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Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« on: October 14, 2019, 11:52:25 AM »
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/Ruto-bid-to-hold-Jubilee-meeting-hits-wall-/1064-5309880-ucy00t/index.html

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2019, 03:50:38 PM »
 :) any rebuttal from Pundit?
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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2019, 04:16:15 PM »
I think Ruto has responded to that on Twitter.Said he chaired the iebc meeting and are inseparable with Ruto.I am not sure what this is all about because the voting record in parliament say something else

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2019, 04:31:53 PM »
Ruto is beginning to sound like Trump. Seeing ghosts everywhere. Who owns the Nation? 8) Debt ceiling is handled by the Committee on Delegated Legislation - not the amorphous IBEC which handles county borrowing. Last i heard the governors snubbed Ruto IBEC meeting.
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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2019, 06:35:51 PM »
Where they when elections laws were being amended recently.Desperados for two years trying to find relevance aware Jubilee has 200 out of 350mps.What can a handful of wiper and 59 odm mps really do..there are about that many kalenjins mp alone.They should have some self esteem like MaDVD and do their job as an opposition...not bend on all fours for anything.

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Re: Ruto tries to blackmail Uhuru,this guy is surely desperate
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2019, 08:23:39 PM »
Actually Uhuru is forced to manga manga in ODM or Wiper due to Jubilee mayhem. It is the Jubilee Party Leader who has joined the opposition. :D When is Mr 200 MPs chairing his first PG? We see if only Kamanda, Wamuchomba and who else will skip it - and how the we-are-inseparable spin plays out. They would need GSU or Recce to keep the peace. Either way with BBI crunch-time will arrive sooner than later.
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« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2019, 10:23:25 PM »
Jubilee is intact..just a few noises from sore losers of 2017 election and few lankeys - trying to make some money from Kibicho-Nancy. Uhuru obviously is having the best time of his presidency. He is virtually rulling unopposed. He doesn't even have to meet Jubilee mps for parliamentary agenda to move forward because some desperados are always willing to play along - hoping that Uhuru has suddenly abandoned Ruto for them. It's crazy. Yes BBI crunch time is coming.
Actually Uhuru is forced to manga manga in ODM or Wiper due to Jubilee mayhem. It is the Jubilee Party Leader who has joined the opposition. :D When is Mr 200 MPs chairing his first PG? We see if only Kamanda, Wamuchomba and who else will skip it - and how the we-are-inseparable spin plays out. They would need GSU or Recce to keep the peace. Either way with BBI crunch-time will arrive sooner than later.

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2019, 12:39:16 AM »
Jubilee can't agree on anything - Handshake, BBI, referendum, war on graft, PG, party elections. Mariga. NOTHING. Your stories and theories here - vitendawili - are very entertaining. It like Gum on the gate or Pinocchio. That Uhuru wants to retire. That Gema will refuse a second bite at the apple for Ruto. You're so naive. I can't wait to see MPs or MCAs ignore their own interests for Ruto. Once the deck is reshuffled - to parliamentary - it a new ballgame. There will be no Jubilee to talk about. Right now we are waiting to see the "genius move" - imposing the incorrigible celeb cum gambler - tramp tribe in Kibra. It a mountain even with gazillion of handouts and state dinners at Karen.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2019, 07:46:11 AM »
Simple question that you didn't answer.Where were these odm and wiper desperados when elections laws regarding replacing iebc commissioners passed.Bottomline Uhuru and Jubilee can draw the fine line when they need to string along the desperados and when not.Like now in Kibra... Jubilee is giving ODM some sleepless nights.Uhuru is destroying Raila without him even knowing.He had hope he would pull 2.0 KANU rebellion but Jubilee know his game.So once Uhuru throws him under the bus where will he run to.At leaast maDVD will have his head high.

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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2019, 08:35:39 AM »
ODM or Babu does not have a real problem with Chebukati - the toxic Nkatha et al are already out. If it was contentious - you would have had PGs and lobbying - and definitely high turnout on the floor. You could equally ask where was united Jubilee when debt ceiling was raised. The report says Tanga Tanga and their chairman Ichung'wa make some noises - and lost. About Kibra - I told you Ruto is analogous to athlete who win by heavy doping - it like Moi 92 with Jirongos raining all over :) - but even that won't save him. Let see how his slay queen performs.
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2019, 09:01:19 AM »
I thought you were in IEBC this week as ODM accusing 2 out 3 (2 Somalis) for meeting Duale every breakfast :). IEBC has no issues. The issues is ODM refusal to accept democracy. Obviously ODM had serious issues with election act being amended to replace IEBC commissioners enough to oppose the changes.

Anyway once we have replace the 4 missing commissioners - IEBC can go ahead to conduct elections or referendum. We will see if ODM will finally accept democracy when the beating of the century in 2022 by Dr Ruto - who is heavily doped (nobody stopped Luo althetes from dopping).

ODM or Babu does not have a real problem with Chebukati - the toxic Nkatha et al are already out. If it was contentious - you would have had PGs and lobbying - and definitely high turnout on the floor. You could equally ask where was united Jubilee when debt ceiling was raised. The report says Tanga Tanga and their chairman Ichung'wa make some noises - and lost. About Kibra - I told you Ruto is analogous to athlete who win by heavy doping - it like Moi 92 with Jirongos raining all over :) - but even that won't save him. Let see how his slay queen performs.

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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2019, 01:53:27 PM »
Luo iko Dennis Oliech, etc - every region has its glory. The heavy doper has no real talent - no real following. Everywhere he wins on his own - which is actually only Mandera - he has won through doping.

ODM noise about rigging is a rallying cry for Luo. I wonder how Ruto will handle defeat - in referendum or 2022? Oh wait - of course we saw 2008 - and you repeatedly tell us about the quivers. In fact there would be war - not for Ruto the Democrat merely losing - but for betraying Jubilee MOU. The reason the 2017 boycott was relatively peaceful is the absence of Ruto and Kalenjin in ODM.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2019, 01:58:10 PM »
So you are against Ruto using money to campaign in Kibera - but support ODM use of violence, propaganda against IEBC (reckless dangerous thing) and tribal war cry.

You're just a joke.

Again time is the arbitrator. We will see whose strategy will nail 2022 - Babu (with reputation of a sore loser) and my man - the go-getter Ruto.

Luo iko Dennis Oliech, etc - every region has its glory. The heavy doper has no real talent - no real following. Everywhere he wins on his own - which is actually only Mandera - he has won through doping.

ODM noise about rigging is a rallying cry for Luo. I wonder how Ruto will handle defeat - in referendum or 2022? Oh wait - of course we saw 2008 - and you repeatedly tell us about the quivers. In fact there would be war - not for Ruto the Democrat merely losing - but for betraying Jubilee MOU. The reason the 2017 boycott was relatively peaceful is the absence of Ruto and Kalenjin in ODM.

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« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2019, 04:16:02 PM »
There is nothing dangerous about ODM rallying cry. It just kawa politics. That is why there is no law against alleging rigging - while doping is illegal. Of course my stance on violence - unlike your manifesto of quivers - i dropped NASA like it's hot when they started NRM nonsense. Despite backing Babu for PORK.

We don't need to wait for 2022 to kick Ruto behind - Kibra and BBI are in a few weeks. Your rusty legal arguments here - suspension of governors, Jomo statue, BBI - have been hitting a dead wall - it laughable. Wewe ni pundit bandia.

So you are against Ruto using money to campaign in Kibera - but support ODM use of violence, propaganda against IEBC (reckless dangerous thing) and tribal war cry.

You're just a joke.

Again time is the arbitrator. We will see whose strategy will nail 2022 - Babu (with reputation of a sore loser) and my man - the go-getter Ruto.
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« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2019, 04:39:36 PM »
My prediction you should care most about - Ruto will win 2022 - and Raila will be dumped by Uhuru.
There is nothing dangerous about ODM rallying cry. It just kawa politics. That is why there is no law against alleging rigging - while doping is illegal. Of course my stance on violence - unlike your manifesto of quivers - i dropped NASA like it's hot when they started NRM nonsense. Despite backing Babu for PORK.

We don't need to wait for 2022 to kick Ruto behind - Kibra and BBI are in a few weeks. Your rusty legal arguments here - suspension of governors, Jomo statue, BBI - have been hitting a dead wall - it laughable. Wewe ni pundit bandia.

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« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2019, 05:58:52 PM »
Kibra ulisha surrender :) BBI is at hand - seem now it has receded with the rest of your horizons. That's right - cling to 2022 - cause it's all you got. That and the dodgy "track record".
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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2019, 08:59:26 PM »
My track record speak for itself...that is why I don't change or hide or disappear.The big prize is Ruto 2022.Uhuru already done with his term...he pulled jujistu move that ensure he rules bila fujo and for me has already began retirement.He has no time for politics or politicians..that is a man drawing pension.

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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2019, 09:25:53 PM »
That's ok - hope is more vital than water for humans. Uhuru sponsored Handshake & BBI - to flush Jubilee MOU into the sewer - without facing Ruto wrath. You told us yourself - throughout their first term - how Ruto is very dangerous if scorned. The jujitsu move is on Ruto not Babu. Jomo 2 & Gema are not about to hand over power to Moi 2.0. Uhuru interests are aligned with Babu at present.
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« Reply #18 on: October 15, 2019, 09:31:19 PM »
How is that Mariga experiment working out? This is a real test for Ruto 2022. If he wins in Kibra his stock for 2022 will be sky high but if he lose it will all be downhill moving forward. I noticed all luhya politicians have abandoned Mariga, he is on his own well surrounded by empty head kikuyu politicians like that failed musician Jaguar and washed out comedian Kiarie....why would Ruto wish this on Nairobi people. You rig a musician in starehe, a comedian in Dagoretti, a criminal as governor and now a non registered voter in Kibra...what did Nairobi people do to Ruto? Nairobi deserve better representation.

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« Reply #19 on: October 15, 2019, 09:32:47 PM »
I will pay an hour's attention to your "track record" - which is pure smoke. Soon - will flush it down the sewer where it belongs.
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