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China weathers the trade war
« on: December 16, 2019, 07:29:13 AM »

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042213/chinas-industrial-engine-rebounded-strongly-last-month-amid
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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2019, 04:49:49 AM »

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042213/chinas-industrial-engine-rebounded-strongly-last-month-amid

Fake News!!!
Not According to Trump..
In my opinion the only thing that could have slowed China to a crawl was TPP. Trump killed it.

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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2019, 08:51:54 AM »
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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2019, 02:47:50 AM »

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042213/chinas-industrial-engine-rebounded-strongly-last-month-amid

Fake News!!!
Not According to Trump..
In my opinion the only thing that could have slowed China to a crawl was TPP. Trump killed it.
https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3042069/trade-war-breakthrough-us-and-china-reach-phase-one-deal
They've been negotiating for almost two years and in the end they told China to do whatever it takes to make Trump look good.
TPP agreement could have done it wonderfully, but because it was Obama's child, he decided to kill it.
China is now stronger economically and she has to spend the political capital she now has - courtesy of Trump, around the world.

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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2019, 05:50:35 AM »
They need to burry XI asap.

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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2019, 07:06:59 PM »
Lakini SCMP is as reliable as Fox on Trump
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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2019, 08:38:20 PM »
Lakini SCMP is as reliable as Fox on Trump
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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2019, 10:03:29 PM »
SCMP is quite independent Hong Kong media. Their extensive coverage of the Umbrella Movement is telling. In the Mainland it's like only a few extinction rebellion nutcases... folks are not aware of any problem. :)
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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2020, 08:29:41 PM »
COVID-19 will shrink China a lot.
H1N1, SARS, COVID, what next?
Businesses will be looking into diversifying to other Asian and maybe Africa.

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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2020, 09:27:02 PM »
COVID-19 will shrink China a lot.
H1N1, SARS, COVID, what next?
Businesses will be looking into diversifying to other Asian and maybe Africa.

Corona is global and China is doing better than most countries esp Europe and US.

Coronavirus: Italy's death toll overtakes China's
https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/world/2020-03-19-coronavirus-italys-death-toll-overtakes-chinas/
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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2020, 08:29:36 AM »
China has offered to help Italy and many "western" countries to manage corona. They also want to build a 8.3B medical research facility in Nairobi. Kung Fu is not a joke. I think they have turned around their infection rate as Europeans drop like flies.
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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2020, 10:44:08 AM »
COVID-19 will shrink China a lot.
H1N1, SARS, COVID, what next?
Businesses will be looking into diversifying to other Asian and maybe Africa.
Bruh, you're behind news. China has been reporting fewer and fewer new infections in the past two weeks and now is down to NIL two days in a row. Of their 80,000+ total infections to date, well over 70,000 are fully recovered with only about 6,000 active infections, about two-thirds of which are mild. Total deaths to date about 3,200. That, my friend, looks like a clear win. They're beating the virus.

Meanwhile, Italy, Spain, Germany, the U.S., France are reporting thousands of new infections daily EACH! Of the 35,000 plus total Italian infections by yesterday, (Edit, just read, it's now 41,000 plus...that's 6,000 more since yesterday for crying out loud) only 4,000 are fully recovered. 3,400 plus dead, more than china, and not a hint that the infection rate is slowing down. In fact if you look at the EU as a block, they've more infections than China and showing no signs of defeating it yet.

Italy long surpassed Iran, Spain has too, now, and it looks like Germany will do that today or tomorrow, and France won't be too far behind. If anyone is in danger of getting 'shrunk' by corona, it appears to be Europe, starting with Italy. Italy is now the epicenter of infections with over 30,000 active infections. If we look at just the 5 most affected EU countries, it's a disaster. Like I said, Africa should've banned travel from Europe 2/3 weeks ago. I'm sure we'd have zero or fewer than ten on the continent if we had done that.

Keep up with all the numbers here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/
Updated like every few minutes.

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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2020, 01:31:26 PM »
The EU generally and Italy in particular have an aging population. Partially explains for the high infection and death rate. The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.

Mwafrika madondo-ugali are very healthy adults with man kids. Youths are 70% or thereabouts - who reside in prone towns. The elderly are fewer due to low lifespan and mostly inhabit the sparse rural country.

The Kibra endowed mjengo crew who uproot rail for sport might catch it and never notice. Just shrug it off as normal flu. :) while the European 90yo's on Cerelac and diapers will die in a few days.
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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2020, 03:39:35 PM »
The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.
The conspiracy theorist in me is tempted to think this was being tested as some kind of population control/culling tool but went bad before perfection. Very few people under 19 affected. Seems it's out to catch anyone with little 'productive potential' who might be deemed a drain on resources.

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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #15 on: March 20, 2020, 05:08:14 PM »
The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.
The conspiracy theorist in me is tempted to think this was being tested as some kind of population control/culling tool but went bad before perfection. Very few people under 19 affected. Seems it's out to catch anyone with little 'productive potential' who might be deemed a drain on resources.

Nuh, not so. The info available shows it was a lab mishap. As in a perfect carrier bacterium accidentally let to fuse onto the virus which abruptly mutated into a novelic evil organism.

Microbiologically - it may appear counter-intuitive that kids are relatively resistant. But viruses unlike bacteria bypass the immune system. Kids have a fast heartrate, pulse and general circulatory system that is inhospitable to viral mutation. Coupled with purer bodies with fewer potential carrier bacteria. So the poor virus won't multiply nor survive in the kid. Exactly the opposite for the elderly and the ill.

But I do allow for that possibility. A biotool. Things are rarely as they seem.
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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #16 on: March 20, 2020, 05:35:58 PM »
Even normal flu is known to kill the old and vulnerable. No conspiracy here. The consumption of wild animals is well known source of various unknown infections. From HIV to ebola, these all come from wild animals and not some labs as many tend to think.

The conspiracy theorist in me is tempted to think this was being tested as some kind of population control/culling tool but went bad before perfection. Very few people under 19 affected. Seems it's out to catch anyone with little 'productive potential' who might be deemed a drain on resources.

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« Reply #17 on: March 20, 2020, 05:40:16 PM »
Italy has on average the oldest population in Europe. Also the Italian social structure plays a big role. Three generations tend to live day to day life very close to each other. So the old are unlike in many other European countries not in old people's homes, but are taken care of by their children and grandchildren. The contact to other generations is there which brings about problems in social distancing.

The EU generally and Italy in particular have an aging population. Partially explains for the high infection and death rate. The older you are the higher the risk of adverse illness on infection or death. Kids are the least vulnerable.

Mwafrika madondo-ugali are very healthy adults with man kids. Youths are 70% or thereabouts - who reside in prone towns. The elderly are fewer due to low lifespan and mostly inhabit the sparse rural country.

The Kibra endowed mjengo crew who uproot rail for sport might catch it and never notice. Just shrug it off as normal flu. :) while the European 90yo's on Cerelac and diapers will die in a few days.

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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2020, 05:46:25 PM »
Agreed.
Even normal flu is known to kill the old and vulnerable. No conspiracy here. The consumption of wild animals is well known source of various unknown infections. From HIV to ebola, these all come from wild animals and not some labs as many tend to think.

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Re: China weathers the trade war
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2020, 05:47:42 PM »
Even normal flu is known to kill the old and vulnerable. No conspiracy here. The consumption of wild animals is well known source of various unknown infections. From HIV to ebola, these all come from wild animals and not some labs as many tend to think.

The conspiracy theorist in me is tempted to think this was being tested as some kind of population control/culling tool but went bad before perfection. Very few people under 19 affected. Seems it's out to catch anyone with little 'productive potential' who might be deemed a drain on resources.

Homo sapiens has eaten wild animals for a long time.  What is new that causes these unknown infections to become known?  Is it that these things are not new but rather that we can now detect many of them? :shock:
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