected with 1-3% dying.

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2020, 03:01:47 PM »
Kenya testing may be highly unreliable. I am doubting if kemri put the testing approval through the rigour required. FDA announced that most test are high unreliable to be deployed widely

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2020, 05:23:51 PM »
Robina
Am not sold on the Chinese COVID numbers. I think its like 100million infected with 30k dead. Am basing my numbers on whats trending in each given area. Looks like 10% of any given population is infected with 1-3% dying.

I believe the Chinese on covid-19 because :

1. Total lockdown of Wuhan and other cities was in the news. This is effective as we are seeing the slowdown from mere curfews and curtailed inter-county mobility in Kenya.

2. The easing of the lockdowns shows containment. Lockdown was 2 months - Jan to March. A relatively short period for 30k deaths. The quick containment equal few infections and deaths. You can't cure even 1m folks in 2 months.... the 80k makes more sense.

3. China leads in medtech (ventilators, etc), pharma research and manufacture, medical infra, etc. The US has had to swallow her pride and not only reverse the Trump tariffs but actually zero-rate medical tariffs on China. Logically this efficiency and capacity cannot be restricted to saving the globe but not their own. They put up a covid-19 hospital in 10 days!

4. I am not sold on the motivation for Chinese cheating. This is not GDP. What stops the other countries from such cheating? Especially when the charges are from Trump and Pompeo. WHO, EU and others have not questioned the numbers.

5. No senior Chinese official has fallen ill... this would be difficult to conceal for the top cremé. Nor any celebs - say Lee Keqiang, Jack Ma, Carrie Lam, Kai-fu Lee, Reng Zhengfei - such calibre are all around while we see them pop off in the west, Asia and Africa. If they had 100m infections - what are the chances? 8) If a rockstar dies how do you spin that?

6. The west fumbled with our denialism and hubris. Then slow action. Trump dismissed it as a haux same as climate change. An incredible 3 months since the outbreak - with infections and deaths thru the roof - many states here in the US are still not on lockdown.


In short don't fall for Trump and US sour grapes about China. Even the GDP stories - the source is always our govt and media 8) In geopolitics, geowars, geoeconomics there is no distinction between CNN, MSNBC, Fox, Congress and the State Department. The brazen lies these guys tell about Huawei, Syria, etc are not isolated. Now the "first world" are shamelessly fighting over Chinese med supplies... Kibra style  :)
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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2020, 11:32:28 PM »
Kenya is cooking figures. Pulling them out their collective bottom

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2020, 06:25:29 AM »
Looting and mayhem has started in South Africa as total lockdown causes hunger in urban slums.

I wonder how it’s going in Kenya.
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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2020, 12:33:24 PM »
Kenyan in urban slums have run back to the villages. Once another window opens after 21 days inter county travel cessation ends urban slums will be deserted as all those remaining will be broke without a shilling.

Police brutality under this vulnerable illegitimate jubilee will crush any rioting without limits. Kenyan police are just unhinged - total animals.

The police are already milking dry curfew and quarantine rules - shop break ins, illegal towing of vehicles, extortions.

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2020, 12:46:39 PM »
Five Kenyan truck drivers test positive in Uganda. Are they picking it along the way or from ship crews/cargo at the port and KPA staff?
 
https://www.pmldaily.com/news/2020/04/breaking-uganda-confirms-11-coronavirus-cases.html
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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #18 on: April 24, 2020, 01:34:53 PM »
Five Kenyan truck drivers test positive in Uganda. Are they picking it along the way or from ship crews/cargo at the port and KPA staff?..

Corona is widespread in kenya. It is only that those kemri test kits are shitty
 
https://www.pmldaily.com/news/2020/04/breaking-uganda-confirms-11-coronavirus-cases.html

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Re: Are kenya really testing corona
« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2020, 05:11:18 PM »
Been away for a while. Hope this is the right place. I see .net yet I left behind. Org.

First I think Kenya is heading to a very hard place. They saw the outbreak as a money maker the same way they cannibalize narcotics caught by Australians pretend to destroy but all the time saying "this is too much money to be destroyed".

Those of us who had seen this thing coming  were aghast. We heard stories of how people in GoK thought it was just a flu and how they were buying Right Wing conspiracy theories and realized the intelligentsia planned to screw us in the asshole bila vaseline

So here we are. They are cooking figures. They are banking on charity. International charity. They gave up on fighting the virus and are now more concerned with how Ruto will use it to overturn the Uhuru Kenyatta kleptocracy.

I expect it to blow out massively. Health centers will collapse because nurses without protective clothing and resources will bolt.

The next level will also collapse. Referral hospitals will only function because the few uninfected policemen will be guarding them. Did I say the military will eventually come in?

We've seen this in DRC, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Guinea during the Ebola crisis

Yet Ebola is slower than Coronavirus. It's less contagious.  Yet it easily overwhelmed health systems. Bodies couldn't be buried. People fled from Sierra Leone to Liberia and liberians fled to Sierra Leone. Total confusion.

I haven't seen anything to say it'll be different.

The police force will collapse. They shut their doors or abandon stations rather than get infected by people seeking services.

I sincerely pray that it be different.
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