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Offline RV Pundit

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I think we will soon go Nigeria way when it come to Census - where each county will be trying to inflate their figures.

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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2019, 06:50:32 PM »
Lol this after your holier than thou lecture on negativism when I questioned Mutua numbers... wonders never cease
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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2019, 07:05:46 PM »
I don't think riggers will care about rigging data about water or toilets. I am talking raw population figures. It's improbable that Mutua will go around falsfying data about 30 plus socio-economic indicators that census are collecting.
Lol this after your holier than thou lecture on negativism when I questioned Mutua numbers... wonders never cease

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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2019, 07:07:44 PM »
Any data that will be key-in - after 24/25th - will be suspect. I am sure someone will have known based on the tablets syncing how the figures look like.

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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2019, 07:12:15 PM »
Pundit kweli - i said you will be crying rigging at referendum -didn't see the tears raining so soon.
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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2019, 07:55:00 PM »
Pundit kweli - i said you will be crying rigging at referendum -didn't see the tears raining so soon.

Alas there seems to be nothing that cannot be put up for sale in Kenya.  Including fudging numbers.  Tech, which was meant to facilitate things, has only facilitated the corrupt side of things.
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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2019, 08:52:15 PM »
Pundit kweli - i said you will be crying rigging at referendum -didn't see the tears raining so soon.
Our elections are very hard to rig in any scale.I don't think census has any controls.

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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2019, 12:31:23 AM »
Pundit kweli - i said you will be crying rigging at referendum -didn't see the tears raining so soon.
Our elections are very hard to rig in any scale.I don't think census has any controls.

When you contumaciously refuse(at the risk of contempt of court) to permit access to those controls it's possible  8).
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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2019, 08:26:52 AM »
Still shouting about the servers held in France. The data was released in logs. Then ODM wanted to inspect the servers. There are many controls at polling stations to prevent brazen rigging. Where rigging use to happen was Kibaki withholding const tallies and inflating them. That is now not possible because every polling station sends their results to Nairobi as soon as possible. We know the election results in first night. Making polling stations the final tallying center pretty much settled the rigging....it's so granular it's nearly impossible to rig in any scale. Max votes in a polling station is 500.

If rigging happen in servers....you have the manually filled and uploaded forms from polling stations....to compare with. You've got agents with their copies. You have parallel tallying systems by parties...using simple USSD apps.

Nobody has demonstrated how 2013 or 2017 were rigged. Just Raila & his supporters refusing to accept the outcome. The outcome that tribal models like MOASS predicted to the dot. Outcomes that are reflected in parliamentary, senate,MCA and governorship election.

When you contumaciously refuse(at the risk of contempt of court) to permit access to those controls it's possible  8).

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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2019, 12:36:54 PM »
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2019, 06:07:21 PM »
I hope Uhuru doesn't stoop that low. Kenyan deserves better. Census is bigger than politics.
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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2019, 07:55:29 PM »
You got jokes. Honestly, you think someone who stole elections not once but twice cares about census?  This is just a small inconvenience to kenyatta criminal enterprise.
I hope Uhuru doesn't stoop that low. Kenyan deserves better. Census is bigger than politics.

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Re: This census will be rigged - the stakes are higher with devolution
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2019, 09:08:26 PM »
patel kindly repost in English
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