Uhuru is not with Ruto.

[Nefertiti]

At least we agree on Kiunjuri unlike Pundit who believes he is the new prince. The rest about a vacuum is alot of wishful thinking. Why is it that Ruto, Kuria, Kiunjuri, etc insist they are with Uhuru and the enemy is Raila Odinga? They are being kicked by cops out of his meetings which they demand to attend. Noone in Kieleweke has to be chased from Ruto's meetings despite his new status.

Explain Waititu - aren't the MCAs who impeached him supposed to be Ruto followers as the "man of the moment?" Instead they were marshalled by Kamanda and Wamuchomba. Or you can spin it like Pundit that Ruto did not try to save his groupie. We saw Murkomen pulling all tricks with a skewed committee in the senate. The loss margin was very telling.

Gema followed Kenyatta 1 because he emerged as the strongest leader. Kenyatta 2 reins supreme and there is nothing Ruto can do. Even BBI will pass in Mt Kenya despite their support being unnecessary. Ruto vs Uhuru in Mt Kenya would be a Guinness Record dog beating.

1. MauMau leaders were well accepted by their exploits and what they doing fighting Brits colonialism. There was no question of forcing people to support them. People just did. Also don't forget even famous and well known chiefs/persons had their heads chopped off for being traitors. Uhuru is almost there. The power he wields as President notwithstanding.

2. JM had not really risen to the point of being a leader as seen from Kikuyu eyes. He was more like Moses Kuria. Championing for well known issues and making life uncomfortable to Kenyattas thieving.

3. Matiba And Kibaki had split Mt. Kenya loyalties. Therefore in all instances there is nowhere anybody imposed themselves. Jomo was widely accepted due to historical circumstances of those times. But he was lucky he got arrested when he did as MauMau had resolved to chop his head off for being traitor. Also read Bildad Kaggia book to understand how Brits schemed to have Kenyatta as the leader.
Anyway, point is Uhuru cannot and will not impose his deranged view/BBI Plan without opposition. He will implement BBI without Mt. Kenya support or votes or consent.

May i point to you that currently when Uhuru visits Mt. Kenya he's being accompanied by enhanced security including those GSU/Soldiers Lorries. Things are thick.

Finally, William Samoei Ruto aka Hustler has found himself as a man of circumstances. A man of the moment. Mt. Kenya view him as the incoming leader and have adopted him as such. It is NOT HIM WHO HAS BRIBED OR STOLEN UHURU'S SUPPORT, but rather circumstances have brought him to where he is. This is the whole of Mt. Kenya agrees and acknowledge they cannot produce the next president and therefore they are better off supporting/adopting another person outside Mt. Kenya. That person happen to be Ruto. Second reason is that Uhuru has DELIBERATELY AND SYSTEMATICALLY SUPPRESSED any alternative to himself within Mt. Kenya. Therefore people have to look for alternative: after all leadership hates vacuum.
To me Kiunjuri is STILL NOT YET A MT. KENYA ALTERNATIVE to Uhuru. He could be but he has a way to go. Maybe soon he will surprise me and truly grab mantle from Uhuru. In other words there is a leadership contest and transition taking place in Mt. Kenya and Ruto just happened to be the man of the moment. Ruto is being "temporarily accepted/adopted" as Mt. Kenya leader until a more solid and acceptable leader emerge after Uhuru. Uhuru need to go home and smoke his stuffs so that Mt. Kenya move on:can have a leader for the future.

Finally, absolutely and absolutely I HAVE FOUND NO ONE EXCITED that Uhuru can be (will be) Executive PM. No one. Most dismiss it as "wana.." (utoto/childishness). No one is buying this thing. And if you see Mt. Kenya openly asking themselves "kwani ni familia ya Kenyatta wanaweza ongoza tu!?" just know ni kubaya.. No one is interested in maintaining Uhuru leadership any longer than its necessary. No one.

Ruto is caught in-between Mt. Kenya leadership transition battle.

[Nefertiti]

Tunaonewa and crybaby stories is like Kibra where voters are fed 5-star dinners because Mariga is so popular. Then it is screaming and wailing when Uhuru and Raila equally play a rough game. All is fair in love and war.

Where is Ruto popular? Besides the imaginary crowning in Mt Kenya? So those MCAs in Ol Kalou were coerced to attend then kicked out by Kimemia? The wananchi show up out of curiosity This is spin on steroids. All I see is YouTube videos of excited wananchi cheering as Uhuru speaks. Jibes at Tangatanga.

Short of an election or an "Uhuru vs Ruto" opinion poll it is hard to measure Wanjiku's mind. Objectively let's see how many people want Uhuru for PM:

1. CoG secret ballot  - "coerced" governors failed to back Ruto boy Ali Roba. Oparanya was almost unopposed. The coerced spin imploded. The Gema governors are now Uhuru pointmen threatening to discipline Tangatanga including Kiraitu and former Ruto savage dog Muthomi Njuki.

2. Waititu impeachment - exposes "Ruto has the ground" and parliament white lie. Since senators follow the ground logically they should side with Ruto. Unless the war on corruption is now genuine which we know it's not.

3. Grapevine of plans to kick out Tangatanga from committee chairs will soon expose the spin about Ruto control of MPs. The other day Murkomen floated a false headcount of 170+ MPs in Naivasha anti-BBI party.

Those governors, senators, MCAs want Uhuru for Exec PM. It is why they are faithfully pushing BBI and Handshake. Only mlolongo MPs are with Ruto in Mt Kenya.

As for Nyahunyo, Uhuru has become like the pestilence that stalks in the darkness and the destruction that strike at midday. Even business people who had been welcoming Ruto and TangaTanga have had some demands from KRA or some phone calls to visit DCI. A client of mine was invited last week to visit EACC to answer for some government tender he won and finalised job and got paid 6yrs ago. Total lunacy.
Then its catch-22 for MCAs and other politicians. If they just ignore Uhuru meetings then its a worse problem. If they attend they are humiliated. What does he and his advisors want?
Presidents meetings are now attended by more security personnel than residents. There is no excitement or enthusiasm: just like curiosity President is around wacha tusikie leo anatukana nani...

Hint: easier thing he just campaign for Raila as President and maybe Waiguru as Deputy. Otherwise BBI will not sell. No one want him as PM. And even Raila wants him as PM just to use him to win power (Presidency).
Actually who wants Uhuru as Executive PM!?

[Nefertiti]

Kalenjin backed Moi to the very end. Ruto could only manage after 2007 when he used Raila and ICC as scarecrows. Almost 10 years after Moi had retired when the old man was definitively senile. Ruto only beat Gideon and Henry Kosgey not Daniel Moi. You can't claim to beat a 90yo.

Spin on.

Moi did exactly the same. Eventually, Kalenjin asked who Moi was, to act like he was the pre-destined leader of Kalenjin - they found out he was just an orphan boy without any born-leadership credentials. And Kalenjin dumped Moi like a hot coal. Who really are Kenyatta's - just another poor family turned famous. Their uthamaki is make belief - it's like he was the son of say Lenana or Kabaka - those are people with generations of 'leadership'.

Moi mistake - he had built anti-gema (kikuyu) coalition and then he suddenly build bridges - switched sides - and embrace Kikuyus & handed over power to them - without caring to carry along the people. Kalenjin knew they had build an alliance with Kambas, Luhyas, coast and Maasai - and naturally, they expect Moi would endorse Saitoti or Kalonzo or MaDVD or even Ngala. Heck even Raila Odinga would have been acceptable. But NOT UHURU. Moi basically killed KANU in one move.

The same Uhuru mistake - he has built and nurtured a hatred against Raila (he found it already well watered) and then suddenly turn around & expect people to simply also turn?

Only Raila does that to Luos. Nobody else. That is why Raila is powerful. He can tell the Luos to jump and they will ask how high.

Uhuru cannot do the same with GEMA. He has to explain, cajole and finally convince people - including it's leaders - this is best move. He has a problem explaining it - because it's a selfish move that doesn't consider the consequence especially on 1m plus poor diaspora people living in rift valley.  He clearly knows that gov cannot protect them - and by burning bridges with Ruto - he is basically burning bridges btw Kalenjin & Kikuyus - with disastrous consequences on their lifes and investments.

[Nefertiti]

The last standoff Ruto was barred by the Nyandarua CC from launching a project. In Kimemia presence. I mean Ruto was kicked out of his official mini-SH. How will he launch projects if Uhuru refuses? Unless as usual he has your magical powers. This kind of narrative makes me think you're delusional.

Look like we might have a collision...
Deputy President William Ruto now says he will continue launching and following up on government projects as that is his work as the second in command.

" Mimi napata mshahara ya deputy president, kwa hivyo kila mtu afanye kazi yake na tuheshimiane,kama sijaingilia kazi ya mwingine shida iko wapi... nitaendelea kusukuma miradi ya stima, barabara, maji na masomo ya wanafunzi"

[RV Pundit]

You're a baby in politics. It irritating when you want to lecture your political professor. Moi became kaput exactly in 2002 - at least 1/3 of Kalenjin revolted in 2002 elections- nearly 90% disapproved of Uhuru choice but because Moi was Moi (Uhuru will not get there soon) - many said - maybe he will pull his tricks. I was there - and I saw it -. Moi didn't pull any rabbit. The remaining 2/3 revolted immediately in 2003 and Ruto was elected KANU Sec General instead of Gideon Moi. Gideon Moi and Moi kicked out as early as 2003 and they have yet to recover. By time Kalenjin were leaving en-mass KANU to ODM - Moi was just an old senile man nobody listens to - heck their cows were eaten by warriors by 2007. Moi since 2003 has had 1-2% of Kalenjin political support - but at least he is respected & revered - folks just think he got senile. Uhuru may end up worse.

Kalenjin backed Moi to the very end. Ruto could only manage after 2007 when he used Raila and ICC as scarecrows. Almost 10 years after Moi had retired when the old man was definitively senile. Ruto only beat Gideon and Henry Kosgey not Daniel Moi. You can't claim to beat a 90yo.

Spin on.

[RV Pundit]

Ruto will not lack something to do. Ask Raila who sacked him from Agri Ministry and Ruto found something to make him tour the country. He has his ministers - he will launch those projects. He can only launch CDF projects - those are national projects. He can also launch county projects. I mean Uhuru already is tired after a week in the field.

Ultimately it not about the projects - it about a lazy bone trying to stop Ruto from popularizing himself - a futile task.

Ruto can even launch baby showers and birthday parties in Mt Kenya. Will you send prov administration to stop him

The last standoff Ruto was barred by the Nyandarua CC from launching a project. In Kimemia presence. I mean Ruto was kicked out of his official mini-SH. How will he launch projects if Uhuru refuses? Unless as usual he has your magical powers. This kind of narrative makes me think you're delusional.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

The last standoff Ruto was barred by the Nyandarua CC from launching a project. In Kimemia presence. I mean Ruto was kicked out of his official mini-SH. How will he launch projects if Uhuru refuses? Unless as usual he has your magical powers. This kind of narrative makes me think you're delusional.

Look like we might have a collision...
Deputy President William Ruto now says he will continue launching and following up on government projects as that is his work as the second in command.

" Mimi napata mshahara ya deputy president, kwa hivyo kila mtu afanye kazi yake na tuheshimiane,kama sijaingilia kazi ya mwingine shida iko wapi... nitaendelea kusukuma miradi ya stima, barabara, maji na masomo ya wanafunzi"

It seems the gloves are off(or maybe have been for some time).  Nobody could have predicted this level of fallout just 3 years ago. 

[Nefertiti]

I see. I agree there can be no confrontation over baby showers. But "Ruto roads" or meaningful stuff like farm subsidies you can forget. Counties labda RV - no governor is with him in Mt Kenya.

About lazy Uhuru or Ruto midas touch... that just voodoo. Nothing can stop running due to Ruto absence. It is a mountain to compete with PORK in his own backyard.

Ruto will not lack something to do. Ask Raila who sacked him from Agri Ministry and Ruto found something to make him tour the country. He has his ministers - he will launch those projects. He can only launch CDF projects - those are national projects. He can also launch county projects. I mean Uhuru already is tired after a week in the field.

Ultimately it not about the projects - it about a lazy bone trying to stop Ruto from popularizing himself - a futile task.

Ruto can even launch baby showers and birthday parties in Mt Kenya. Will you send prov administration to stop him

[Nefertiti]

The last standoff Ruto was barred by the Nyandarua CC from launching a project. In Kimemia presence. I mean Ruto was kicked out of his official mini-SH. How will he launch projects if Uhuru refuses? Unless as usual he has your magical powers. This kind of narrative makes me think you're delusional.

Look like we might have a collision...
Deputy President William Ruto now says he will continue launching and following up on government projects as that is his work as the second in command.

" Mimi napata mshahara ya deputy president, kwa hivyo kila mtu afanye kazi yake na tuheshimiane,kama sijaingilia kazi ya mwingine shida iko wapi... nitaendelea kusukuma miradi ya stima, barabara, maji na masomo ya wanafunzi"

It seems the gloves are off(or maybe have been for some time).  Nobody could have predicted this level of fallout just 3 years ago.

When VP is kicked out of his official residence that is quite serious. Or locked out of official GoK meetings. Ruto is left to spin away the implausible.

[RV Pundit]

It wrong diagnosis. Ruto is not loved in Mt Kenya because he is developing anything. Uhuru is not hated because of milk or coffee. Those are just fake reasons. The real reason Mt Kenya do not want to hear anything about Raila. Hiyo tu. That is why Uhuru has yet to take Raila or BBI to central.

Trust me Ruto can even start attending ruracio and people will attend it. Uhuru can send every mt kenya 100K and they would still not accept Raila. The hatred for the man is what - 20yrs old - since 2002. Unlike Ruto who has 1M diaspora as his hostage - Raila has no hostage - so why would Mt Kenya negotiate with him - they vanguished him only for Uhuru to resurrect him.

It simple - if Uhuru was smart - he can still get BBI 2.0 through MaDVD or Kalonzo or someone - but not Raila. He goes with Raila - he loses his homebase. He will be courting a rebellion.

You are basically telling Mt Kenya to choose btw 1 MAN greed for power -after 10yrs  & 15yrs by his dad - and 1M of their relatives - who will most likely become collateral (last time 600K Kenyans (mostly kikuyus) were evicted) as consequences of fallout btw him and Ruto. Easy choice. They will send Uhuru to Mama Ngina.

At end of the day - Uhuru will go to Ruto and negotiate for a deal to continue - if he badly wants to continue - but I think Supreme Leader of Jubilee will be given to him.

I see. I agree there can be no confrontation over baby showers. But "Ruto roads" or meaningful stuff like farm subsidies you can forget. Counties labda RV - no governor is with him in Mt Kenya.

About lazy Uhuru or Ruto midas touch... that just voodoo. Nothing can stop running due to Ruto absence. It is a mountain to compete with PORK in his own backyard.

Ruto will not lack something to do. Ask Raila who sacked him from Agri Ministry and Ruto found something to make him tour the country. He has his ministers - he will launch those projects. He can only launch CDF projects - those are national projects. He can also launch county projects. I mean Uhuru already is tired after a week in the field.

Ultimately it not about the projects - it about a lazy bone trying to stop Ruto from popularizing himself - a futile task.

Ruto can even launch baby showers and birthday parties in Mt Kenya. Will you send prov administration to stop him

[Nefertiti]

I know it will take time to sink in but Ruto is not in control of anything. Uhuru has Ruto glued in the mountain as Raila consolidate non-Gema. You only see Uhuru in Central because that all he needs to lock him out. BBI is left, right and centre in his rallies. In fact it is the main agenda followed by farmer goodies. Uhuru is not with Raila because he never intended to be with him. What for? - Raila needs to sell ceremonial president and Uhuru 2.0 in non-Gema. Which is easy peasy due to parliamentary payoff.

As Ruto is systematically pushed out of Mt Kenya - am not sure what his plan B is. Uhuru is doing right by Mt Kenya - getting them more power after Ruto attempted to colonize them as Raila has done in Luhya and tried to repeat in Kalenjin. About hostages - QUIVERS - that is laughable. Any nyef nyef is a golden shower for Raila.

It wrong diagnosis. Ruto is not loved in Mt Kenya because he is developing anything. Uhuru is not hated because of milk or coffee. Those are just fake reasons. The real reason Mt Kenya do not want to hear anything about Raila. Hiyo tu. That is why Uhuru has yet to take Raila or BBI to central.

Trust me Ruto can even start attending ruracio and people will attend it. Uhuru can send every mt kenya 100K and they would still not accept Raila. The hatred for the man is what - 20yrs old - since 2002. Unlike Ruto who has 1M diaspora as his hostage - Raila has no hostage - so why would Mt Kenya negotiate with him - they vanguished him only for Uhuru to resurrect him.

It simple - if Uhuru was smart - he can still get BBI 2.0 through MaDVD or Kalonzo or someone - but not Raila. He goes with Raila - he loses his homebase. He will be courting a rebellion.

You are basically telling Mt Kenya to choose btw 1 MAN greed for power -after 10yrs  & 15yrs by his dad - and 1M of their relatives - who will most likely become collateral (last time 600K Kenyans (mostly kikuyus) were evicted) as consequences of fallout btw him and Ruto. Easy choice. They will send Uhuru to Mama Ngina.

At end of the day - Uhuru will go to Ruto and negotiate for a deal to continue - if he badly wants to continue - but I think Supreme Leader of Jubilee will be given to him.

[Nefertiti]

Ruto is not loved in Mt Kenya. He has corrupted some MPs that he rigged in through mlolongo. That is why he cannot dare to insult Uhuru - his "support" would evaporate instantly. Now his Waititu groupie has been sacked - the bloke openly confessed Ruto rigged him in - do you want to see the clip of the confession? Ruto should have rigged everyone cause anyone he didn't rig is against him.

When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. No middle ground.

It wrong diagnosis. Ruto is not loved in Mt Kenya because he is developing anything. Uhuru is not hated because of milk or coffee. Those are just fake reasons. The real reason Mt Kenya do not want to hear anything about Raila. Hiyo tu. That is why Uhuru has yet to take Raila or BBI to central.

Trust me Ruto can even start attending ruracio and people will attend it. Uhuru can send every mt kenya 100K and they would still not accept Raila. The hatred for the man is what - 20yrs old - since 2002. Unlike Ruto who has 1M diaspora as his hostage - Raila has no hostage - so why would Mt Kenya negotiate with him - they vanguished him only for Uhuru to resurrect him.

It simple - if Uhuru was smart - he can still get BBI 2.0 through MaDVD or Kalonzo or someone - but not Raila. He goes with Raila - he loses his homebase. He will be courting a rebellion.

You are basically telling Mt Kenya to choose btw 1 MAN greed for power -after 10yrs  & 15yrs by his dad - and 1M of their relatives - who will most likely become collateral (last time 600K Kenyans (mostly kikuyus) were evicted) as consequences of fallout btw him and Ruto. Easy choice. They will send Uhuru to Mama Ngina.

At end of the day - Uhuru will go to Ruto and negotiate for a deal to continue - if he badly wants to continue - but I think Supreme Leader of Jubilee will be given to him.

[RV Pundit]

Nonsense from Games of Thrones. Ruto enjoys the support of Mt Kenya people - beyond the Mps - the support is from ground zero. That is why opinion polls are showing him at nearly 50% of the decided voters - with Raila struggling at nearly single digit with Uhuru.

Ruto is not loved in Mt Kenya. He has corrupted some MPs that he rigged in through mlolongo. That is why he cannot dare to insult Uhuru - his "support" would evaporate instantly. Now his Waititu groupie has been sacked - the bloke openly confessed Ruto rigged him in - do you want to see the clip of the confession? Ruto should have rigged everyone cause anyone he didn't rig is against him.

When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. No middle ground.

[Nefertiti]

I don't know about their credibility, but there is no "Ruto vs Uhuru" poll. It is Ruto vs Raila which is the wish and narrative in Tangatanga. Sadly it is not the reality.

Nonsense from Games of Thrones. Ruto enjoys the support of Mt Kenya people - beyond the Mps - the support is from ground zero. That is why opinion polls are showing him at nearly 50% of the decided voters - with Raila struggling at nearly single digit with Uhuru.

[Garliv]

Robina, since this BBI/Handshake came about Uhuru and his team had planned to go round Mt. Kenya and popularise it. In short sell ot to the region. NIS and other sources told them not to try. The "ground is not conducive...". So they bought their time.
Then people have been complaining about a lot of things.., from allegedly fight against counterfeits, fiasco in payments of shipment  charges and tax, then prices of milk, coffee, tea... Then about buildings/houses being demolished among other issues.
Eventually Uhuru went to Embakassi Inland Depot and instructed release of goods/cargo. By then some businesses had closed/shut down. Then the banking policies are not friendly to "local man".. We have Fanatic Catholic Priest as CBK Governor who believes everyone is a thief and only the rich should bank.. These issues embittered people as they wondered what "this Uhuru is doing always drunk, lazy and with Raila" always saying Handshake/BBI..

Towards end last year, Jezebel and others came up with a plan that he be "tough, visible and he be seen with the people..." This is what he's doing at the moment.
He has decreed increases in prices on milk, tea, coffee, rice and other issues. We have to see the next few months whether there will be much difference.
That is how Uhuru" lost his people" even before BBI/Handshake.

At the same time all these were going on, Ruto had endeared himself with the people. He was socializing and visiting the area at a regular basis. Indeed some of his Harambees have been FRUITFUL to the point where Uhuru actually hijacked a Ruto Akorino Event. It's in that event he swore to deal with TangaTanga. By then they were well entrenched.

OFFICIALLY THERE IS NO UHURU vs RUTO battle in Mt. Kenya. Indeed Uhuru doesn't and so far he has not "taken on" Ruto directly or mentioned him directly. The battle is being fought in a circuitous manner. The talk is of BBI and unspoken is that Ruto is the "rebel of BBI.."

Now once BBI Rallies set foot in Mt. Kenya, let not Kieleweke/ODM politicians directly disparage Ruto or akina Kuria TangaTanga. It's then you will understand where loyalty of most Mt. Kenyans is.

NB: I have given you the background to show Uhuru lost his ground longer than he thinks. He cannot now come with Raila and TELLS PEOPLE HE WANTS TO BE EXECUTIVE PM! Ya kufanya nini?

I don't know about their credibility, but there is no "Ruto vs Uhuru" poll. It is Ruto vs Raila which is the wish and narrative in Tangatanga. Sadly it is not the reality.

[Kichwa]

Wacha Wewe, Mt. Kenya will do what Ouru tell them to do.  They loved Ruto because Ouru told them to. Now that Ouru has changed his mind about Ruto they too will.  There is really nothing unique about Mt. Kenya.  They do what they are told to do.  Mt. Kenya does not have to love Raila nor do luos have to love Ouru. BBI is a compromise document for all Kenyans. Ruto is stuck like a broken record with the discredited Kalenjin/Kikuyu tyranny of numbers.  Some people thought that this Kalenjin/Kikuyu coalition would carry the day for another 50 years. The problem with that coalition was that it was unstable because it left too many people out and required rigging to make it work. Ruto was trying to fix it so that it would not require rigging but he could not because Ruto was leaving out the politically mighty luo tribe.  Ouru and Raila are putting together through BBI a better, much bigger and a more politically stable political vehicle. Ruto is offering nothing new but the discredited and loathed kikuyu/Kalenjin crap. BBI is like opening a new bar in the neighborhood. Ruto needs to come up with something better or he is going down.  This is not about kikuyus anymore.

Robina, since this BBI/Handshake came about Uhuru and his team had planned to go round Mt. Kenya and popularise it. In short sell ot to the region. NIS and other sources told them not to try. The "ground is not conducive...". So they bought their time.
Then people have been complaining about a lot of things.., from allegedly fight against counterfeits, fiasco in payments of shipment  charges and tax, then prices of milk, coffee, tea... Then about buildings/houses being demolished among other issues.
Eventually Uhuru went to Embakassi Inland Depot and instructed release of goods/cargo. By then some businesses had closed/shut down. Then the banking policies are not friendly to "local man".. We have Fanatic Catholic Priest as CBK Governor who believes everyone is a thief and only the rich should bank.. These issues embittered people as they wondered what "this Uhuru is doing always drunk, lazy and with Raila" always saying Handshake/BBI..

Towards end last year, Jezebel and others came up with a plan that he be "tough, visible and he be seen with the people..." This is what he's doing at the moment.
He has decreed increases in prices on milk, tea, coffee, rice and other issues. We have to see the next few months whether there will be much difference.
That is how Uhuru" lost his people" even before BBI/Handshake.

At the same time all these were going on, Ruto had endeared himself with the people. He was socializing and visiting the area at a regular basis. Indeed some of his Harambees have been FRUITFUL to the point where Uhuru actually hijacked a Ruto Akorino Event. It's in that event he swore to deal with TangaTanga. By then they were well entrenched.

OFFICIALLY THERE IS NO UHURU vs RUTO battle in Mt. Kenya. Indeed Uhuru doesn't and so far he has not "taken on" Ruto directly or mentioned him directly. The battle is being fought in a circuitous manner. The talk is of BBI and unspoken is that Ruto is the "rebel of BBI.."

Now once BBI Rallies set foot in Mt. Kenya, let not Kieleweke/ODM politicians directly disparage Ruto or akina Kuria TangaTanga. It's then you will understand where loyalty of most Mt. Kenyans is.

NB: I have given you the background to show Uhuru lost his ground longer than he thinks. He cannot now come with Raila and TELLS PEOPLE HE WANTS TO BE EXECUTIVE PM! Ya kufanya nini?

I don't know about their credibility, but there is no "Ruto vs Uhuru" poll. It is Ruto vs Raila which is the wish and narrative in Tangatanga. Sadly it is not the reality.

[RV Pundit]

You've captured it.Uhuru has tried so many approaches to win back Mt Kenya and all have backfired. All it will take is for him to bulldoze BBI/handshake - let the train reach central - and rebellion will be opened. Kiunjuri has a big chance here..or someone else who can unite the people. I think Kiunjuri if he starts with diaspora and combine with Nyeri - will be shoe in. Already Kiunjuri is accepted leader of many rebels.

Uhuru has basically exhausted his arsenals - you withdrew security, guns, corruption charges, police, and then WHAT? Ask Moi - eventually all tools of intimidation don't work.

Robina, since this BBI/Handshake came about Uhuru and his team had planned to go round Mt. Kenya and popularise it. In short sell ot to the region. NIS and other sources told them not to try. The "ground is not conducive...". So they bought their time.
Then people have been complaining about a lot of things.., from allegedly fight against counterfeits, fiasco in payments of shipment  charges and tax, then prices of milk, coffee, tea... Then about buildings/houses being demolished among other issues.
Eventually Uhuru went to Embakassi Inland Depot and instructed release of goods/cargo. By then some businesses had closed/shut down. Then the banking policies are not friendly to "local man".. We have Fanatic Catholic Priest as CBK Governor who believes everyone is a thief and only the rich should bank.. These issues embittered people as they wondered what "this Uhuru is doing always drunk, lazy and with Raila" always saying Handshake/BBI..

Towards end last year, Jezebel and others came up with a plan that he be "tough, visible and he be seen with the people..." This is what he's doing at the moment.
He has decreed increases in prices on milk, tea, coffee, rice and other issues. We have to see the next few months whether there will be much difference.
That is how Uhuru" lost his people" even before BBI/Handshake.

At the same time all these were going on, Ruto had endeared himself with the people. He was socializing and visiting the area at a regular basis. Indeed some of his Harambees have been FRUITFUL to the point where Uhuru actually hijacked a Ruto Akorino Event. It's in that event he swore to deal with TangaTanga. By then they were well entrenched.

OFFICIALLY THERE IS NO UHURU vs RUTO battle in Mt. Kenya. Indeed Uhuru doesn't and so far he has not "taken on" Ruto directly or mentioned him directly. The battle is being fought in a circuitous manner. The talk is of BBI and unspoken is that Ruto is the "rebel of BBI.."

Now once BBI Rallies set foot in Mt. Kenya, let not Kieleweke/ODM politicians directly disparage Ruto or akina Kuria TangaTanga. It's then you will understand where loyalty of most Mt. Kenyans is.

NB: I have given you the background to show Uhuru lost his ground longer than he thinks. He cannot now come with Raila and TELLS PEOPLE HE WANTS TO BE EXECUTIVE PM! Ya kufanya nini?

I don't know about their credibility, but there is no "Ruto vs Uhuru" poll. It is Ruto vs Raila which is the wish and narrative in Tangatanga. Sadly it is not the reality.

[RV Pundit]

Coalition that has won 3 elections - and has ruled kenya for 60yrs is not crap. It works. GEMA don't want to hear Uhuru crazy proposals with Raila. If it aint broken, why fix it.

If Uhuru wants executive PM - he will need to ask within Jubilee.

When Raila finally make a triumphant trip to Mt Kenya - with his BBI brigade- let us know

Wacha Wewe, Mt. Kenya will do what Ouru tell them to do.  They loved Ruto because Ouru told them to. Now that Ouru has changed his mind about Ruto they too will.  There is really nothing unique about Mt. Kenya.  They do what they are told to do.  Mt. Kenya does not have to love Raila nor do luos have to love Ouru. BBI is a compromise document for all Kenyans. Ruto is stuck like a broken record with the discredited Kalenjin/Kikuyu tyranny of numbers.  Some people thought that this Kalenjin/Kikuyu coalition would carry the day for another 50 years. The problem with that coalition was that it was unstable because it left too many people out and required rigging to make it work. Ruto was trying to fix it so that it would not require rigging but he could not because Ruto was leaving out the politically mighty luo tribe.  Ouru and Raila are putting together through BBI a better, much bigger and a more politically stable political vehicle. Ruto is offering nothing new but the discredited and loathed kikuyu/Kalenjin crap. BBI is like opening a new bar in the neighborhood. Ruto needs to come up with something better or he is going down.  This is not about kikuyus anymore.

Robina, since this BBI/Handshake came about Uhuru and his team had planned to go round Mt. Kenya and popularise it. In short sell ot to the region. NIS and other sources told them not to try. The "ground is not conducive...". So they bought their time.
Then people have been complaining about a lot of things.., from allegedly fight against counterfeits, fiasco in payments of shipment  charges and tax, then prices of milk, coffee, tea... Then about buildings/houses being demolished among other issues.
Eventually Uhuru went to Embakassi Inland Depot and instructed release of goods/cargo. By then some businesses had closed/shut down. Then the banking policies are not friendly to "local man".. We have Fanatic Catholic Priest as CBK Governor who believes everyone is a thief and only the rich should bank.. These issues embittered people as they wondered what "this Uhuru is doing always drunk, lazy and with Raila" always saying Handshake/BBI..

Towards end last year, Jezebel and others came up with a plan that he be "tough, visible and he be seen with the people..." This is what he's doing at the moment.
He has decreed increases in prices on milk, tea, coffee, rice and other issues. We have to see the next few months whether there will be much difference.
That is how Uhuru" lost his people" even before BBI/Handshake.

At the same time all these were going on, Ruto had endeared himself with the people. He was socializing and visiting the area at a regular basis. Indeed some of his Harambees have been FRUITFUL to the point where Uhuru actually hijacked a Ruto Akorino Event. It's in that event he swore to deal with TangaTanga. By then they were well entrenched.

OFFICIALLY THERE IS NO UHURU vs RUTO battle in Mt. Kenya. Indeed Uhuru doesn't and so far he has not "taken on" Ruto directly or mentioned him directly. The battle is being fought in a circuitous manner. The talk is of BBI and unspoken is that Ruto is the "rebel of BBI.."

Now once BBI Rallies set foot in Mt. Kenya, let not Kieleweke/ODM politicians directly disparage Ruto or akina Kuria TangaTanga. It's then you will understand where loyalty of most Mt. Kenyans is.

NB: I have given you the background to show Uhuru lost his ground longer than he thinks. He cannot now come with Raila and TELLS PEOPLE HE WANTS TO BE EXECUTIVE PM! Ya kufanya nini?

I don't know about their credibility, but there is no "Ruto vs Uhuru" poll. It is Ruto vs Raila which is the wish and narrative in Tangatanga. Sadly it is not the reality.

[Nefertiti]

Garliv needs to spin why Uhuru can shoot someone on live TV and Jezebel or Raila is blamed. Even Jesus does not enjoy such impunity.

People are being chased with nyahunyo from the hated, unpopular Uhuru's meetings. He is bashing them and preaching BBI. They still insist on attending. We would have to shutter our minds like ostrich to buy your story.

[Garliv]

Kichwa,
BBI with Parliamentary System SHALL NOT PASS IN MT. KENYA. Take that to the bank. It will not. Uhuru ni yeye ataenda.

Its better he campaign for Raila as President and him as PM kama Duale. Not Parliamentary system and Not regional governments. Ruto is caught between this intraGema Civil war engineered by Uhuru and the populace is willingly back Ruto.

Wacha Wewe, Mt. Kenya will do what Ouru tell them to do.  They loved Ruto because Ouru told them to. Now that Ouru has changed his mind about Ruto they too will.  There is really nothing unique about Mt. Kenya.  They do what they are told to do.  Mt. Kenya does not have to love Raila nor do luos have to love Ouru. BBI is a compromise document for all Kenyans. Ruto is stuck like a broken record with the discredited Kalenjin/Kikuyu tyranny of numbers.  Some people thought that this Kalenjin/Kikuyu coalition would carry the day for another 50 years. The problem with that coalition was that it was unstable because it left too many people out and required rigging to make it work. Ruto was trying to fix it so that it would not require rigging but he could not because Ruto was leaving out the politically mighty luo tribe.  Ouru and Raila are putting together through BBI a better, much bigger and a more politically stable political vehicle. Ruto is offering nothing new but the discredited and loathed kikuyu/Kalenjin crap. BBI is like opening a new bar in the neighborhood. Ruto needs to come up with something better or he is going down.  This is not about kikuyus anymore.