Author Topic: Will Uhuru survive GEMA rebellion. (Read 9638 times)

Nefertiti · « **Reply #40 on:** March 18, 2020, 12:15:28 PM »

Pundit kweli - you got double standards. If Gema mlolongo MPs are listening to the ground and it is with Ruto or anti-Raila... then equally non-Gema are listening to their ground which is BBI and Handshake and definitely anti-Ruto. That makes Ruto path very narrow... as the proverbial road to heaven

- only few Saint Mois ever made it. Cause once BBI 2 cure term-limit - dicey Gema go up in smoke for Ruto. It will be a very historic rout - Guinness Book variety - as Ruto wind up with Kalenjin. Uhuru-Raila vs Ruto-Anybody is a joke.

Ruto of course keep his fingers crossed and ears-eyes shut .... as the bonking BBI steamroller furiously approach.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #41 on:** March 18, 2020, 12:27:24 PM »

You're back to the default mode - where you equate support for BBI (everyone has their own ideas) - with support for Raila (and Uhuru) political ambitions. You're beyond crazy. Just better than Orengo and Raila who think we can get referendum done by June 2020 - now August 2020 - and now with Corona virus - I guess we can do it by 2020 Dec. All we need are chiefs rolling through villages collecting signatures, mca rail-roaded to approved, parliament forced to decide on it, IEBC steamrolled to organize and rig an unpopular referendum...all that in two short months.

Again - consider scenario B - Uhuru is enjoying Raila or Raila has no Uhuru in his corner...

How does that work out for you? Yaani now Raila only path to victory is through a retiring Uhuru

Quote from: Robina on March 18, 2020, 12:15:28 PM

Pundit kweli - you got double standards. If Gema mlolongo MPs are listening to the ground and it is with Ruto or anti-Raila... then equally non-Gema are listening to their ground which is BBI and Handshake and definitely anti-Ruto. That makes Ruto path very narrow... as the proverbial road to heaven - only few Saint Mois ever made it. Cause once BBI 2 cure term-limit - dicey Gema go up in smoke for Ruto. It will be a very historic rout - Guinness Book variety - as Ruto wind up with Kalenjin. Uhuru-Raila vs Ruto-Anybody is a joke.

Ruto of course keep his fingers crossed and ears-eyes shut .... as the bonking BBI steamroller furiously approach.

Nefertiti · « **Reply #42 on:** March 18, 2020, 01:22:21 PM »

Your default mode is Uhuruto are playing Raila - bitmask call it "up is down" theory - evidence show the polar opposite.

BBI wazee are already compiling the report - which is mere charade and PR cause it choreographed. Ruto knows this and never bothered to appear before the Haji panel. Aukot one-man guitar went all the way to counties in record one year - now with Uhuru-Raila combo it need mere 1 year for entire process.

Raila has 2 paths to SH....

1. BBI/Uhuru 2.0 is surer bet - cause they will rout Ruto bila wasi wasi. This is ceremonial PORK disguised as C-in-C, head of state, govt, church and the shebang. A queen.

2. Raila has non-Gema in his corner. With Uhuru help in Maa and Gusii - he can still nail it.

Ruto ONLY path to SH is maintaining a 100% grip on Mt Kenya - which is herculean task. We already see the huge Gema cracks of Waigurus, Kamandas, Kang'atas, Kanini Kegas - and of course big whale Uhuru. He is no rainmaker despite your hubris.

Quote from: RV Pundit on March 18, 2020, 12:27:24 PM

You're back to the default mode - where you equate support for BBI (everyone has their own ideas) - with support for Raila (and Uhuru) political ambitions. You're beyond crazy. Just better than Orengo and Raila who think we can get referendum done by June 2020 - now August 2020 - and now with Corona virus - I guess we can do it by 2020 Dec. All we need are chiefs rolling through villages collecting signatures, mca rail-roaded to approved, parliament forced to decide on it, IEBC steamrolled to organize and rig an unpopular referendum...all that in two short months.

Again - consider scenario B - Uhuru is enjoying Raila or Raila has no Uhuru in his corner...

How does that work out for you? Yaani now Raila only path to victory is through a retiring Uhuru

RV Pundit · « **Reply #43 on:** March 18, 2020, 01:37:39 PM »

I see you're preparing to describe anything a win - after the BBI 1.0 rout - this time you're prepared to take anything and declare BBI 2.0. Coping mechanism. Let us have BBI 2.0 and we shall see who is getting played. Let do the referendum. And amend the katiba...and Raila will finally become PORK...a queen this time.

Quote from: Robina on March 18, 2020, 01:22:21 PM

Your default mode is Uhuruto are playing Raila - bitmask call it "up is down" theory - evidence show the polar opposite.

BBI wazee are already compiling the report - which is mere charade and PR cause it choreographed. Ruto knows this and never bothered to appear before the Haji panel. Aukot one-man guitar went all the way to counties in record one year - now with Uhuru-Raila combo it need mere 1 year for entire process.

Raila has 2 paths to SH....

1. BBI/Uhuru 2.0 is surer bet - cause they will rout Ruto bila wasi wasi. This is ceremonial PORK disguised as C-in-C, head of state, govt, church and the shebang. A queen.

2. Raila has non-Gema in his corner. With Uhuru help in Maa and Gusii - he can still nail it.

Ruto ONLY path to SH is maintaining a 100% grip on Mt Kenya - which is herculean task. We already see the huge Gema cracks of Waigurus, Kamandas, Kang'atas, Kanini Kegas - and of course big whale Uhuru. He is no rainmaker despite your hubris.

Quote from: RV Pundit on March 18, 2020, 12:27:24 PM
You're back to the default mode - where you equate support for BBI (everyone has their own ideas) - with support for Raila (and Uhuru) political ambitions. You're beyond crazy. Just better than Orengo and Raila who think we can get referendum done by June 2020 - now August 2020 - and now with Corona virus - I guess we can do it by 2020 Dec. All we need are chiefs rolling through villages collecting signatures, mca rail-roaded to approved, parliament forced to decide on it, IEBC steamrolled to organize and rig an unpopular referendum...all that in two short months.

Again - consider scenario B - Uhuru is enjoying Raila or Raila has no Uhuru in his corner...

How does that work out for you? Yaani now Raila only path to victory is through a retiring Uhuru

Pajero · « **Reply #44 on:** March 18, 2020, 08:34:23 PM »

Gema is not ready for a Raila or Ruto presidency whether ceremonial or whichever,BBi is a scheme to appease other tribes by less powerfully PM ,DPM positions to avoid backlash and repeat of 42 vs 1.Having realized that they have already used and dumped Luos,kambas and now Kalenjins no other big tribe will be willing to enter into a political pact with them under the current constitutional order,thus the need to bring BBI.See you laters,you will thank me for this.

Wa Njambi · « **Reply #45 on:** March 18, 2020, 09:34:20 PM »

Njamba...We stopped Reggae just like that. Uguruki BB? and all that jazz. Ruto is unstoppable...but more important, RAO Orengo Nyongo Mbadi have expired. Reggae and Bangi go together and you guys know what Uhuru smokes. We need Jubilee elections...March

Quote from: KenyanPlato on March 17, 2020, 03:06:36 PM

Kikuyus won't vote for a thief. Uhuru and ruto will be rejected and are now rejected ..all kikuyus need is a moderate

Nefertiti · « **Reply #46 on:** March 18, 2020, 09:40:19 PM »

Uhuru already rolling out BBI... formss Nairobi Metropolitan department

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/news/2020/03/uhuru-appoints-military-man-to-head-nairobi-metropolitan-service/

Nefertiti · « **Reply #47 on:** March 18, 2020, 09:42:50 PM »

Dear RV Pundit,

In April 2017 while I was drumming up PK, you were shouting here how Sonko the alley cat would be a great governor. Now the joke has been relieved for graft and incompetence. What does that say about your judgement? Your other hero Ruto would turn out exactly the same as PORK.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #48 on:** March 19, 2020, 06:05:40 AM »

You're desperate Robina.Sonko won and is the governor.Judiciary ruling to suspend governors upon indictment is the greatest threat to devolution.The rest are details

Nefertiti · « **Reply #49 on:** March 19, 2020, 06:53:29 AM »

Quote from: RV Pundit on March 19, 2020, 06:05:40 AM

You're desperate Robina.Sonko won and is the governor.Judiciary ruling to suspend governors upon indictment is the greatest threat to devolution.The rest are details

Sonko, Waititu, Joho and other "hustlers" you praised are the worst performers ever. Take some responsibility.

Nefertiti · « **Reply #50 on:** March 19, 2020, 07:01:18 AM »

Incredible revisionism. PEV and 41-v-1 were comprehensively discussed in 2010... with regional balance or equity clauses - Kaparo/Mzalendo Kibunjia NCIC to watch against hate speech - NLC to safeguard land rights of immigrants, etc. Kalenjin voted No over NLC.

Now compared to Handshake and BBI - Jubilee was negotiated in 2hr meeting between Uhuru-Jamleck vs Ruto-Keter... then photo-op at Jevanjee. Jubilee was perfect opportunism to fight ICC. At least the BBI intends to re-usher parliamentary and other fundamental changes for posterity.

Quote from: RV Pundit on March 18, 2020, 10:46:59 AM

Plato for a long time went by Njamba - which was Kikuyu nickname for Raila *Plato is pro-Raila normally - a hero of 2002 turned villain - after Raila floored Kibaki in 2005 referendum and of course 2007 PEV. How Raila went from a Njamba to the evil itself is hard to fathom - but Kikuyus thinks he incited anti-kikuyu hatred in Non-GEMA (that Moi's KANU had build before abruptly picking Uhuru). Out of that Anti-Kikuyu hatred - kikuyus were kicked out from all corners of Kenya in 2007 - and that bitterness still live. The epicenter, of course, was Ruto's RV and given 1M plus Kikuyu call RV home, there was incentive to make peace and bury the hatchet. That peace is colloquial called JUBILEE. Anybody threatening Jubilee is threatening the peace pact. Now you know.

For Raila to go back to being Njamba - he first needs to sincerely apologize to GEMA and GEMA needs to also apologize for rigging him out. That is a tough conversation that is being sugar-coated as BBI and handshake.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #51 on:** March 19, 2020, 11:05:49 AM »

I don't think BBI is any sincere dialog - that is why Raila remain unwelcome in mt Kenya. BBI in the fullness of time will be a waste of time

Quote from: Robina on March 19, 2020, 07:01:18 AM

Incredible revisionism. PEV and 41-v-1 were comprehensively discussed in 2010... with regional balance or equity clauses - Kaparo/Mzalendo Kibunjia NCIC to watch against hate speech - NLC to safeguard land rights of immigrants, etc. Kalenjin voted No over NLC.

Now compared to Handshake and BBI - Jubilee was negotiated in 2hr meeting between Uhuru-Jamleck vs Ruto-Keter... then photo-op at Jevanjee. Jubilee was perfect opportunism to fight ICC. At least the BBI intends to re-usher parliamentary and other fundamental changes for posterity.

Nefertiti · « **Reply #52 on:** March 19, 2020, 12:02:28 PM »

BBI changing the system and increasing devolution will be long-lasting positive change. 3 year old Jubilee is dead as dodo.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #53 on:** March 19, 2020, 12:38:55 PM »

I voted Sonko and I did it he did a better job than Kidero. I thought Waitutu - brave fight against drug addiction in Kiambu was commendable. I am not a fan of JOHO. I support Mutua - he has commonsensical approach to issues - although he can be a pussy - like when he cried about Ruto squeezing his hand. Devolution is now dismembered. Governors are scared - because DCI & DPP - can make them jobless.

Quote from: Robina on March 19, 2020, 06:53:29 AM

Sonko, Waititu, Joho and other "hustlers" you praised are the worst performers ever. Take some responsibility.

Nefertiti · « **Reply #54 on:** March 20, 2020, 08:31:00 AM »

Mbugua allowed your boy into SH first time in months

RV Pundit · « **Reply #55 on:** March 20, 2020, 03:23:46 PM »

Mbugua if he still wants to be Nakuru governor needs to be a lot nicer...that position of the chairs extgreme

Quote from: Robina on March 20, 2020, 08:31:00 AM

Mbugua allowed your boy into SH first time in months

Nefertiti · « **Reply #56 on:** March 20, 2020, 09:05:08 PM »

SH comptroller is a much better job

Quote from: RV Pundit on March 20, 2020, 03:23:46 PM

Mbugua if he still wants to be Nakuru governor needs to be a lot nicer...that position of the chairs extgreme
Quote from: Robina on March 20, 2020, 08:31:00 AM
Mbugua allowed your boy into SH first time in months

RV Pundit · « **Reply #57 on:** March 21, 2020, 11:30:51 AM »

When will you realize that Uhuru in exactly two years will be JOBLESS? Okay not exactly - but will retain a retinue of small staff - to help him settle down in Ichaweri or Northland City.

Let me spell it for you. We are in mid-2020 - Uhuru retires in mid-2022. He becomes officially irrelevant in mid-2021. Rv Pundit and others interested in politics may take a plunge then

and we want to be close to the ground - not some retiring BIMBO

. You can say he really has two budgets - to steal - and that is it.

Others facing a similar fate - Joho, Oparanya, Wairia, Wambora, Chepkwony, Ojaamong, etfc.

Quote from: Robina on March 20, 2020, 09:05:08 PM

SH comptroller is a much better job

Nefertiti · « **Reply #58 on:** March 22, 2020, 03:30:45 AM »

Uhuru has been turning lameduck weekly since 2018 Handshake. Which of course is another horizon. Instead we have lameduck former co-president. He pulled Jujitsu now the whole NASA opposition singing his song. The bimbo has played your genius 10-0.

Mark my words : UHURU KENYATTA IS GOING NOWHERE ANYTIME SOON. With termless parliamentary he may clock Jomo years in power.

Garliv · « **Reply #59 on:** March 22, 2020, 05:23:03 PM »

It is a hard and fast rule (though unwritten) that for each leader of the Big Five in Kenya, he (there has never been a she!) MUST have the backing of his people. Have the backing of "your people" and me I have backing of "my people" then we make a deal.
Uhuru has no backing of his people. He is alone and a small greedy cabal; and that's it! Even RAO will soon realize this self evident fact and am sure he will do what he has to do: DUMP UHURU. RAO has to get another game plan.

Uhuru use at the moment is he does whatever he can including being dictatorial and deliver Parliamentary System or whatever other system they dreaming up. And even after he delivers, his usefulness is in doubt.

Quote from: Robina on March 22, 2020, 03:30:45 AM

Uhuru has been turning lameduck weekly since 2018 Handshake. Which of course is another horizon. Instead we have lameduck former co-president. He pulled Jujitsu now the whole NASA opposition singing his song. The bimbo has played your genius 10-0.

Mark my words : UHURU KENYATTA IS GOING NOWHERE ANYTIME SOON. With termless parliamentary he may clock Jomo years in power.

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Author Topic: Will Uhuru survive GEMA rebellion. (Read 9638 times)