ODM alone with Robina on executive pm and regional gov

[Nefertiti]

I did read that... they want hybrid with PM fired by 2/3 MPs and not PORK. Of course we know who control BBI.

[Garliv]

And did you notice Raila went to Murang'a and claimed that BBI is not meant to make Uhuru the PM?
Of you did read something from that. Because if Uhuru being PM was popular in Mt. Kenya Raila would have shouted from rooftops. Even him understand Uhuru backyard are not for Executive PM or whoever.

Take Note.

I did read that... they want hybrid with PM fired by 2/3 MPs and not PORK. Of course we know who control BBI.

[RV Pundit]

BBI 2.0 is unpopular. These issues were canvassed in 90s and 20s. We couldn't agree on 3 tier regional gov. We cannot agree now. Kenyans will never ALLOW MPS to elect their executive ANYTHING. Never gonna happen. Parliamentary forget like your forgot your mother's breast milk (a popular kalenjin saying).

Conclusion...BBI 1.0 is great...pass it already otherwise NONE OF IT will pass.

I did read that... they want hybrid with PM fired by 2/3 MPs and not PORK. Of course we know who control BBI.

[Nefertiti]

Good for the goose... bad for the gander. Kiraitu literally asked Ruto and Linturi to keep off

All set for Meru BBI rally as Raila hosts Mt Kenya governors



https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-25-all-set-for-meru-bbi-rally-as-raila-hosts-mt-kenya-governors/

[Nefertiti]

Pundit your boy is flying into serious headwinds... if this doesn't make it clear to you on Uhuru intentions you're just an ostrich. We long gave up on waiting for your MAD as all your redlines were breached.

Uhuru men, tycoons plot to kick Ruto out of Mt Kenya

Waiguru, an influential Mt Kenya figure in the BBI campaign, declared that the push to expand the executive — opposed by Ruto camp — would benefit the region by handing Uhuru a powerful role in 2022.

“Tujipange (Let us plan) so that we don't have a time when the reign of the country will go outside the House of Mumbi,” Waiguru told the Safari Park meeting.

Waiguru told the meeting that President Uhuru Kenyatta had mooted the BBI idea to benefit the community after the next polls.

“The President had seen far but because he is the President, he could not stand up and tell you that he was looking for things for you in BBI (sic),” Waiguru said.

She declared that the region's kingpin will remain President Uhuru even after the 2022 polls.

“We would like to tell Moi's people (Rift Valley) we as the Kikuyu, Embu and Meru we have one leader called Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta and he is the one who will show us the way to go,” Munga said.

Nyandarua Governor Francis Kimemia said Mt Kenya is united under President Uhuru, the de facto leader of the region.

Kimemia, who also attended the Safari Park Hotel meeting on Monday night, said the region had agreed on a couple of economic and political issues that will be presented to the BBI rally on February 29.

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-26-uhuru-men-tycoons-plot-to-kick-ruto-out-of-mt-kenya/

[Garliv]

Wachana na Kiraitu. He knows where Meru stands on this BBI thing. Probably the only genuine person there is Waiguru because as Sweetheart, she has to defend her boyfriend (maybe ex?) And she knows he won't be back as Kirinyaga Governor. She insisted on supporting Uhuru and bad mouthing Ruto and that has sealed her political fate.

TangaTanga mulling some "show of force" whereby 200MPs turns out to that Meru BBI. And if Ruto makes a show (as ground is demanding) then ndio utaona popularity contest kati ya Raila na Ruto in Meru.
Kiraitu is trying to avoid a showdown. He doesn't want EACC And DCI visiting him.

Wait and see.

Good for the goose... bad for the gander. Kiraitu literally asked Ruto and Linturi to keep off

All set for Meru BBI rally as Raila hosts Mt Kenya governors



https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-25-all-set-for-meru-bbi-rally-as-raila-hosts-mt-kenya-governors/

[Nefertiti]

Garliv, everyone who disagrees with Ruto or supports BBI has not been intimidated. That's ostrich syndrome. What has intimidated the senators? Kang'ata, Effy Maina, Ndwiga and most of them are pro- BBI.

Pundit is AWOL of course 

[RV Pundit]

Governors long became official biatches of gov. That is why Sonko did honourable thing and handed Nairobi to Uhuru. I blame Judiciary moronic ruling. A governor should only be removed through impeachment and constitution provision - not suspended by Judiciary. The rest of governors need to also waive the white flag and line up in statehouse - and sign off their duties. Either way they are done. Because you have to appease the ground and appease harambee house. Two difficult choices.

Garliv, everyone who disagrees with Ruto or supports BBI has not been intimidated. That's ostrich syndrome. What has intimidated the senators? Kang'ata, Effy Maina, Ndwiga and most of them are pro- BBI.

Pundit is AWOL of course 

[Garliv]

For one Robina, people have realised that the officially unveiled BBI is not exactly what Raila/Uhuru team is talking about. A lot of confusion has set in. And now most people view BBI as "kupiga Ruto.." Even yourself you admit as much.

Second, am telling you there has been a lot of intimidation And Governors are the most affected. There was a time Kiraitu had planned to host Ruto at Meru. Then allover sudden media started publishing some financial misdeeds of Meru County. Kiraitu did the survival instincts and went quite. When Ruto made it to Meru Kiraitu purposely was not present but he had everything organised for Ruto.

Then after Narok BBI Rally even most ardent supporters of BBI are at a loss how to explain this animal called BBI. Cause it doesn't look as if uniting anyone. And if you know Kenya and its ethnic suspicion then you should realise a lot of negativity was generated by that Narok rally. For us who are against BBI machinations we wouldn't have found a better wrecking ball than Ole Kina.

Garliv, everyone who disagrees with Ruto or supports BBI has not been intimidated. That's ostrich syndrome. What has intimidated the senators? Kang'ata, Effy Maina, Ndwiga and most of them are pro- BBI.

Pundit is AWOL of course 

[Nefertiti]

Please explain why half Mt Kenya senators have defected to Kieleweke?

Secondly, all the mobilization of these governors, senators, CSs, businessmen, etc - says what about Uhuru intentions with BBI? Or this is not a major event 

Governors long became official biatches of gov. That is why Sonko did honourable thing and handed Nairobi to Uhuru. I blame Judiciary moronic ruling. A governor should only be removed through impeachment and constitution provision - not suspended by Judiciary. The rest of governors need to also waive the white flag and line up in statehouse - and sign off their duties. Either way they are done. Because you have to appease the ground and appease harambee house. Two difficult choices.

Garliv, everyone who disagrees with Ruto or supports BBI has not been intimidated. That's ostrich syndrome. What has intimidated the senators? Kang'ata, Effy Maina, Ndwiga and most of them are pro- BBI.

Pundit is AWOL of course 

[RV Pundit]

The ground game will decide. Otherwise supporting Raila in mt Kenya remains the surest path to opposition benches.The ground need to soften - otherwise, this same strategy has failed from day go.

Please explain why half Mt Kenya senators have defected to Kieleweke?

Secondly, all the mobilization of these governors, senators, CSs, businessmen, etc - says what about Uhuru intentions with BBI? Or this is not a major event 

[RV Pundit]

That is a problem really - they cannot come and reveal what BBI they are talking about really is about. So we wait again till June to know what animal we are talking about. Never seen something like this before...

For one Robina, people have realised that the officially unveiled BBI is not exactly what Raila/Uhuru team is talking about. A lot of confusion has set in. And now most people view BBI as "kupiga Ruto.." Even yourself you admit as much.

Second, am telling you there has been a lot of intimidation And Governors are the most affected. There was a time Kiraitu had planned to host Ruto at Meru. Then allover sudden media started publishing some financial misdeeds of Meru County. Kiraitu did the survival instincts and went quite. When Ruto made it to Meru Kiraitu purposely was not present but he had everything organised for Ruto.

Then after Narok BBI Rally even most ardent supporters of BBI are at a loss how to explain this animal called BBI. Cause it doesn't look as if uniting anyone. And if you know Kenya and its ethnic suspicion then you should realise a lot of negativity was generated by that Narok rally. For us who are against BBI machinations we wouldn't have found a better wrecking ball than Ole Kina.

Garliv, everyone who disagrees with Ruto or supports BBI has not been intimidated. That's ostrich syndrome. What has intimidated the senators? Kang'ata, Effy Maina, Ndwiga and most of them are pro- BBI.

Pundit is AWOL of course 

[Garliv]

No one has defected. It's survival and besides the published BBI is generally not problematic. But all senior politicians know what version of BBI is preferred by Raila/Uhuru. We are waiting for official unveiling.
You see most have to play ball especially in Mt. Kenya region as Uhuru parades his power fangs in most unreasonable way. Consultations are underway to finally seek a compromise with Uhuru. If it fails then he will be told that he will be alone as he pursue some dreamland Executive PM.

Please explain why half Mt Kenya senators have defected to Kieleweke?

Secondly, all the mobilization of these governors, senators, CSs, businessmen, etc - says what about Uhuru intentions with BBI? Or this is not a major event 

[Garliv]

And Raila wants to milk the uncertainties until he's assured people are ready with his version of BBI. Which most would, and will, never accept. It's a conundrum.
Then this idea of going round the country seeking each region/community views to be included into BBI is opening a Pandora Box. Historical and buried grudges surface and yet there is no ready solution to them. Then this Raila/Uhuru BBI is actually very dangerous. It can easily set the country on fire. They somehow think they have solutions to each and every contradicting problems. Coast want Majimbo, so they agree. Maasai want "outsiders" to keep off "their land" so BBI pretend to Understand. Somalis want some Parliamentary system so they agree. Kikuyu want to be free to travel and own property all over the country, so BBI pretends to agree. Youth want job so BBI has solutions.

Total lunacy.

That is a problem really - they cannot come and reveal what BBI they are talking about really is about. So we wait again till June to know what animal we are talking about. Never seen something like this before...

[Nefertiti]

Intimidation is an okay spin same as Uhuru is bewitched Explains away the haemorrhage from Tangatanga into the BBI bandwagon. The list of Ruto defectors and deserters is a mile long but you will need a microscope to point out the reverse. By the time Uhuru announces formally there will be a STAMPEDE of Mlolongo babies back to Uhuru corner. Most will be locked out.

No, there are no "final consultations" going on... as you can see Mt Kenya has been regimented into Ruto and Uhuru factions. There were parallel meetings at Safari Park and Pacific hotels this week to galvanize. Safari Park was Uhuru team of Kiraitus and Mungas planning BBI in Meru. Pacific was usual Tangatanga suspects Kuria, Nyoro, Sudi, etc.

Now, Waiguru has joined Atwoli, Murathe,etc in "letting the cat out of the bag" about Uhuru's 2022 plans. I can tell you from all the way here in diaspora - it is common knowledge Uhuru is angling for PM. And that Ruto is finished. Even back home my Auntie's housegal and every goat herder knows Ruto is a marked man as Uhuru has refused to step down for him. It is not a secret nor a suspicion.

No one has defected. It's survival and besides the published BBI is generally not problematic. But all senior politicians know what version of BBI is preferred by Raila/Uhuru. We are waiting for official unveiling.
You see most have to play ball especially in Mt. Kenya region as Uhuru parades his power fangs in most unreasonable way. Consultations are underway to finally seek a compromise with Uhuru. If it fails then he will be told that he will be alone as he pursue some dreamland Executive PM.

[Nefertiti]

BBI  parliamentary report has been ready since March 2018... the rest is PR to lineup support. Ruto ran around campaigning while pretending to launch projects - his "whirlwind tours" - now it is Raila's turn and he doesn't like it hence the noises. It comes down to that Kenya politics is a tripod with 3 legs - 2 non-Gema and one Gema. Ruto has next to zero chance of beating Uhuru-Raila combo.

And Raila wants to milk the uncertainties until he's assured people are ready with his version of BBI. Which most would, and will, never accept. It's a conundrum.
Then this idea of going round the country seeking each region/community views to be included into BBI is opening a Pandora Box. Historical and buried grudges surface and yet there is no ready solution to them. Then this Raila/Uhuru BBI is actually very dangerous. It can easily set the country on fire. They somehow think they have solutions to each and every contradicting problems. Coast want Majimbo, so they agree. Maasai want "outsiders" to keep off "their land" so BBI pretend to Understand. Somalis want some Parliamentary system so they agree. Kikuyu want to be free to travel and own property all over the country, so BBI pretends to agree. Youth want job so BBI has solutions.

Total lunacy.

[Garliv]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. So the saying goes.
Just because people may dislike Sonko, that in itself should not lead National government to wily nily take over Nairobi County duties. Just because Sonko's balls are between BBI hammer and Kamiti Jail he should not be forced to sign over County duties.

There is so much wrong with such a move that am speechless that champion of Devolution and nebulous regional governments are so subdued or are in a celebratory mood.

It was done in an illegal manner just like Waititu Impeachment and removal. All because people think these characters have become unpopular. Precedents are being set here.

Not right at all.

Governors long became official biatches of gov. That is why Sonko did honourable thing and handed Nairobi to Uhuru. I blame Judiciary moronic ruling. A governor should only be removed through impeachment and constitution provision - not suspended by Judiciary. The rest of governors need to also waive the white flag and line up in statehouse - and sign off their duties. Either way they are done. Because you have to appease the ground and appease harambee house. Two difficult choices.

Garliv, everyone who disagrees with Ruto or supports BBI has not been intimidated. That's ostrich syndrome. What has intimidated the senators? Kang'ata, Effy Maina, Ndwiga and most of them are pro- BBI.

Pundit is AWOL of course 

[RV Pundit]

What point of pretending - Governor and DC - are not any different now. Both serve at the mercy of Kibicho in Harambee house. DC has a more secured tenure because at least PSC will protect them and deploy them to read newspapers in some funny office if they fallout with Kibicho or Uhuru. Now governors are all walking in eggs - one visit by Kibicho boy - DCI - and they are KAPUT - the cases will conclude in 2027.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. So the saying goes.
Just because people may dislike Sonko, that in itself should not lead National government to wily nily take over Nairobi County duties. Just because Sonko's balls are between BBI hammer and Kamiti Jail he should not be forced to sign over County duties.

There is so much wrong with such a move that am speechless that champion of Devolution and nebulous regional governments are so subdued or are in a celebratory mood.

It was done in an illegal manner just like Waititu Impeachment and removal. All because people think these characters have become unpopular. Precedents are being set here.

Not right at all.

Governors long became official biatches of gov. That is why Sonko did honourable thing and handed Nairobi to Uhuru. I blame Judiciary moronic ruling. A governor should only be removed through impeachment and constitution provision - not suspended by Judiciary. The rest of governors need to also waive the white flag and line up in statehouse - and sign off their duties. Either way they are done. Because you have to appease the ground and appease harambee house. Two difficult choices.

Garliv, everyone who disagrees with Ruto or supports BBI has not been intimidated. That's ostrich syndrome. What has intimidated the senators? Kang'ata, Effy Maina, Ndwiga and most of them are pro- BBI.

Pundit is AWOL of course 

[Nefertiti]

Parliamentary is the better system so it doesn't matter strictly who nicks Exec PM. Raila of course is running circles around Ruto in non-Gema... who cannot make up his mind. Raila is not appeasing Gema like you wish - that Uhuru job to offer them "something big". Wanjiku doesn't grasp your intricate analysis about headcount or kms - all she knows is Ruto is unwanted and he might revenge by PEV2.

It comes down to Ruto vs Uhuru in Mt Kenya - because Raila has beaten Ruto in non-Gema. Raila is running home with this.

[RV Pundit]

Parliamentary is the better system so it doesn't matter strictly who nicks Exec PM. Raila of course is running circles around Ruto in non-Gema... who cannot make up his mind. Raila is not appeasing Gema like you wish - that Uhuru job to offer them "something big". Wanjiku doesn't grasp your intricate analysis about headcount or kms - all she knows is Ruto is unwanted and he might revenge by PEV2.

It comes down to Ruto vs Uhuru in Mt Kenya - because Raila has beaten Ruto in non-Gema. Raila is running home with this.

And once again if Uhuru doesn't show up for the fight with Ruot what Raila game plan...He has nothing as plan B.He entire plan is to trick GEMA to buy a parliamentary system that would disadvantage them.If GEMA buys that then withcraft is real.I got a bridge to nowhere I am selling too.