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Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« on: March 11, 2020, 07:16:58 PM »
They failed in 2010 or around...but now they think they can add kamanda to their 60 mps and get 2/3 mps required to impeach.

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2020, 07:21:48 PM »
Ruto is involved in too many sideshows. The man will be exhausted by 2022 when the real battle begins.

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2020, 07:37:06 PM »
Real battle started many years ago. That is why Ruto is where he is despite being about half Raila age :) and humble background. You gotta have passion and ambition to do this every day.
Ruto is involved in too many sideshows. The man will be exhausted by 2022 when the real battle begins.

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2020, 10:05:06 PM »
Ruto support is eroding real fast. His numbers are sliding real fast. At best I would give him 13% - 15% chance of seeing Ruto presidency. 2 weeks ago it was all about military scam in Ruto office, last week head of Ruto security murder and now this week Ruto impeachment....something somewhere will have to give....Ruto is a victim of bad advice and bad company.  End is near

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2020, 07:40:20 AM »
Of course ODM is aware they have no numbers for successful impeachment. But their aim to to humiliate, coerce, intimidate, silence and smear DP to the point of resigning. Or force him to do or say something 'stupid'. Its similar script try to pin Kenei murder on his office. And they still hope to erode his support base. This is a game ODM and its poltical henchmen can play from 1st January to 31st December without tiring.

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2020, 12:10:30 PM »
Precisely. I doubt they can even get 115 mps needed to start the process..leave alone 235 needed to pass in parliament and 45 in senate. This ODM coalition with Kibicho-Matiangi. What I cannot decipher is uhuru gameplan here.
Of course ODM is aware they have no numbers for successful impeachment. But their aim to to humiliate, coerce, intimidate, silence and smear DP to the point of resigning. Or force him to do or say something 'stupid'. Its similar script try to pin Kenei murder on his office. And they still hope to erode his support base. This is a game ODM and its poltical henchmen can play from 1st January to 31st December without tiring.

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2020, 08:33:48 PM »
They don't threaten or insult Ruto to impeach or jail him. Objective is to soil his reputation further which is well achieved.

It akin to Democrats impeaching Trump in the House while GOP has majority senators. The aim is not to win but expose his excesses or lack of integrity.
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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2020, 09:09:29 PM »
Like voters don't know Trump? How dumb? Ruto was elected while indicted by ICC. Those are lame strategies.The only strategy that will work are those you actually engage your brain.
They don't threaten or insult Ruto to impeach or jail him. Objective is to soil his reputation further which is well achieved.

It akin to Democrats impeaching Trump in the House while GOP has majority senators. The aim is not to win but expose his excesses or lack of integrity.

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2020, 09:12:41 PM »
Tangatanga equally know Uhuru will not dissolve cabinet and give ODM or NASA half. It mere posturing. Noone has 2/3 in either house it obvious - so who imagine Ruto will be impeached. Only CSs or appointees are impeachable by simple majority. Which Ruto of course chicken out.

Like voters don't know Trump? How dumb? Ruto was elected while indicted by ICC. Those are lame strategies.The only strategy that will work are those you actually engage your brain.
They don't threaten or insult Ruto to impeach or jail him. Objective is to soil his reputation further which is well achieved.

It akin to Democrats impeaching Trump in the House while GOP has majority senators. The aim is not to win but expose his excesses or lack of integrity.
♫♫ They say all good boys go to heaven... but bad boys bring heaven to you ~ song by Julia Michaels

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2020, 10:59:20 PM »
Uhuru has gone native, so to speak. He is not in his right frame of mind. He has surrendered to Raila. Note he did inform RV Governors he trusts Raila with BBI.
His plan is Raila and Raila. And of course expecting to be back as PM or something..

Am afraid these clowns will still make things worse. We are in for difficult times. 



Precisely. I doubt they can even get 115 mps needed to start the process..leave alone 235 needed to pass in parliament and 45 in senate. This ODM coalition with Kibicho-Matiangi. What I cannot decipher is uhuru gameplan here.
Of course ODM is aware they have no numbers for successful impeachment. But their aim to to humiliate, coerce, intimidate, silence and smear DP to the point of resigning. Or force him to do or say something 'stupid'. Its similar script try to pin Kenei murder on his office. And they still hope to erode his support base. This is a game ODM and its poltical henchmen can play from 1st January to 31st December without tiring.

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2020, 12:25:57 AM »
I refuse to believe Uhuru can be that dumb.I think it's case of keeping your enemy close.
Uhuru has gone native, so to speak. He is not in his right frame of mind. He has surrendered to Raila. Note he did inform RV Governors he trusts Raila with BBI.
His plan is Raila and Raila. And of course expecting to be back as PM or something..

Am afraid these clowns will still make things worse. We are in for difficult times. 



Precisely. I doubt they can even get 115 mps needed to start the process..leave alone 235 needed to pass in parliament and 45 in senate. This ODM coalition with Kibicho-Matiangi. What I cannot decipher is uhuru gameplan here.
Of course ODM is aware they have no numbers for successful impeachment. But their aim to to humiliate, coerce, intimidate, silence and smear DP to the point of resigning. Or force him to do or say something 'stupid'. Its similar script try to pin Kenei murder on his office. And they still hope to erode his support base. This is a game ODM and its poltical henchmen can play from 1st January to 31st December without tiring.

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2020, 10:33:17 AM »
Facts now speak for themselves. If its keeping his "enemy closer" what would be the point of taking the country to these extremes? For do not be in doubt, even DP Ruto body language communicate a man under siege..., real siege not make believe. And as some of us stated when we joined this blog, Uhuru/Raila groupings are damn serious to get rid of Ruto politically or any other way. Thank God, that the new constitution at least "protects" the Deputy President from being summarily arrested or dismissed  at will for truly Ruto would be mincemeat.
 
And all talk i have heard from Uhuru henchmen is not for people playing games: these idiots are full of confidence and how things are supposed to unfold. Unbridled arrogance as if they are guaranteed of their desired outcome. Raila strongmen have similar attitude. And yes, its so idiotic a plan that its hard for a seasoned political observer to believe Uhuru is serious. But he is!

A wave of open and total defiance is gathering pace in Mt. Kenya and other places since this Uhuru character haskii! Next time he will not face a handful of youngmen asking him "to salimia Ruto...", he will be chased like a dog. This is getting serious, if it wasn't!

I refuse to believe Uhuru can be that dumb.I think it's case of keeping your enemy close.

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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2020, 11:31:57 AM »
Where does a tiny omena like Garliv meet with Kibicho or Orengo to know what their masters are upto? This is just hearsay.
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Re: Impeach Ruto - only in ODM dreams
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2020, 12:34:57 PM »
He has entertained the idea..but he is smart enough not to test the depth of waters with both feet. Ruto in moto ya kuotea mbali. And you know I don't believe GEMA would do this for Raila. If they were to do this - I'd take Pajero ideas before that. This constitution is going to be real stopper...it hard to amend it...so these are just the motions.

I think Uhuru is on a slippery slope .. he thought it was a simple task..but now he is realizing he has to get dirty if he wants to fight Ruto.

And Ruto hasn't even started.

Facts now speak for themselves. If its keeping his "enemy closer" what would be the point of taking the country to these extremes? For do not be in doubt, even DP Ruto body language communicate a man under siege..., real siege not make believe. And as some of us stated when we joined this blog, Uhuru/Raila groupings are damn serious to get rid of Ruto politically or any other way. Thank God, that the new constitution at least "protects" the Deputy President from being summarily arrested or dismissed  at will for truly Ruto would be mincemeat.
 
And all talk i have heard from Uhuru henchmen is not for people playing games: these idiots are full of confidence and how things are supposed to unfold. Unbridled arrogance as if they are guaranteed of their desired outcome. Raila strongmen have similar attitude. And yes, its so idiotic a plan that its hard for a seasoned political observer to believe Uhuru is serious. But he is!

A wave of open and total defiance is gathering pace in Mt. Kenya and other places since this Uhuru character haskii! Next time he will not face a handful of youngmen asking him "to salimia Ruto...", he will be chased like a dog. This is getting serious, if it wasn't!

I refuse to believe Uhuru can be that dumb.I think it's case of keeping your enemy close.