Is it Uhuru or Matiangi or Waiguru or Raila or even Kalonzo or maDVD

[Nefertiti]

Pundit we been wondering aloud why Ruto crew cannot censure Matiang'i? He abuse power and undermine DP Ruto his senior - and many transgressions. Or Kibicho. I mean besides maintaining the laughable Jubilee tuko pamoja charade... they obviously have no numbers so save the embarrassment.

[RV Pundit]

Hiyo ndio inaitwo nuclear option. You should also wonder why Uhuru has not sacked Ruto crew in gov - executive and parliament. Ruto knows he has to respect Uhuru for GEMA sake. So most of time he will turn the other cheek. As long as Uhuru slaps are feeble. Moi got physically slapped and survived.

That big difference btw Ruto *who understudied Moi and Raila. Why get into a war with someone who is going home . That is wasting bonga points. Ruto remain laser-focused on Jakom - his main competitor.

And that is why Ruto is doing pretty well - he just need to survive 2020 - and 2021 - nobody will give a damn about Matiangi or Kibicho leave alone Uhuru. People will be look at new gov...the next decade.

Pundit we been wondering aloud why Ruto crew cannot censure Matiang'i? He abuse power and undermine DP Ruto his senior - and many transgressions. Or Kibicho. I mean besides maintaining the laughable Jubilee tuko pamoja charade... they obviously have no numbers so save the embarrassment.

[RV Pundit]

You don't need to be a mathematician to know Ruto enjoys the majority of MPs. Jubilee has 140 elected MPs and 30 women rep plus a few affiliated. That is nearly 200mps. Of that Kieleweke are 10.

If there is no hurdle in parliament - why not take BBI there and be done straight away.

You talking like there is anything called "Jubilee" with resolutions. It depends on NUMBERS - how many pro- and anti-BBI MPs are in the budet committee? Or HBC? Ruto does not have a majority - we know that. You been peddling that lie but what happened in Senate Waititu impeachment for example? Ruto could only master 11 vs 28 senators. There has been no standoff yet in parliament because Ruto knows he would come up short and be exposed. So he mainatain the lie of imaginary majority and fake Jubilee unity. Why approve Kagwes., Yattanis, Wavinyas for example? When they replace his fired crew.  He badly needs the unbwogable facade - which been crambling since the Kibra burukenge beating and is now being exposed in Central.

So... Ichung'wa is a minority in Handshake parliament. Budget will be done and passed easy peasy.

[Nefertiti]

Uhuru has not fired Ruto crew for sound reasons

1. Parliament Murkomen and Washialis - Ruto has a majority of Jubilee MPs but not Parliament. Party resolution is needed to replace them. If it was plenary motions they would be fired.

2. CSs, CASs, Ambassadors - they are loyal to Uhuru so no need to be fired. Being seconded by Ruto is not the issue but loyalty say in public speeches - for instance Kiunjuri showed loyalty to Ruto so he was kicked out. Obviously you can claim he was Uhuru man - which is nonsense. Rotich, Echesa, Adan of course were shown the door. CS are either openly pro-Handshake ala Matiang'i, Macharia, Mucheru or walk on eggs. Those that are apolitical such as ambassador it pointless to fire them.

3. En masse firing would give Ruto victim and outsider cards.. so even loyalists must be dealt by attrition as they "underperform" like Adan or graft like Rotich. Uhuru need excuse for strategic reason not fear of MAD.

Of course you accept Ruto is caged and cannot do MAD. But that restricted only to say openly insulting Uhuru like Murathes and Atwolis do to him. Cause he immediately lose Gema.. which sadly he is still losing anyway. Censuring Kibicho or rejecting Kagwe would not be nuclear - mere soft punches - Ruto cannot do it cause no numbers.

The Waititu matter you cannot explain away.. numbers 101.

Hiyo ndio inaitwo nuclear option. You should also wonder why Uhuru has not sacked Ruto crew in gov - executive and parliament. Ruto knows he has to respect Uhuru for GEMA sake. So most of time he will turn the other cheek. As long as Uhuru slaps are feeble. Moi got physically slapped and survived.

That big difference btw Ruto *who understudied Moi and Raila. Why get into a war with someone who is going home . That is wasting bonga points. Ruto remain laser-focused on Jakom - his main competitor.

And that is why Ruto is doing pretty well - he just need to survive 2020 - and 2021 - nobody will give a damn about Matiangi or Kibicho leave alone Uhuru. People will be look at new gov...the next decade.

[gout]

There are suicidal differences between Moi's 70s succession and Ruto' current battles. We give Moi too much credit for the 70s succession.

Moi had a senile Jomo prodding him or a Jomo who was just ignoring the Kiambu Mafia's poison. Njonjo who was also a key cog in the Kiambu mafia was Moi's babysitter.

Ruto is having to contend with a fair weather though drunk sailor who is entertaining the too young to retire nonsense; resurrected Raila; an overzealous Matiang'i/Kibicho mob; weaponized ODPP& DCI; nosediving economy. Ruto's key weapon is that his thuggish opponents stick to the constitution and play by the rule for the numbers to count.

[Nefertiti]

So how many senators does Ruto control for example? Of 10 Mt Kenya senators 5 are Kieleweke - that half. Jubilee MPs are maybe 60% Ruto... 10% noisy Kieleweke - the rest are quietly Handshake when push come to shove. Ruto 60% Jubilee comes to 120. NASA is Handshake except Jumwa and Jicho Pevu.

You don't need to be a mathematician to know Ruto enjoys the majority of MPs. Jubilee has 140 elected MPs and 30 women rep plus a few affiliated. That is nearly 200mps. Of that Kieleweke are 10.

If there is no hurdle in parliament - why not take BBI there and be done straight away.

[RV Pundit]

There are suicidal differences between Moi's 70s succession and Ruto' current battles. We give Moi too much credit for the 70s succession.

Moi had a senile Jomo prodding him or a Jomo who was just ignoring the Kiambu Mafia's poison. Njonjo who was also a key cog in the Kiambu mafia was Moi's babysitter.

Ruto is having to contend with a fair weather though drunk sailor who is entertaining the too young to retire nonsense; resurrected Raila; an overzealous Matiang'i/Kibicho mob; weaponized ODPP& DCI; nosediving economy. Ruto's key weapon is that his thuggish opponents stick to the constitution and play by the rule for the numbers to count.

Mbuyu Koinange was Jomo brother in law and Magana was Kenyatta nephew both powerful and educated kiambu mafia who wanted Moi out.GEMA was led by illeterates but backed by kiambu mafia.It wasn't easy.Ask Tom Mboya or JM kariuku.Moi had to play the patience game like Ruto is playing.You cannot trip.Now Ruto battle is easy...very easy..only Raila knows politics..Uhuru,Matiangi and crew don't.Ruto has to play nice for another year and then take the battle...in any case Ruto has long prepared for this..so it actually easy than you think..if you ignore tall theories about Uhuru executive pork..and focus on Uhuru padding his retirement check...and quietly leaving folks to dry..as the most plausible theory

[RV Pundit]

Uhuru has not fired Ruto crew for sound reasons

1. Parliament Murkomen and Washialis - Ruto has a majority of Jubilee MPs but not Parliament. Party resolution is needed to replace them. If it was plenary motions they would be fired.

2. CSs, CASs, Ambassadors - they are loyal to Uhuru so no need to be fired. Being seconded by Ruto is not the issue but loyalty say in public speeches - for instance Kiunjuri showed loyalty to Ruto so he was kicked out. Obviously you can claim he was Uhuru man - which is nonsense. Rotich, Echesa, Adan of course were shown the door. CS are either openly pro-Handshake ala Matiang'i, Macharia, Mucheru or walk on eggs. Those that are apolitical such as ambassador it pointless to fire them.

3. En masse firing would give Ruto victim and outsider cards.. so even loyalists must be dealt by attrition as they "underperform" like Adan or graft like Rotich. Uhuru need excuse for strategic reason not fear of MAD.

Of course you accept Ruto is caged and cannot do MAD. But that restricted only to say openly insulting Uhuru like Murathes and Atwolis do to him. Cause he immediately lose Gema.. which sadly he is still losing anyway. Censuring Kibicho or rejecting Kagwe would not be nuclear - mere soft punches - Ruto cannot do it cause no numbers.

The Waititu matter you cannot explain away.. numbers 101.

Hiyo ndio inaitwo nuclear option. You should also wonder why Uhuru has not sacked Ruto crew in gov - executive and parliament. Ruto knows he has to respect Uhuru for GEMA sake. So most of time he will turn the other cheek. As long as Uhuru slaps are feeble. Moi got physically slapped and survived.

That big difference btw Ruto *who understudied Moi and Raila. Why get into a war with someone who is going home . That is wasting bonga points. Ruto remain laser-focused on Jakom - his main competitor.

And that is why Ruto is doing pretty well - he just need to survive 2020 - and 2021 - nobody will give a damn about Matiangi or Kibicho leave alone Uhuru. People will be look at new gov...the next decade.

long spin..C's Adan Mohammed still a minister.Rotich is Uhuru man.Kiunjuri n Echesa have been fired...and replaced by my clans woman Betty Maina and Kagwe.We agreed that if BBI has nothing on executive pm then theory of Uhuru trying to run again falls flat. We know from Bomas it didn't.We now wait for obvious because nobody has asked for executive pm except drunkard Atwoli and murathe.political punditry is that easy.Start adjusting your theories.It appears if BBI 2.0 has nothing substantial for Uhuru then Uhuru is stringing along Raila with fake war against Ruto.It kill two birds with one stone by pitying Raila against Ruto so you eat in peace and occasionally throw them a bone when they are about to stop.That to me is the game here.Eventually he will slide away with 10% of Kenya budget the next 5yrs and leave you to fight your wars.He certainly ain't going back to Hague for nobody.

[Nefertiti]

Do you know how many theories you have? You must lose track now and then. At least mine is a constant. You  can say BBI 1 flopped but almost immediately they kick-started 2. Nothing to concede.

They are playing Raila bla bla. Now it Uhuru retirement package.

The stops Uhuru is pulling to uproot Ruto from the mountain remain a big indicator. No PEV will occur cause Uhuru 2.0. PEV was enabled by non-Gema unity where Luo provide political cover for Kalenjin warriors. Raila or Ruto on each their own cannot manage that without serious quences for themselves.

[RV Pundit]

I came up with your copy-paste BBI theory way back in 2017. You know I have studied your politicians. Your BBI has no legs to stand on because 1) BBI 1.0 and 2) I haven't seen anybody calling for it - ODM Raila got distracted by the crowds he has attracted from Kisii to Kakamega to name it - and abandoned it That is Raila for you. He pressured Uhuru to do BBI 2.0 validation and Uhuru agreed - and when crowds got excited - Raila's ODM got greedy and want the entire thing - PORK (head of gov and state).

It will be pure magic if Yusuf Haji pulls it from his camels in Ijara .  If Uhuru wants it - now is the time to ask it. He will ask it through his mouthpieces.

My theories -  On Uhuru gameplan.

2016 - when URP & TNA merged into Jubilee - I saw it a strong coupling that meant Uhuru & mt Kenya were now ready to have Ruto as pork. The marriage had been consummated.
2017 - When I saw role Kiunjuri played in the famous purge against Mt Kenya old guards and Uhuru prevailing him not to stand - I thought they had made a deal.
2018 - When Uhuru appointed cabinet without reference to Ruto and even seem to dropped Kiunjuri - I thought he wasn't planning to retire.
2018 - When handshake happen - I thought he was playing Raila so he just stopped demos - but he won't get into gov. That theory still holds.
2019 - When BBI gathered steam - I thought Uhuru was entertaining a bad idea of executive PM. When BBI 1.0 was unleashed - that theory cease to hold. 
2020 - We are seeing even ODM  who called for this BBI 2.0 - actually abandoning BBI 2.0 and nobody else has suggested this executive PM. Not even MaDVD or Kalonzo.
2020 - June you'll get BBI 2.0. If it similar to BBI 1.0 - then for sure - Uhuru will be retiring.
2020 - We will then have two theories going forward - Pajero/Waiguru theory that Mt Kenya will present their candidate - or Ruto will get Uhuru backing as promised.

Too many theories. Kichwa and Robina will think until election day that Uhuru is preparing the way for Joshua.

Do you know how many theories you have? You must lose track now and then. At least mine is a constant. You  can say BBI 1 flopped but almost immediately they kick-started 2. Nothing to concede.

They are playing Raila bla bla. Now it Uhuru retirement package. The stops Uhuru is pulling to uproot Ruto from the mountain remain a big indicator. No PEV will occur cause Uhuru 2.0. PEV was enabled by non-Gema unity where Luo provide political cover for Kalenjin warriors. Raila or Ruto on each their own cannot manage that without serious quences for themselves.

[Nefertiti]

You underrate Raila and Uhuru even more. They are not fools  in fact Uhuru play his cards stealthily while everyone knows Ruto's plan. Now he has been edged out of most non-Gema and desperately need the mountain. It a fight to the death for him literally.

Now, if Raila has abandoned parliamentary why would Uhuru still pull stops for him. All those governors Raila has no wherewithal to deploy them so hard. Or intimidate them as you allege.

Simple: uprooting Ruto from Gema is key.  So the Gema fears must be assuaged. So after the farmer goodies now one-man-one-vote one-shilling, elected PORK is head of state and govt, youth to be purged from CRB, etc - are suddenly top on the BBI agenda and Raila unwittingly plays along. Obviously it a sleight of hand to blindside Ruto. Poof! the wind is gone from Tangatanga sail.

I told you the Queen of England is an absolute monarch. C-in-C, veto powers, spiritual leader. But in reality PM must be appointed from the majority party or coalition - she merely "appoints" him on paper. PM appoints and runs cabinet and is the de facto head of UK govt. So of course some layman will say the Windsors are a monarchy - same as Manzil al Saud - but in fact Britain is effectively a parliamentary system wrapped in Lords, Dukes, Sirs and pompous gold- plated antiques.

In BBI 2, ceremonial PORK will be elected as head of state, govt, C-in-C, etc. He then name PM from largest party or coalition. PM name and run cabinet. Tobe fired by 2/3. Boom! Gema and all are happy as Ruto go home high and dry.

I came up with your copy-paste BBI theory way back in 2017. You know I have studied your politicians. Your BBI has no legs to stand on because 1) BBI 1.0 and 2) I haven't seen anybody calling for it - ODM Raila got distracted by the crowds he has attracted from Kisii to Kakamega to name it - and abandoned it That is Raila for you. He pressured Uhuru to do BBI 2.0 validation and Uhuru agreed - and when crowds got excited - Raila's ODM got greedy and want the entire thing - PORK (head of gov and state).

It will be pure magic if Yusuf Haji pulls it from his camels in Ijara .  If Uhuru wants it - now is the time to ask it. He will ask it through his mouthpieces.

Lots of guesswork. From Raila and Ruto cards - Uhuru cards are ignored. Where is the factoring of the heavy lifting? In BBI 1 parliamentary was deferred to create window to counter Ruto propaganda. Kuria, Kioni, Gachagua were fever-pitch with Gema are being short-changed. In Nov to now Uhuru has fired Kiunjuri, Waititu, etc and lined up Kiraitus proper. He is done this fairly successfully.

Meantime Raila has lined up non-Gema - again with Uhuru help. Lenkus and Matiang'is and Mdvds are cajoled by Uhuru obviously. In Kakamega they said Uhuru personally pressured Mdvd and Weta to attend. Broke Kalonzo get bribed with Muthoka handouts and Wavinya CAS and parastatal chairmen for his cronies.

My theory remains the same. I am impressed by the smart strategy to deal with Ruto propaganda ala parliamentary. Once Gema back BBI - more MPs, more cash - it pipedream to get them back. Ruto will face Uhuru-Raila combo which will be worse than NARC vs Kanu.

My theories -  On Uhuru gameplan.

2016 - when URP & TNA merged into Jubilee - I saw it a strong coupling that meant Uhuru & mt Kenya were now ready to have Ruto as pork. The marriage had been consummated.
2017 - When I saw role Kiunjuri played in the famous purge against Mt Kenya old guards and Uhuru prevailing him not to stand - I thought they had made a deal.
2018 - When Uhuru appointed cabinet without reference to Ruto and even seem to dropped Kiunjuri - I thought he wasn't planning to retire.
2018 - When handshake happen - I thought he was playing Raila so he just stopped demos - but he won't get into gov. That theory still holds.
2019 - When BBI gathered steam - I thought Uhuru was entertaining a bad idea of executive PM. When BBI 1.0 was unleashed - that theory cease to hold. 
2020 - We are seeing even ODM  who called for this BBI 2.0 - actually abandoning BBI 2.0 and nobody else has suggested this executive PM. Not even MaDVD or Kalonzo.
2020 - June you'll get BBI 2.0. If it similar to BBI 1.0 - then for sure - Uhuru will be retiring.
2020 - We will then have two theories going forward - Pajero/Waiguru theory that Mt Kenya will present their candidate - or Ruto will get Uhuru backing as promised.

Hubris is not a strategy. Pundit just as Ruto is Regular Joe riding out his luck.

Too many theories. Kichwa and Robina will think until election day that Uhuru is preparing the way for Joshua.

[RV Pundit]

So in summary you're saying BBI 2.0 aka parliamentary system is still on course. I ask you again - come June 2020 - 3 months from now - when it doesn't happen. What will be your new theory or spin?

After Raila who cried for BBI 2.0 and restarted this campaigns for BBI 2.0 abandoned it - your new spin is why is Uhuru supporting BBI 2.0?
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-29-jitters-in-odm-as-raila-abandons-reform-agenda/

Uhuru "support" BBI 1.0 - nothing suggest so far that he is support BBI 2.0 - and of course he is a system - some of his people are threatening governors to back BBI - those are likes of Matiangi and Kibicho with their own succession plans.

Again it very easy. Tell us - we get to June - there is no parliamentary - we have PORK as head of state and gov - what will be the new desperation?

Will you give Uhuru another 2yrs free ride in the hope he will endorse Raila for non-Ceremonial PORK and take Duale current job

Or you''ll describe the new system parliamentary anyway because it has PM

The spin that Uhuru hid some cards to later disclose in six months is crazy - Uhuru had no such plans - he is no Machievelli

Raila and Atwolis (Uhuru orphans) were unhappy - and put pressure for another BBI 2.0 validation for another six months ride.

Uhuru says game on - lets enjoy the ride. I am sure even in June - he will find something to extend the honeymoon with Raila - and then like Kibaki in 2013 - he will leave him to be devoured.

As long as people are engrossed in BBI - Uhuru is very happy. He stays under water - feasting. Once in a while he emerges and ask governors to listen to Raila and keep the reggae playing

You underrate Raila and Uhuru even more. They are not fools  in fact Uhuru play his cards stealthily while everyone knows Ruto's plan. Now he has been edged out of most non-Gema and desperately need the mountain. It a fight to the death for him literally.

Now, if Raila has abandoned parliamentary why would Uhuru still pull stops for him. All those governors Raila has no wherewithal to deploy them so hard. Or intimidate them as you allege.

Simple: uprooting Ruto from Gema is key.  So the Gema fears must be assuaged. So after the farmer goodies now one-man-one-vote one-shilling, elected PORK is head of state and govt, youth to be purged from CRB, etc - are suddenly top on the BBI agenda and Raila unwittingly plays along. Obviously it a sleight of hand to blindside Ruto. Poof! the wind is gone from Tangatanga sail.

I told you the Queen of England is an absolute monarch. C-in-C, veto powers, spiritual leader. But in reality PM must be appointed from the majority party or coalition - she merely "appoints" him on paper. PM appoints and runs cabinet and is the de facto head of UK govt. So of course some layman will say the Windsors are a monarchy - same as Manzil al Saud - but in fact Britain is effectively a parliamentary system wrapped in Lords, Dukes, Sirs and pompous gold- plated antiques.

In BBI 2, ceremonial PORK will be elected as head of state, govt, C-in-C, etc. He then name PM from largest party or coalition. PM name and run cabinet. Tobe fired by 2/3. Boom! Gema and all are happy as Ruto go home high and dry.

I came up with your copy-paste BBI theory way back in 2017. You know I have studied your politicians. Your BBI has no legs to stand on because 1) BBI 1.0 and 2) I haven't seen anybody calling for it - ODM Raila got distracted by the crowds he has attracted from Kisii to Kakamega to name it - and abandoned it That is Raila for you. He pressured Uhuru to do BBI 2.0 validation and Uhuru agreed - and when crowds got excited - Raila's ODM got greedy and want the entire thing - PORK (head of gov and state).

It will be pure magic if Yusuf Haji pulls it from his camels in Ijara .  If Uhuru wants it - now is the time to ask it. He will ask it through his mouthpieces.

Lots of guesswork. From Raila and Ruto cards - Uhuru cards are ignored. Where is the factoring of the heavy lifting? In BBI 1 parliamentary was deferred to create window to counter Ruto propaganda. Kuria, Kioni, Gachagua were fever-pitch with Gema are being short-changed. In Nov to now Uhuru has fired Kiunjuri, Waititu, etc and lined up Kiraitus proper. He is done this fairly successfully.

Meantime Raila has lined up non-Gema - again with Uhuru help. Lenkus and Matiang'is and Mdvds are cajoled by Uhuru obviously. In Kakamega they said Uhuru personally pressured Mdvd and Weta to attend. Broke Kalonzo get bribed with Muthoka handouts and Wavinya CAS and parastatal chairmen for his cronies.

My theory remains the same. I am impressed by the smart strategy to deal with Ruto propaganda ala parliamentary. Once Gema back BBI - more MPs, more cash - it pipedream to get them back. Ruto will face Uhuru-Raila combo which will be worse than NARC vs Kanu.

My theories -  On Uhuru gameplan.

2016 - when URP & TNA merged into Jubilee - I saw it a strong coupling that meant Uhuru & mt Kenya were now ready to have Ruto as pork. The marriage had been consummated.
2017 - When I saw role Kiunjuri played in the famous purge against Mt Kenya old guards and Uhuru prevailing him not to stand - I thought they had made a deal.
2018 - When Uhuru appointed cabinet without reference to Ruto and even seem to dropped Kiunjuri - I thought he wasn't planning to retire.
2018 - When handshake happen - I thought he was playing Raila so he just stopped demos - but he won't get into gov. That theory still holds.
2019 - When BBI gathered steam - I thought Uhuru was entertaining a bad idea of executive PM. When BBI 1.0 was unleashed - that theory cease to hold. 
2020 - We are seeing even ODM  who called for this BBI 2.0 - actually abandoning BBI 2.0 and nobody else has suggested this executive PM. Not even MaDVD or Kalonzo.
2020 - June you'll get BBI 2.0. If it similar to BBI 1.0 - then for sure - Uhuru will be retiring.
2020 - We will then have two theories going forward - Pajero/Waiguru theory that Mt Kenya will present their candidate - or Ruto will get Uhuru backing as promised.

Hubris is not a strategy. Pundit just as Ruto is Regular Joe riding out his luck.

Too many theories. Kichwa and Robina will think until election day that Uhuru is preparing the way for Joshua.

[Nefertiti]

Your explanation of the heavy lifting is implausible. Why not just cash desperate Ruto 50% cheque? It nonsense that somehow Ruto without Handshake stop him from feasting... which big ticket projects is Uhuru feasting from? What stop Ruto thru Kurias from exposing him?

You can't quote retarded Star analyst to decipher Uhuru cards. Uhuru is a chameleon - Machiavelli in fact - who praise Ruto as ndugu yangu the greatest deputy while planning Handshake and Uhuru 2.0 all along.

BBI 2.0 - it will have fake hybrid to fool Gema. With PORK as C-in-C, "head" of state and govt, "appoints" PM from largest party. PM appoints and runs cabinet and can be "fired" by PORK but only if 2/3 MPs agree. Effectively the Queen of England complete with pompous mansions, potraits and crowns. That is the standard parliamentary system - symbolic power held by PORK while the PM and parliament  run the show.

Let's see in June. The Star will troll us with shallow nonsense but we can decipher the real power here. If we can at least be honest.

[RV Pundit]

I see you're already looking for a soft landing and will describe the hybrid system as parliamentary.
the kind of desperation we've come to expect from you and Raila.So GEMA will elect Raila as pork who will be head of gov and state so he can later appoint Uhuru as glorified Duale.Crazy thoughts.In meantime seem treasury have no plans for referendum soon... according to their policy paper.

[Nefertiti]

BBI 2.0 will be a written report and referendum bill  we can all read - no need for spin on either our parts. We can objectively tell pure presidential, proper hybrid or fake hybrid (parliamentary). Just as we can objectively tell Uhurutopia and Jubilee is dead as dodo. Let wait.

Also, if it fake hybrid (parliamentary) Uhuru will gun for PM... by becoming Handshake Party Leader. He obviously won't go for Duale job.

[RV Pundit]

I see you're already planning to continue with reggae till Ruto is sworn in 2022. I knew you'd change the definition as it become obviously parliamentary was out. Now let try proper hybrid but I will also take fake hybrid. My head is already spinning - are in BBI 4.0 already.

Okay let us be clear...I don't see a referendum happening. It's not in Uhuru interest to hold one just like it's not in his interest to become Duale. He is not as desperate as you or Raila.

What is in Uhuru best interest is to steal as much as he can now and leave a good enough legacy - then retire - and remain respected grand thief like his father.

If he allows BBI regae to graduate to a referendum - then politicking will not stop soon - and he won't be able to steal silently - because he'd have to actual make a move.

If referendum happen before 2022 - and GEMA don't support Ruto side - then 2022 will be like 2007 - full blown war in rift valley.Kalenjin are happy to let Uhuru play as long as he does move the cheese. He calls a referendum - and it either two ways - he convinced GEMA and he raptures the peace in RV (And the amigos will be back to ICC as Raila rules.)- he fails and GEMA vote with RV - and he is GONE like Moi (rejected and dejected).

So you don't want that to happen...so BBI if I am not wrong will be allowed for everyone to express their idiotic ideas....pressure releases....and make all sorts of resolutions..and eventually like the rest of reports...SHELVED.

BBI 2.0 will be a written report and referendum bill  we can all read - no need for spin on either our parts. We can objectively tell pure presidential, proper hybrid or fake hybrid (parliamentary). Just as we can objectively tell Uhurutopia and Jubilee is dead as dodo. Let wait.
Also, if it fake hybrid (parliamentary) Uhuru will gun for PM... by becoming Handshake Party Leader. He obviously won't go for Duale job.

[Nefertiti]

OBJECTIVES

1. Presidential - status quo or BBI 1 with token PM (Duale) - what ODM proposed last week. PORK appoints  and fires PM and cabinet.
2. Hybrid proper - PM is appointed and fired by PORK but PM appoints, runs and fires cabinet.
3. Parliamentary (fake hybrid) - PM is majority leader. Appoints, runs and fires cabinet. Fired by 2/3.

PORK would be C-in-C every time. For parliamentary the title of "head of state and govt" is a gift wrapper for Wanjiku and Pundit - meaningless without the meat or context.

If there will be no referendum we will also know soon enough. Uhuru best interest is to continue as CEO - Exec PM.

I see you're already planning to continue with reggae till Ruto is sworn in 2022. I knew you'd change the definition as it become obviously parliamentary was out. Now let try proper hybrid but I will also take fake hybrid. My head is already spinning - are in BBI 4.0 already.

Okay let us be clear...I don't see a referendum happening. It's not in Uhuru interest to hold one just like it's not in his interest to become Duale. He is not as desperate as you or Raila.

What is in Uhuru best interest is to steal as much as he can now and leave a good enough legacy - then retire - and remain respected grand thief like his father.

If he allows BBI regae to graduate to a referendum - then politicking will not stop soon - and he won't be able to steal silently - because he'd have to actual make a move.

Lol. There will be no PEV 2 - Ruto may be as desperate as Pundit but not stupid or suicidal. It would be a golden shower for Uhuru but especially Raila. Not happening.

If referendum happen before 2022 - and GEMA don't support Ruto side - then 2022 will be like 2007 - full blown war in rift valley.Kalenjin are happy to let Uhuru play as long as he does move the cheese. He calls a referendum - and it either two ways - he convinced GEMA and he raptures the peace in RV (And the amigos will be back to ICC as Raila rules.)- he fails and GEMA vote with RV - and he is GONE like Moi (rejected and dejected).

So you don't want that to happen...so BBI if I am not wrong will be allowed for everyone to express their idiotic ideas....pressure releases....and make all sorts of resolutions..and eventually like the rest of reports...SHELVED.

[Nefertiti]

High Court throws out Ekuru Aukot petition to disband BBI team
https://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/BBI-team-valid-court-rules/1950946-5478318-9jb3utz/index.html

[RV Pundit]

Okay let's be clear - nobody is calling for hybrid of any sort - fake or proper - except Duale. All of them are clear in their submission. PORK will remain head of state and gov. PORK will appoint all ministers including prime ministers. Prime minister will be a glorified Duale - majority leader in parliament who also sits in cabinet - but really has no portfolio - neither can he fire or suspend cabinet - will just have
fake supervisory and coordinating role. I am not even sure if he will chair cabinet.

I don't think Ruto or Uhuru can control the genie (tribal clashes) once it out. It like trying to control the soon inevitable clashes btw Kipsisigs and Maasai. It will happen. It just a matter of what trigger
its.

So the Amigos bet make sure the genie is not out. It will be out once a typical kalenjin and Kikuyu are going at each other online like here.  Then leaders will be going against each other at all levels. And

OBJECTIVES

1. Presidential - status quo or BBI 1 with token PM (Duale) - what ODM proposed last week. PORK appoints  and fires PM and cabinet.
2. Hybrid proper - PM is appointed and fired by PORK but PM appoints, runs and fires cabinet.
3. Parliamentary (fake hybrid) - PM is majority leader. Appoints, runs and fires cabinet. Fired by 2/3.

PORK would be C-in-C every time. For parliamentary the title of "head of state and govt" is a gift wrapper for Wanjiku and Pundit - meaningless without the meat or context.

If there will be no referendum we will also know soon enough. Uhuru best interest is to continue as CEO - Exec PM.

I see you're already planning to continue with reggae till Ruto is sworn in 2022. I knew you'd change the definition as it become obviously parliamentary was out. Now let try proper hybrid but I will also take fake hybrid. My head is already spinning - are in BBI 4.0 already.

Okay let us be clear...I don't see a referendum happening. It's not in Uhuru interest to hold one just like it's not in his interest to become Duale. He is not as desperate as you or Raila.

What is in Uhuru best interest is to steal as much as he can now and leave a good enough legacy - then retire - and remain respected grand thief like his father.

If he allows BBI regae to graduate to a referendum - then politicking will not stop soon - and he won't be able to steal silently - because he'd have to actual make a move.

Lol. There will be no PEV 2 - Ruto may be as desperate as Pundit but not stupid or suicidal. It would be a golden shower for Uhuru but especially Raila. Not happening.

If referendum happen before 2022 - and GEMA don't support Ruto side - then 2022 will be like 2007 - full blown war in rift valley.Kalenjin are happy to let Uhuru play as long as he does move the cheese. He calls a referendum - and it either two ways - he convinced GEMA and he raptures the peace in RV (And the amigos will be back to ICC as Raila rules.)- he fails and GEMA vote with RV - and he is GONE like Moi (rejected and dejected).

So you don't want that to happen...so BBI if I am not wrong will be allowed for everyone to express their idiotic ideas....pressure releases....and make all sorts of resolutions..and eventually like the rest of reports...SHELVED.

[Nefertiti]

Those calls for BBI 1 are strategy to assuage Gema. Including one-man one-vote and the youth welfare they plagiarized from Tangatanga in Naivasha. They are running away with Tangatanga ball and once they nail them, Exec PM will fly under the radar of elected PORK as head of state and govt. We know BBI is choreographed with predetermined outcome. Uhuru parrots - Murathe, Atwoli - are still telling us he is going to be PM. But his bigger mouthpieces have switched to BB1 because it is key to assuage Mt Kenya.

Your take that Raila greed after watching BBI crowds is the reason is implausible. Because he needs Uhuru and cannot betray him and lose vantage point against Ruto. He has outdone himself in kowtowing to Uhuru I don't see him messing it that easy. Uhuru is behind all the sudden change of tune by ODM and shebang - esp Raila seeming to embrace one-man one-vote.

This is last minute jujitsu move by Obama that propped Biden. Uhuru is playing a good game and your boy is in trouble.


PEV - I don't think peace in RV or Ruto ambition is more useful than democracy. If it spontaneous or unsponsored by the elite then those warriors or Mungiki would be mere murderers and will hang on their own. Ruto wouldn't go back to ICC if he didn't engineer it. Kalenjin would not have the Raila non-Gema support that forced Kibaki to accept NARA. They would be isolated and face political, legal and police backlash. In short PEV 2 is a losing card for Ruto.