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https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-02-20-10-reasons-nairobi-mcas-want-sonko-out/

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2020, 02:17:08 AM »
Perhaps a Commission or a New Ministry. These crop of MCAs are only good for running a matatu and kiosk

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2020, 02:01:48 PM »
They should do it. Then someone rushes to court and the assembly is also disbanded - fresh elections to add tempo to the BBI nonsense.

I supported these two crooks- Watitu and Sonko for two reasons. One, to confirm that politics is for the scum of scum. Two, in the hope that these low lifers were actualized and would seek redemption and just work for their slum adherents.

The ten years out of office after an impeachment is a death blow for the scum.
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2020, 04:04:22 PM »
They should do it. Then someone rushes to court and the assembly is also disbanded - fresh elections to add tempo to the BBI nonsense.

I supported these two crooks- Watitu and Sonko for two reasons. One, to confirm that politics is for the scum of scum. Two, in the hope that these low lifers were actualized and would seek redemption and just work for their slum adherents.

The ten years out of office after an impeachment is a death blow for the scum.

lol never read such liberal nonsense. You elect a drug dealer and a buffoon expecting them to be actualized. There is no drug dealer that is not greedy and dumb. You have to be stupid to do something that you can easily be killed over. It is like owning a store in a bad neighborhood. Only a desperate moron is willing to trade off their life for profit

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2020, 07:31:00 PM »
That's the meaning of liberal.

Redemption is a human attribute - some seek it. Sonko has been doing well to a large extent - he should have just kept his hands off the 1 or 2 millions and appointed a deputy governor. People still do thrive in 'bad' neighbour hoods.

They should do it. Then someone rushes to court and the assembly is also disbanded - fresh elections to add tempo to the BBI nonsense.

I supported these two crooks- Watitu and Sonko for two reasons. One, to confirm that politics is for the scum of scum. Two, in the hope that these low lifers were actualized and would seek redemption and just work for their slum adherents.

The ten years out of office after an impeachment is a death blow for the scum.

lol never read such liberal nonsense. You elect a drug dealer and a buffoon expecting them to be actualized. There is no drug dealer that is not greedy and dumb. You have to be stupid to do something that you can easily be killed over. It is like owning a store in a bad neighborhood. Only a desperate moron is willing to trade off their life for profit
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2020, 09:23:27 PM »
We need to respect temocrazy as moi used to say. UShave Trump for a reason.I remember nearly half wazungu in my work place didn't turn up to work the night he won..too ashamed.Temocrazy is respecting the wisdom of majority like you respect someone who chose to be gay.Temocrazy comes from deeper understanding that all men n women are truly born equal.. whether they went to school or not..or abc.They are useful and can provide leadership...as we know from our families, villages and etc of such unconventional people.Yes the average leader will not be Sonko or Trump or waitutu but once in a while we need to try these kind of crazy people.. sometimes they take us to next level by doing crazy things or remind us why we should not eoect them in the first place. Human has advanced because some people were crazy enough to think we could do better than just being a chimp.We need crazy people.

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2020, 09:51:10 PM »
RVP...I think here we part ways. Democracy as a theory is overrated. It has to tampered with. There is a point where 'wenye kenya' have to say No More sonko na waititu running important parts of the country. btw...said that democracy is the only system that works. Think out of the box


We need to respect temocrazy as moi used to say. UShave Trump for a reason.I remember nearly half wazungu in my work place didn't turn up to work the night he won..too ashamed.Temocrazy is respecting the wisdom of majority like you respect someone who chose to be gay.Temocrazy comes from deeper understanding that all men n women are truly born equal.. whether they went to school or not..or abc.They are useful and can provide leadership...as we know from our families, villages and etc of such unconventional people.Yes the average leader will not be Sonko or Trump or waitutu but once in a while we need to try these kind of crazy people.. sometimes they take us to next level by doing crazy things or remind us why we should not eoect them in the first place. Human has advanced because some people were crazy enough to think we could do better than just being a chimp.We need crazy people.

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2020, 11:14:42 AM »
Meriotrocracy has its merits so to say but democracy is more fair n sustainable

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2020, 03:19:28 PM »
Meriotrocracy has its merits so to say but democracy is more fair n sustainable

Democracy cannot work with a corrupt society.. In Kenya there needs a mop up excercise to boster ethics and morality. One way to do this is via a CASTRO like authoritianism. I would seal NAIROBI west and all well up surburn areas in kenya cities. Do a  ancomplete audit of elites and then establish a new code of ethics and very strick tax compliance and income reporting systems. it would be a shock in the system.. ALl land barons in kenya would lose their land in a one swoop. I would put together marshal plans desolate counties. THere would mass relocation and reeducation in some places

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2020, 03:35:41 PM »
Governor leaves Ruto's office angered ahead of impending impeachment
Did Deputy President William Ruto dodge a governor who had visited him at his Harambee Annex office over his impending impeachment? An insider has disclosed that the county chief, whose ouster bid by the county assembly has been in the pipeline, sought an audience with the DP to reign in the ward reps to drop the impeachment motion. However, the governor, after camping in the waiting room for more than three hours, was informed that the DP had left the building for a meeting with the President. The governor left the building in a huff, vowing to fight his own war. The source says the county boss has now opted to personally engage the MCAs and has been holding overnight meetings with some of them to drop the bid.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/corridors-of-power/2020-02-22-governor-leaves-rutos-office-angered-ahead-of-impending-impeachment/

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2020, 03:39:38 PM »
Governor leaves Ruto's office angered ahead of impending impeachment
Did Deputy President William Ruto dodge a governor who had visited him at his Harambee Annex office over his impending impeachment? An insider has disclosed that the county chief, whose ouster bid by the county assembly has been in the pipeline, sought an audience with the DP to reign in the ward reps to drop the impeachment motion. However, the governor, after camping in the waiting room for more than three hours, was informed that the DP had left the building for a meeting with the President. The governor left the building in a huff, vowing to fight his own war. The source says the county boss has now opted to personally engage the MCAs and has been holding overnight meetings with some of them to drop the bid.
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/corridors-of-power/2020-02-22-governor-leaves-rutos-office-angered-ahead-of-impending-impeachment/

The pressure is on. Uhuru legacy may be the his half assed fight on corruption. He is trying to cure this cancer with Chinesse medicine but it needs Chemo and radiation to the wazooooo

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2020, 06:59:19 PM »
Read BBI Report Chapter 11 verse 190. It calls for special status of Nairobi as capital city. Its due to UNEP, FOREIGN EMBASSIES pressures and Kenyattas don't want some upstart from Eastlands loading over them. Actually I have heard this elites say that if that fails then Nairobi be divided so that "uchafu ya Eastlands ikae na huko..."

They starting that process. Next maybe Lamu with port and all..

Assault on devolution.

Under sieke Sonko signs off constitutional mandate to quicksand Uhuru.

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/besieged-sonko-surrenders-nairobi-county-to-uhuru

Article 187

http://www.klrc.go.ke/index.php/constitution-of-kenya/141-chapter-eleven-devolved-government/part-3-functions-and-powers-of-county-governments/356-187-transfer-of-functions-and-powers-between-levels-of-government

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2020, 12:58:54 PM »
Total nonsense and madness. Sonko was doing well in health, mitaa roads and lands compared to rogue national government ministries. It buys Sonko time and Uhuru gets more shit to be blamed about.


Read BBI Report Chapter 11 verse 190. It calls for special status of Nairobi as capital city. Its due to UNEP, FOREIGN EMBASSIES pressures and Kenyattas don't want some upstart from Eastlands loading over them. Actually I have heard this elites say that if that fails then Nairobi be divided so that "uchafu ya Eastlands ikae na huko..."

They starting that process. Next maybe Lamu with port and all..

Assault on devolution.

Under sieke Sonko signs off constitutional mandate to quicksand Uhuru.

https://nairobinews.nation.co.ke/news/besieged-sonko-surrenders-nairobi-county-to-uhuru

Article 187

http://www.klrc.go.ke/index.php/constitution-of-kenya/141-chapter-eleven-devolved-government/part-3-functions-and-powers-of-county-governments/356-187-transfer-of-functions-and-powers-between-levels-of-government
Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one ~ Thomas Paine

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2020, 02:38:33 PM »
RV the FAKE Pundit was pontificating here barely a year ago how Gema will never seize Nairobi County. He could see the future thru Excel. Ruto was to follow the Sonko "take no prisoners" model to deal with Uhuru. :)
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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2020, 06:12:40 PM »
I never foresaw judiciary womanned by people of low intelligence like Mumbi. Kichwa Mbaya who deeply understands the law would never pass a law that effectively makes the DPP the most powerful man in Kenya.

I keep saying good intentions paved the road to hell.

That is why I sometimes prefer thugs like Sonko or Ruto to angels. Most of thugs are brilliant people.

If a gov is allowed to stand for office while facing trial - he cannot be suspended when charged. The nonsense about declaring their office a crime scene is DEALT with impeachment - a political process.

The judicial coup has made Kibicho very powerful.

RV the FAKE Pundit was pontificating here barely a year ago how Gema will never seize Nairobi County. He could see the future thru Excel. Ruto was to follow the Sonko "take no prisoners" model to deal with Uhuru. :)

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2020, 07:09:14 PM »
Your whack morals kweli. Graft is a very big issue in Kenya so this is a great development. Kenyans are used to thieves walking scot-free. Simply if you are greedy stay in drug business not public office. Noone can dare propose governor immunity to BBI knowing there would be an outcry.

You should know even your god Ruto can be suspended by Mumbi Ngugi the new shero in town.
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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2020, 07:39:47 PM »
So we kill devolution to save Kenya.You know the fight against graft has been politicized which is why inaw it's important to let many criminal go scotfree than jail one innocent man.For it fair because Ruto folks are on the receiving end..next when Ruto become PoRK..you will email like some did under moi.Moi never changed the Constitution that much...Mumbi has very good intentions but I doubt he imagine a situation where governors are made subservient to national gov by her rulling.Sonko has called their bluff by handing it over officially...rest of governors should consider doing the same

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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2020, 08:01:20 PM »
Waititu et al are facing JUSTICE not persecution. There was ample evidence even yourself here spoke of it. Same as Sonko who was hounded by EACC not DCI. It's not all politics. Tell us which innocent governor is being hounded - only the guilty are afraid.

Johos and BBI adherents enjoy impunity of course and that's a shame. And definitely you can't tell us all Handshake backers have been intimidated. Most are genuine especially ODM crew.

Your reasoning on graft is just like Gema viz parliamentary - where you call equity discrimination. Prosecuting thieves STRENGTHENS devolution. There will be fewer hyenas on the ballot in future as the ROI is whittled down.
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Re: Sonko goes - then what - a by-election or Uhuru take over Nairobi
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2020, 08:06:02 PM »
Oh, the jury is out on how GoK manages Nairobi. But the metropolitan disrict idea makes sense. It been proposed to BBI. Sonko has been a spectacular failure who pushed out Uhuru boy then failed pick a replacement. He had it coming. I suspect he will still be impeached. Anyway Uhuru and Raila will share the mnofu.
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