Will Uhuru survive GEMA rebellion.

[RV Pundit]

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ACK Bishop slams him. Songs are being composed against him. Kiunjuri or someone there is wasting time - for this is another Moi in the making.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-03-16-pastor-urges-uhuru-to-end-bad-blood-with-ruto/

https://www.the-star.co.ke/sasa/word-is/2020-03-17-a-bitter-root-is-growing-in-uhurus-leadership-muigai/

[RV Pundit]

I couldn't agree more with Barsitei....

Finally a voice of reason. Jubilee agenda was on course. In fact jubilee's performance in its first term in office 2013-2017 stands out. Roads expansion, electricity connections, dams, medical front, subsidized farm inputs, revival of industries such as RIVATEX, reforms in the education sector eg. examination body just to mention but a few. Those might as well be the only Uhuru's legacy. Because since the coming in of Raila Odinga and by extension ODM into government things have gone haywire. Everything stopped moving. And that's a fact everyone can see.
RAO is known in propagating illusions theories. ODM is good in such things. They are great in speaking big things. Big English and policy generation. But very poor in follow up and implementation, says Miguna Miguna. That's the virus the handshake infected President Kenyatta. Thank you Canon. God bless you.

[patel]

Uhuru has survived 2 stolen elections, Gema rebellion is nothing. They did not put him there they only provided political cover.  Handshake deal gives Uhuru much bigger political cover and stability than Gema would.  Uhuru should throw Gema youth a bone by tilting military and police recruitment in Gemas favor, let them take like 60% of national slots.

Jubilee 1.0 maendeleo was debt driven nothing worth discussing there. People should learn you can rig elections but you cannot rig the economy. Watu wakule ujeuri wao.

[KenyanPlato]

Kikuyus won't vote for a thief. Uhuru and ruto will be rejected and are now rejected ..all kikuyus need is a moderate

[RV Pundit]

Kikuyus are thieves - so said some people. Be aware.

Kikuyus won't vote for a thief. Uhuru and ruto will be rejected and are now rejected ..all kikuyus need is a moderate

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Uhuru has survived 2 stolen elections, Gema rebellion is nothing. They did not put him there they only provided political cover.  Handshake deal gives Uhuru much bigger political cover and stability than Gema would.  Uhuru should throw Gema youth a bone by tilting military and police recruitment in Gemas favor, let them take like 60% of national slots.

Jubilee 1.0 maendeleo was debt driven nothing worth discussing there. People should learn you can rig elections but you cannot rig the economy. Watu wakule ujeuri wao.

Yep.  They have never had numbers, despite the constant gaslighting.  Uhuru would know and probably figured it not worth the risk to steal another one for someone he doesn’t trust no less.  I remember the hustler begging for baba to be arrested after the Miguna swearing in.

I suspect most GEMA anti-BBI are anti-Raila more so than pro-hustler.  Raila just happens to be the immediate looming “threat”.

[RV Pundit]

Their demographic data shows an anomaly that would interest researchers. The number of kids enrolled in schools, their total population, is at complete variance with voting population.

Yep.  They have never had numbers, despite the constant gaslighting.  Uhuru would know and probably figured it not worth the risk to steal another one for someone he doesn’t trust no less.  I remember the hustler begging for baba to be arrested after the Miguna swearing in.

I suspect most GEMA anti-BBI are anti-Raila more so than pro-hustler.  Raila just happens to be the immediate looming “threat”.

[Nefertiti]

The proper question is how long Ruto propaganda will help him? You cannot compete in Mt Kenya against the Gema prince. It a matter of time before fallacies like chiefs vetting raia fall flat.

[RV Pundit]

When the Prince is selling PORK in Saudi Arabia - even Robina can score brownie points.

The proper question is how long Ruto propaganda will help him? You cannot compete in Mt Kenya against the Gema prince. It a matter of time before fallacies like chiefs vetting raia fall flat.

[Nefertiti]

We debunked this a while back. Gema voting numbers are reasonable. Since their birthrate and headcount are dwindling fast, embracing parliamentary especially with a few more MPs is very opportune. Kalenjin are the big losers in the present situation.

Their demographic data shows an anomaly that would interest researchers. The number of kids enrolled in schools, their total population, is at complete variance with voting population.

[Nefertiti]

You are in a parallel universe.

First, Raila is doing way better than Ruto in non-Gema. Even with 100% Mt Kenya ala 2013-17 Ruto would still struggle against Raila.

Second, Mt Kenya are very dicey. Uhuru is going nowhere ergo Ruto is DOA in Gema. Those priests he has been giving blood-tithe can write him praise songs and it won't matter.

Ruto best chance was pre-Handshake. Now the odds are severely stark against him. You can tell this from his shaken deadbeat demeanor and body language.. as Uhuru and Raila have become so corky.

When the Prince is selling PORK in Saudi Arabia - even Robina can score brownie points.

The proper question is how long Ruto propaganda will help him? You cannot compete in Mt Kenya against the Gema prince. It a matter of time before fallacies like chiefs vetting raia fall flat.

[Kadudu]

Pundit forgets that elections courtesy of Uhuru and Ruto are rigged in Kenya. Next elections Mt Kenya will not come out and vote 101% like in the last past two elections. The numbers will be more realistic with an IEBC bent out to please Uhuru and not Ruto.
If elections in 2017 had been fair, Chris Msando would still be with us. Why the need to eleiminate him if the Jubilee victory was so eminent?

[Nefertiti]

Pundit forgets that elections courtesy of Uhuru and Ruto are rigged in Kenya. Next elections Mt Kenya will not come out and vote 101% like in the last past two elections. The numbers will be more realistic with an IEBC bent out to please Uhuru and not Ruto.
If elections in 2017 had been fair, Chris Msando would still be with us. Why the need to eleiminate him if the Jubilee victory was so eminent?

Furthermore even the numbers are not good for him as Pundit keeps spinning. Even before you factor the rigging machine. His only leverage is hostages he desperately needs and dare not scare.

[Nefertiti]

Uhuru has survived 2 stolen elections, Gema rebellion is nothing. They did not put him there they only provided political cover.  Handshake deal gives Uhuru much bigger political cover and stability than Gema would.  Uhuru should throw Gema youth a bone by tilting military and police recruitment in Gemas favor, let them take like 60% of national slots.

Jubilee 1.0 maendeleo was debt driven nothing worth discussing there. People should learn you can rig elections but you cannot rig the economy. Watu wakule ujeuri wao.

Pundit believes in imaginary miracles by Ruto in Jubilee 1.0 which stopped at Handshake. The mountain of debt and minted losses are ignored.

[KenyanPlato]

Mandago
Is not making matters better for lootall. By him targeting Kikuyu traders he is sending message that kalenjins are not ready to deal

[RV Pundit]

Very right. We are in parallel universes. Where I LIVE - raila losing like 5 times and absconding elections - makes him DOA in non-gema unless there are folks who enjoy losin and losin. Even the Luos here are tired.

You see in my universe - Ruto (with all his flaws) will compete with Raila (hated by GEMA to the hilt) - Kalonzo, MaDVD and Gideon - and frankly all opinions says its not even close.

The rest are details.

You are in a parallel universe.

First, Raila is doing way better than Ruto in non-Gema. Even with 100% Mt Kenya ala 2013-17 Ruto would still struggle against Raila.

Second, Mt Kenya are very dicey. Uhuru is going nowhere ergo Ruto is DOA in Gema. Those priests he has been giving blood-tithe can write him praise songs and it won't matter.

Ruto best chance was pre-Handshake. Now the odds are severely stark against him. You can tell this from his shaken deadbeat demeanor and body language.. as Uhuru and Raila have become so corky.

When the Prince is selling PORK in Saudi Arabia - even Robina can score brownie points.

The proper question is how long Ruto propaganda will help him? You cannot compete in Mt Kenya against the Gema prince. It a matter of time before fallacies like chiefs vetting raia fall flat.

[Nefertiti]

You are alone in your universe. Right here on K.Mambo only Garliv agrees with your story. See - on one hand you say politicians follow the ground - on the other when majority of said leaders oppose Ruto so how does he have the ground? Logic, logic. For every one Barsitei there are 2 or 3 anti-Ruto views - even bitter, clueless Karua thinks he is the least qualified to be PORK. Likes of Mdvd are not sure of anything except that they will not be joining Ruto - you can google it -  imagine such a wish-washy safe-pair-hands joke is sure of at least that one thing.

Of course no credible poll shows Ruto leading anything - except maybe those done before Uhuru 2.0 surfaced. If there is such a poll please share. If you do one now you will find vitu kwa ground ni different like Kibra.

... in related news - BBI wazee are busy compiling BBI 2.0 - seem they don't need Murkomen and RV views. Tangatanga were spoiling for a showdown in Nakuru.

Referendum it is, we just have to decide the date, says Haji
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Referendum-it-is--we-just-have-to-decide-date-Haji-/1064-5491450-gxju62/index.html

Very right. We are in parallel universes. Where I LIVE - raila losing like 5 times and absconding elections - makes him DOA in non-gema unless there are folks who enjoy losin and losin. Even the Luos here are tired.

You see in my universe - Ruto (with all his flaws) will compete with Raila (hated by GEMA to the hilt) - Kalonzo, MaDVD and Gideon - and frankly all opinions says its not even close.

The rest are details.

You are in a parallel universe.

First, Raila is doing way better than Ruto in non-Gema. Even with 100% Mt Kenya ala 2013-17 Ruto would still struggle against Raila.

Second, Mt Kenya are very dicey. Uhuru is going nowhere ergo Ruto is DOA in Gema. Those priests he has been giving blood-tithe can write him praise songs and it won't matter.

Ruto best chance was pre-Handshake. Now the odds are severely stark against him. You can tell this from his shaken deadbeat demeanor and body language.. as Uhuru and Raila have become so corky.

When the Prince is selling PORK in Saudi Arabia - even Robina can score brownie points.

The proper question is how long Ruto propaganda will help him? You cannot compete in Mt Kenya against the Gema prince. It a matter of time before fallacies like chiefs vetting raia fall flat.

[RV Pundit]

I rather be alone in my universes than suffer this.As always time is the best arbiter.95% of Jubilee..here or elsewhere are stuck with Ruto. Bitter reality..Raila Trojan horse is transparent and Jubilee have simply refused to play.Its upto Uhuru to decide when to pull the plug before the plug us pulled.Wait for BBI and referendum...in fact if it was to happen Ruto would win by some margins.Ruto just need to replace max 10%..which is child play because Uhuru had to deal with anti kikuyu sentiment in non GEMA and Ruto doesn'ts

You are alone in your universe. Right here on K.Mambo only Garliv agrees with your story. See - on one hand you say politicians follow the ground - on the other when said leaders all oppose Ruto so how does he have the ground? Logic, logic. For every one Barsitei there are 2 or 3 anti-Ruto views - even bitter, clueless Karua thinks he is the least qualified to be PORK. Likes of Mdvd are not sure of anything except that they will not be joining Ruto - you can google it -  imagine such a wish-washy safe-pair-hands bloke is sure of at least that one thing.

Of course no credible poll shows Ruto leading anything - except maybe those done before Uhuru 2.0 surfaced. If there is such a poll please share. If you do one now you will find vitu kwa ground ni different like Kibra.

... in related news - BBI wazee are busy compiling BBI 2.0 - seem they don't need Murkomen and RV views. Tangatanga were spoiling for a showdown in Nakuru.

Referendum it is, we just have to decide the date, says Haji
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Referendum-it-is--we-just-have-to-decide-date-Haji-/1064-5491450-gxju62/index.html

Very right. We are in parallel universes. Where I LIVE - raila losing like 5 times and absconding elections - makes him DOA in non-gema unless there are folks who enjoy losin and losin. Even the Luos here are tired.

You see in my universe - Ruto (with all his flaws) will compete with Raila (hated by GEMA to the hilt) - Kalonzo, MaDVD and Gideon - and frankly all opinions says its not even close.

The rest are details.

You are in a parallel universe.

First, Raila is doing way better than Ruto in non-Gema. Even with 100% Mt Kenya ala 2013-17 Ruto would still struggle against Raila.

Second, Mt Kenya are very dicey. Uhuru is going nowhere ergo Ruto is DOA in Gema. Those priests he has been giving blood-tithe can write him praise songs and it won't matter.

Ruto best chance was pre-Handshake. Now the odds are severely stark against him. You can tell this from his shaken deadbeat demeanor and body language.. as Uhuru and Raila have become so corky.

When the Prince is selling PORK in Saudi Arabia - even Robina can score brownie points.

The proper question is how long Ruto propaganda will help him? You cannot compete in Mt Kenya against the Gema prince. It a matter of time before fallacies like chiefs vetting raia fall flat.

[Nefertiti]

This forum is/was split 50-50 Jubilee vs CORD/NASA... when Jubilee was Uhuruto. But when it comes to Ruto for CEO - Jubilee sharply fizzle to mere Pundit and Garliv. I think you mean 5% of Jubilee are stuck with Ruto.

I rather be alone in my universes than suffer this.As always time is the best arbiter.95% of Jubilee..here or elsewhere are stuck with Ruto. Bitter reality..Raila Trojan horse is transparent and Jubilee have simply refused to play.Its upto Uhuru to decide when to pull the plug before the plug us pulled.Wait for BBI and referendum...in fact if it was to happen Ruto would win by some margins

You are alone in your universe. Right here on K.Mambo only Garliv agrees with your story. See - on one hand you say politicians follow the ground - on the other when said leaders all oppose Ruto so how does he have the ground? Logic, logic. For every one Barsitei there are 2 or 3 anti-Ruto views - even bitter, clueless Karua thinks he is the least qualified to be PORK. Likes of Mdvd are not sure of anything except that they will not be joining Ruto - you can google it -  imagine such a wish-washy safe-pair-hands bloke is sure of at least that one thing.

Of course no credible poll shows Ruto leading anything - except maybe those done before Uhuru 2.0 surfaced. If there is such a poll please share. If you do one now you will find vitu kwa ground ni different like Kibra.

... in related news - BBI wazee are busy compiling BBI 2.0 - seem they don't need Murkomen and RV views. Tangatanga were spoiling for a showdown in Nakuru.

Referendum it is, we just have to decide the date, says Haji
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Referendum-it-is--we-just-have-to-decide-date-Haji-/1064-5491450-gxju62/index.html

Very right. We are in parallel universes. Where I LIVE - raila losing like 5 times and absconding elections - makes him DOA in non-gema unless there are folks who enjoy losin and losin. Even the Luos here are tired.

You see in my universe - Ruto (with all his flaws) will compete with Raila (hated by GEMA to the hilt) - Kalonzo, MaDVD and Gideon - and frankly all opinions says its not even close.

The rest are details.

You are in a parallel universe.

First, Raila is doing way better than Ruto in non-Gema. Even with 100% Mt Kenya ala 2013-17 Ruto would still struggle against Raila.

Second, Mt Kenya are very dicey. Uhuru is going nowhere ergo Ruto is DOA in Gema. Those priests he has been giving blood-tithe can write him praise songs and it won't matter.

Ruto best chance was pre-Handshake. Now the odds are severely stark against him. You can tell this from his shaken deadbeat demeanor and body language.. as Uhuru and Raila have become so corky.

When the Prince is selling PORK in Saudi Arabia - even Robina can score brownie points.

The proper question is how long Ruto propaganda will help him? You cannot compete in Mt Kenya against the Gema prince. It a matter of time before fallacies like chiefs vetting raia fall flat.

[Nefertiti]

We can sample right here. Likes of Njamba, vooke, GeeMail were Uhuru diehards who now vehemently oppose Ruto. I wonder why? Scratch that, even I Robina was once pro-Ruto 2010-13. There have been mass defections - not joiners - from the Ruto bandwagon.