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Ruto-Kiunjuri 2012 ticket - you heard it here first in 2016
« on: November 03, 2019, 08:54:05 AM »
Lawmakers Kabinga Wathayu (Mwea), Munene Wambugu (Kirinyaga Central) and Zachary Thuku (Kinangop) described Mr Kiunjuri as a seasoned leader capable of uniting all others in the region.
Mr Wathayu said Mr Kiunjuri is a hard working leader who should be elevated to the top in the region.

Five members of the Kirinyaga County Assembly - Pius Njogu (Thiba), Gudson Muchina (Tebere), Erastus Ireri (Ngariama), Fredrick Bundi (Njukiini) and Kinyua Wangui (Mutira) - echoed the MP's sentiments.

https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/MPs-want-Kiunjuri-Mt-Kenya-kingpin/1064-5333600-og8wdkz/index.html

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2019, 10:58:47 AM »
This will be the lowest point in central politic next election of Uhuru. Kiunjuri is shallow. He is an idiot and populist. My late cousin who schooled with him claimed that in his hey days kiunjuri was just a loose mouth. He had this habit of making fun of nandis. So Nandi students took him to eldoret Nandi bar and after he got drunk he started running his mouth and that when he was beaten like a dog by locals and his collegemates left him there. He never made fun of nandis anymore

It won't surprise me the quality of voters is diminishing

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Re: Ruto-Kiunjuri 2012 ticket - you heard it here first in 2016
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2019, 01:02:49 PM »
The could not defend his seat as governor. Let us first wait for the reaction from the Merus and Embus. Remember GEMA wa originally Gikuyu, Embu, Meru and Akamba. So far Akamba jumped ship ages ago and soon the other E and M will follow.

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« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2019, 02:56:41 PM »
The could not defend his seat as governor. Let us first wait for the reaction from the Merus and Embus. Remember GEMA wa originally Gikuyu, Embu, Meru and Akamba. So far Akamba jumped ship ages ago and soon the other E and M will follow.
Ruto planned this well.. trouble some munyas were fell..and will be Keen to square with kiraitu.That leaves us with Embus with speaker seat carrot..I don't think Ruto will retain him if he wins...he will be given another job.. and small boy Prof from stronghold...who will want to cause trouble..but he can be convinced to go for governorship.The only threat was PK and Martha but they are kaput.Sort of GEMA getting a hero like James Mwangi to politics..Mwangi Kiunjuri has it.He has GEMA diaspora votes..those are like 1m plus...about 25% of rift valley, he has nyeri and kirinyanga.We have small Muranga problem with Was Iria..but the milk man is small baby in politics.Kiambu know they have had their 10yrs with Uhuru except for the deluded Moses kuria

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Re: Ruto-Kiunjuri 2012 ticket - you heard it here first in 2016
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2019, 03:02:20 PM »
This will be the lowest point in central politic next election of Uhuru. Kiunjuri is shallow. He is an idiot and populist. My late cousin who schooled with him claimed that in his hey days kiunjuri was just a loose mouth. He had this habit of making fun of nandis. So Nandi students took him to eldoret Nandi bar and after he got drunk he started running his mouth and that when he was beaten like a dog by locals and his collegemates left him there. He never made fun of nandis anymore

It won't surprise me the quality of voters is diminishing
Kiunjuri has grown from a tout to a serious political operator.Hw declared he was worth 1billion plus during his vetting.His party had a good showing compared to Martha Narc.He has planted and financed many of the current kikuyu MPs..he is also no push over and when shit hit the fan he can wage war against kenyattas.He is going to emerge from shadow with BBI..I think 2020 is going to be the defining moment for GEMA...Kenyatta can choose to play Ball or Ruto-Kiunjuri will do to them what Ruto did Moi..who is dying like an old dog..unloved except by his family.Kiunjuri just need kameme fm....and Ruto already got the mic ready there..so he can deploy his deep kikuyu wisdom hahaha.Uhuru I hope is smart enough to avoid ba kikuyu revolution against his family...the ground there is just waiting for a warrior like Kiunjuri to lead them out of Kenyatta bondage.Its bad enough kikuyu think Uhuru has done little in central..SGR the 10B dollars investment avoid kikuyu land like a plague.. Naivasha is actually Suswa about 30kms from Maa Mahiu... The brother Brookside greed add insult to injury to kikuyus who now love milk and cows than my people ever did.while the sister is engaged in moi era like grabbing at afya house...it  most tragic many kikuyus see Kenyatta trying to endager the lives & properties of their diaspora by reckless war with Kalenjin for an handshake with a man who had been vanguished.BBI parliamentary will the tipping point for Kiunjuri the tout to take on the mighty Mama Ngina and his kids.


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Re: Ruto-Kiunjuri 2012 ticket - you heard it here first in 2016
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2019, 04:24:40 PM »
This will be the lowest point in central politic next election of Uhuru. Kiunjuri is shallow. He is an idiot and populist. My late cousin who schooled with him claimed that in his hey days kiunjuri was just a loose mouth. He had this habit of making fun of nandis. So Nandi students took him to eldoret Nandi bar and after he got drunk he started running his mouth and that when he was beaten like a dog by locals and his collegemates left him there. He never made fun of nandis anymore

It won't surprise me the quality of voters is diminishing
Kiunjuri has grown from a tout to a serious political operator.Hw declared he was worth 1billion plus during his vetting.His party had a good showing compared to Martha Narc.He has planted and financed many of the current kikuyu MPs..he is also no push over and when shit hit the fan he can wage war against kenyattas.He is going to emerge from shadow with BBI..I think 2020 is going to be the defining moment for GEMA...Kenyatta can choose to play Ball or Ruto-Kiunjuri will do to them what Ruto did Moi..who is dying like an old dog..unloved except by his family.Kiunjuri just need kameme fm....and Ruto already got the mic ready there..so he can deploy his deep kikuyu wisdom hahaha.Uhuru I hope is smart enough to avoid ba kikuyu revolution against his family...the ground there is just waiting for a warrior like Kiunjuri to lead them out of Kenyatta bondage.Its bad enough kikuyu think Uhuru has done little in central..SGR the 10B dollars investment avoid kikuyu land like a plague.. Naivasha is actually Suswa about 30kms from Maa Mahiu... The brother Brookside greed add insult to injury to kikuyus who now love milk and cows than my people ever did.while the sister is engaged in moi era like grabbing at afya house...it  most tragic many kikuyus see Kenyatta trying to endager the lives & properties of their diaspora by reckless war with Kalenjin for an handshake with a man who had been vanguished.BBI parliamentary will the tipping point for Kiunjuri the tout to take on the mighty Mama Ngina and his kids.

Kiunjuri has no clout to wage war against kenyattas. Even a mere mp like ngunjiri or kuria can take him on. Even that 1 billioj in weslth is just an hype. I doubt Kiunjuri has cash to wage a campaign

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« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2019, 06:14:25 PM »
Kenyattas were going nowhere if Ruto & Moi had not seen value in Uhuru.Kibaki and other leaders that emerged post Jomo run the show.Uhuru is going to become lameduck soon as folks focus on the future.Mwangi Kiunjuri has clear shot and is emerging from the woodwork.

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« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2019, 06:20:30 PM »
 :D :D






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« Reply #9 on: November 03, 2019, 07:04:34 PM »
:D :D







This is politics..more an art of persuasion and strategy..not science.Be prepared to have a shrubbing DPork

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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2019, 07:26:00 PM »
I assure you you cannot reach the horizon - no matter how forked your tongue - it is a mirage.

Uhurutopia, Punguza, Mariga - were all horizons we never reached - now you are onto Ruto-Kiunjuri. I think at some point you were preaching Ruto-Waiguru. Or Ruto-Muturi. Now Waiguru is drumming Mariga. :D

But Imran and BBI are here and now - deal with reality not theories. I see Babu backing Uhuru 2.0 for Exec PM - as he go for ceremonial PORK. Kiunjuri is DOA - your watermelon need to shop for a Luhya. I know the dwindling Kikuyu numbers give you some hope.
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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2019, 08:23:44 PM »
You are terrible because you watch the pawns not the quuens and the king's

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2019, 09:55:21 PM »
The queens and kings are lined up against your boy.
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2019, 09:06:45 AM »
This will be the lowest point in central politic next election of Uhuru. Kiunjuri is shallow. He is an idiot and populist. My late cousin who schooled with him claimed that in his hey days kiunjuri was just a loose mouth. He had this habit of making fun of nandis. So Nandi students took him to eldoret Nandi bar and after he got drunk he started running his mouth and that when he was beaten like a dog by locals and his collegemates left him there. He never made fun of nandis anymore

It won't surprise me the quality of voters is diminishing
Kiunjuri has grown from a tout to a serious political operator.Hw declared he was worth 1billion plus during his vetting.His party had a good showing compared to Martha Narc.He has planted and financed many of the current kikuyu MPs..he is also no push over and when shit hit the fan he can wage war against kenyattas.He is going to emerge from shadow with BBI..I think 2020 is going to be the defining moment for GEMA...Kenyatta can choose to play Ball or Ruto-Kiunjuri will do to them what Ruto did Moi..who is dying like an old dog..unloved except by his family.Kiunjuri just need kameme fm....and Ruto already got the mic ready there..so he can deploy his deep kikuyu wisdom hahaha.Uhuru I hope is smart enough to avoid ba kikuyu revolution against his family...the ground there is just waiting for a warrior like Kiunjuri to lead them out of Kenyatta bondage.Its bad enough kikuyu think Uhuru has done little in central..SGR the 10B dollars investment avoid kikuyu land like a plague.. Naivasha is actually Suswa about 30kms from Maa Mahiu... The brother Brookside greed add insult to injury to kikuyus who now love milk and cows than my people ever did.while the sister is engaged in moi era like grabbing at afya house...it  most tragic many kikuyus see Kenyatta trying to endager the lives & properties of their diaspora by reckless war with Kalenjin for an handshake with a man who had been vanguished.BBI parliamentary will the tipping point for Kiunjuri the tout to take on the mighty Mama Ngina and his kids.
Yes there'll be a rebellion against the kenyattas but it wont be led by kiunjuri.  Kiunjuri is one of the people in government who hasn't done anything or actually made things worse. Farmers are complaining in central, he's the CS and now instead of even trying to offer solutions he's just politicking. Where do you get the idea that kiunjuri controls 1m kiuks in diaspora? The man can't even win governship in his home county laikipia. The man business has collapsed, his wealth was pegged on his sagana electricity poles factory, after kplc started using concrete poles his business has collapsed, obviously being a crook probably he has stolen now that he's a CS.
And for the record kameme has less than 20% marketshare of kuik radio market, your man was sold a dog.

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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2019, 09:54:06 AM »
Kiunjuri is the best of the worst of generation of kikuyus leaders - because your alternative seem to be the joker Moses Kuria - who come from Gatundu South with Uhuru.

I think Kiunjuri has or will have - RV kikuyus - beyond Laikipia - all the way to Uasin Gishu. He may have lost the Governor - but he has senator and all Laikipia Mps. Nakuru mps - are firmly in Kiunjuri camp. Diaspora Kikuyus see Kiunjuri as their own.

And then Nyeri-Kirinyanga also see Kiunjuri as their own. That leave us with little problem with Muranga where milk-man will want to play hard ball.As for Kiambu - by virtue of Uhuru - they are out - obviously likes of Kabete Mp is destined fro great things - possibly Finance Minister.

It is easy to dismiss Kiunjuri until you're told to bring the alternative. And cut him some slack agriculture was long devolved. Peleka makasirio :) kwa gavan wenu.

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« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2019, 12:22:15 PM »
Kiunjuri is the best of the worst of generation of kikuyus leaders - because your alternative seem to be the joker Moses Kuria - who come from Gatundu South with Uhuru.

I think Kiunjuri has or will have - RV kikuyus - beyond Laikipia - all the way to Uasin Gishu. He may have lost the Governor - but he has senator and all Laikipia Mps. Nakuru mps - are firmly in Kiunjuri camp. Diaspora Kikuyus see Kiunjuri as their own.

And then Nyeri-Kirinyanga also see Kiunjuri as their own. That leave us with little problem with Muranga where milk-man will want to play hard ball.As for Kiambu - by virtue of Uhuru - they are out - obviously likes of Kabete Mp is destined fro great things - possibly Finance Minister.

It is easy to dismiss Kiunjuri until you're told to bring the alternative. And cut him some slack agriculture was long devolved. Peleka makasirio :) kwa gavan wenu.
Nyeri-kirinyaga see kiunjuri as their own? Where do you get that? The RV kiuk Mps are in tanga tanga not necessarily with kiunjuri. Even laikipia kiunjuri isn't influential, the only kiunjuri disciple in laikipia is the women rep bimbo waruguru.
Agriculture is devolved but policy making isn't. This is where he has failed miserably, we have his ministry proposing to outlaw manure, milk hawking etc. Then the fool can't even ensure fertilizer imported to the country is up standard(him and the other moron munya).
Why would kuria be dismissed cause he's from Gatundu? Central or gema doesn't need one leader, most likely scenario central we have several leaders depending on the issues at hand. The days of one tribal king are over, uhuru is the last gema tribal king. Its the same thing happening in ukambani.

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« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2019, 01:36:12 PM »
Read the first post here - these are nyeri & kirinyanga mps. Laikipia apart from Governor - are all for Kiunjuri. RV kiuks are in Ruto for sake of peace of their people. Kiunjuri is an icing on their cake. Because for long time they feel - central kikuyus - misuse them.

This time round RV Kikuyus will break up with Central Kikuyus if need be. They have enjoyed peace the last 10yrs and don't want somebody re-opening old wounds - and also to win stuff like senate or governor in nakuru or laikipia - you have to be friendly to all tribes.

So the dying breed of kikuyu nationalism like Kuria are going nowhere.

Kiunjuri is the best of the worst of generation of kikuyus leaders - because your alternative seem to be the joker Moses Kuria - who come from Gatundu South with Uhuru.

I think Kiunjuri has or will have - RV kikuyus - beyond Laikipia - all the way to Uasin Gishu. He may have lost the Governor - but he has senator and all Laikipia Mps. Nakuru mps - are firmly in Kiunjuri camp. Diaspora Kikuyus see Kiunjuri as their own.

And then Nyeri-Kirinyanga also see Kiunjuri as their own. That leave us with little problem with Muranga where milk-man will want to play hard ball.As for Kiambu - by virtue of Uhuru - they are out - obviously likes of Kabete Mp is destined fro great things - possibly Finance Minister.

It is easy to dismiss Kiunjuri until you're told to bring the alternative. And cut him some slack agriculture was long devolved. Peleka makasirio :) kwa gavan wenu.
Nyeri-kirinyaga see kiunjuri as their own? Where do you get that? The RV kiuk Mps are in tanga tanga not necessarily with kiunjuri. Even laikipia kiunjuri isn't influential, the only kiunjuri disciple in laikipia is the women rep bimbo waruguru.
Agriculture is devolved but policy making isn't. This is where he has failed miserably, we have his ministry proposing to outlaw manure, milk hawking etc. Then the fool can't even ensure fertilizer imported to the country is up standard(him and the other moron munya).
Why would kuria be dismissed cause he's from Gatundu? Central or gema doesn't need one leader, most likely scenario central we have several leaders depending on the issues at hand. The days of one tribal king are over, uhuru is the last gema tribal king. Its the same thing happening in ukambani.

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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2019, 04:09:17 PM »
So Gema rebel against Uhuru but go to Ruto? Their grievance is Jubilee. Kiunjuri or Kuria appeal is pegged on Uhuru retirement. Now Uhuru 2.0 and Kiunjuri what - ceremonial PORK? Uhuru has trashed MOU and Ruto needs to shop for a Luhya - Madvd or Rectangular.
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2019, 08:40:50 PM »
Guy has no clout, this is the folly of Ruto, he does not want to give anyone 50-50 government. So he picks no bodies to try to front them. Look at Jumwa, that sports minister, he is afraid of strong independent leaders, and this is his weakpoint

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2019, 09:12:51 PM »
yulemsee - none of the big fish want alliance with Ruto. He lacks choices. You can see in Kibra where he brought Duale - a Somali. :) It was rumored he has Kibwana who now has joined Raila.
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