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Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2019, 03:14:08 AM »
Omollo does this suffice as a counterpunch  :)
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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2019, 09:11:52 AM »
Nominated Kamanda and ODM Central outfit - backed by Kibicho-Gitau - are not mainstream GEMA.

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2019, 09:57:14 AM »

It does not look like an endorsement from kamwana.  But this been an open secret since even before kamwana told the hustler he cannot guarantee him GEMA support.
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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2019, 10:07:44 AM »
Omollo does this suffice as a counterpunch  :)
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2019, 12:22:17 PM »
Nominated Kamanda and ODM Central outfit - backed by Kibicho-Gitau - are not mainstream GEMA.
Ruto misread kikuyus hate of reckless looting. Ruto will be home at 7pm if elections were called today. Uhuru is being asked to grow nuts and dissolve cabinet bring in raila and go to coast to drink.

Ruto is done

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2019, 12:30:50 PM »
What will you do when the arrows start raining and you have to deal with a million internal refugees. Kikuyus owes their 1M diaspora some more thinking. Sound like Kikuyu nation need not start war. If kalenjin miss power - they will go for land and business - of diaspora. Plain ABC. Obviously Ruto is just what - 53yrs - and will not mind Raila taking power - in his sunset years - if it comes to that.Your people are cornered. There is either Raila or Ruto at the ballot box. Picking Raila (who has his own huge axe) comes with heavy prices of 1M refugees, street kids and criminals ending mostly in central. I think that is what emboldened Dr Ruto and made Kenyatta delete his facebook account for mentioning "close political ally" in bad light. When you have million of warriors ready for war without you having to do anything - then you're powerful.If Uhuru goes to war with Ruto...then he won't be be at coast but somewhere in Muranga re-activating,arming and training Mungiki - or some Kikuyu defense force - if he is serious about the fate of his people - Kenya Police are busy harassing kenyans and getting drunkard to care about their job of providing security - and like everything the entire kenya is hobbled by tribalism.

Kibaki had deal with Raila's - MOU - he choose to disregard it - and 2007 progrom happened. Uhuru has a deal with Ruto - he disregard it - and 2007 progrom will look like child's play. We soon will be talking of arm race. The economy will obviously tank way before the first arrow is shot. Kikuyus will be moving en-masse to safe grounds as soon as Uhuru and Ruto declare war.
Ruto misread kikuyus hate of reckless looting. Ruto will be home at 7pm if elections were called today. Uhuru is being asked to grow nuts and dissolve cabinet bring in raila and go to coast to drink.

Ruto is done

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2019, 01:02:59 PM »
What will you do when the arrows start raining and you have to deal with a million internal refugees. Kikuyus owes their 1M diaspora some more thinking. Sound like Kikuyu nation need not start war. If kalenjin miss power - they will go for land and business - of diaspora. Plain ABC. Obviously Ruto is just what - 53yrs - and will not mind Raila taking power - in his sunset years - if it comes to that.Your people are cornered. There is either Raila or Ruto at the ballot box. Picking Raila (who has his own huge axe) comes with heavy prices of 1M refugees, street kids and criminals ending mostly in central. I think that is what emboldened Dr Ruto and made Kenyatta delete his facebook account for mentioning "close political ally" in bad light. When you have million of warriors ready for war without you having to do anything - then you're powerful.If Uhuru goes to war with Ruto...then he won't be be at coast but somewhere in Muranga re-activating,arming and training Mungiki - or some Kikuyu defense force - if he is serious about the fate of his people - Kenya Police are busy harassing kenyans and getting drunkard to care about their job of providing security - and like everything the entire kenya is hobbled by tribalism.

Kibaki had deal with Raila's - MOU - he choose to disregard it - and 2007 progrom happened. Uhuru has a deal with Ruto - he disregard it - and 2007 progrom will look like child's play. We soon will be talking of arm race. The economy will obviously tank way before the first arrow is shot. Kikuyus will be moving en-masse to safe grounds as soon as Uhuru and Ruto declare war.
Ruto misread kikuyus hate of reckless looting. Ruto will be home at 7pm if elections were called today. Uhuru is being asked to grow nuts and dissolve cabinet bring in raila and go to coast to drink.

Ruto is done

That is on you and kikuyu in diaspora. We do not hold them hostages they can vote for ruto to keep peace. One thing I know is if kales attack kikuyus while the rest of politcal class is united you will suffer serious deaths inflicted by security forces. If kales attack kikuyus while uhuru is president you will be massacred. Time for pacifying kalenjins is way past. Thubutu

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2019, 01:18:52 PM »
Why are your personalizing. I am just dispassionate pundit who will never attack anybody for politics. I am just telling you what will happen - kenya will go back to 2007 where Kikuyus & Kalenjin are squaring - and don't talk about security forces - Kibaki had them all in 2007 - and it didn't help. If you think Kenyans will suddenly love Kikuyus - then you're in for rude shocks. Once kalenjin starts - the rest will join like 2007. And you'll be sending money to fund Mungiki from Deleware & holding protests rallies outside Trump & UN office in DC & Newyork calling for the arrest of the warlord Ruto. Ruto enjoy the advantage of an ever ready war machinery in Kalenjin that doesn't require any funding or organisation - they just need a cause big enough for war cry big enough - and all it will take is a spark.
That is on you and kikuyu in diaspora. We do not hold them hostages they can vote for ruto to keep peace. One thing I know is if kales attack kikuyus while the rest of politcal class is united you will suffer serious deaths inflicted by security forces. If kales attack kikuyus while uhuru is president you will be massacred. Time for pacifying kalenjins is way past. Thubutu

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2019, 01:24:40 PM »
You is meant for kalenjins. It will be a big miscalculation for kalenjins to attack kikuyus now. This is post pev and no one is going to sit idle and wait for arrows. Uhuru has the state machinery to make sure every. Family kipsigisi burries a family member. Let us see what you got.

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2019, 01:37:00 PM »
Okay we know how this goes. First forget kenya security forces - they cannot be used for partisan tribalistic action - pro-kalenjin forces will be giving kalenjin free pass - while pro-kikuyu will do doing the same - things may get so bad the army may have to be called. Okay but honestly how do you hope to police 1m acre of farms in RV. This is not just one roundabout in Kondele, Kisumu. These are extensive cosmpolitan villages that are hard to police esp at night - where most of the action will happen.Anyway as soon as Uhuru and Ruto part ways - the arm race in both sides will start - you'll need Mungiki and you will try to recruit & arm them - unless you have confidence in police force that will has all tribes - you will probably attempt to transfer all kalenjin out RV -:) but that still won't help.Personally I may have to relocate early from Mavoko - I don't think Kikuyus will be lenient at Kalenjins in diaspora - so every Kalenjin not living in Kalenjin will have to be move early too.You guy start this war...and see how it goes. It could be 92 - where Kalenjin are attacking everyone - or it could be 07 where Kalenjin are mainly attacking Kikuyus. The problem if other tribes back kikuyus - their diaspora in RV will also get a kick - like Gusii got in 07.

You is meant for kalenjins. It will be a big miscalculation for kalenjins to attack kikuyus now. This is post pev and no one is going to sit idle and wait for arrows. Uhuru has the state machinery to make sure every. Family kipsigisi burries a family member. Let us see what you got.

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2019, 01:41:47 PM »
Okay we know how this goes. First forget kenya security forces - they cannot be used for partisan tribalistic action - pro-kalenjin forces will be giving kalenjin free pass - while pro-kikuyu will do doing the same - things may get so bad the army may have to be called. Okay but honestly how do you hope to police 1m acre of farms in RV. This is not just one roundabout in Kondele, Kisumu. These are extensive cosmpolitan villages that are hard to police esp at night - where most of the action will happen.Anyway as soon as Uhuru and Ruto part ways - the arm race in both sides will start - you'll need Mungiki and you will try to recruit & arm them - unless you have confidence in police force that will has all tribes - you will probably attempt to transfer all kalenjin out RV -:) but that still won't help.Personally I may have to relocate early from Mavoko - I don't think Kikuyus will be lenient at Kalenjins in diaspora - so every Kalenjin not living in Kalenjin will have to be move early too.

You guy start this war...and see how it goes.

You is meant for kalenjins. It will be a big miscalculation for kalenjins to attack kikuyus now. This is post pev and no one is going to sit idle and wait for arrows. Uhuru has the state machinery to make sure every. Family kipsigisi burries a family member. Let us see what you got.

The s.art thing for ruto is to wait out 2022. Declare he is not running and then wait till 2024 to hit campaign trail

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2019, 01:45:03 PM »
When he is the front runner in 2022? Why would he do that. He just need to make it clear to Uhuru that he either stick to MOU & return the favour or it's game on. Cowards several times before they are buried.

It's Uhuru who need to accept that his time to retire has come - and not try funny games to extend his rule - at GREAT EXPENSE OF 1M kikuyu lives and properties - and other causalities like many Kalenjin diaspora too who will be getting the revenge kick. Reminds of 92 - my late bro escaped in Thika as other tribes were hunting down kalenjin - pulling them from cars and hacking them.

At heart of next battle is Uhuru refusal to pick DPORK for Ruto as agreed and his attempt it appears to try to extend his rule via constitutional review.

The s.art thing for ruto is to wait out 2022. Declare he is not running and then wait till 2024 to hit campaign trail

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2019, 01:51:22 PM »
When he is the front runner in 2022? Why would he do that. He just need to make it clear to Uhuru that he either stick to MOU & return the favour or it's game on. Cowards several times before they are buried.
The s.art thing for ruto is to wait out 2022. Declare he is not running and then wait till 2024 to hit campaign trail

Ok He needs to run. Uhuru has no intention of honoring mou. Ruto has come to understand this . it is up to ruto strategists to take war to Uhuru. Now ruto is playing defense. He been sidelined since last year. His allies are out of power. The remaining are watching their backs. Rotich tried to lean on uhuru to honor mou. Uhuru went rogue on ruto. Ruto doesn't have any leverage.

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2019, 02:05:01 PM »
I think when you have DPORK that can be fired and have 1M kikuyus as your hostages - then that is damn leverage - lets not talk about money - that Ruto has acquired tonnes of . If Ruto snaps his finger - Kalenjin will want to know - that is damn leverage. Ruto also practically ran the shows in Kamatusa & pastoralist areas and has made serious in roads elsewhere. Damn leverage.

What leverage does Uhuru really have...apart from Raila and state power (which is very limited).

Ok He needs to run. Uhuru has no intention of honoring mou. Ruto has come to understand this . it is up to ruto strategists to take war to Uhuru. Now ruto is playing defense. He been sidelined since last year. His allies are out of power. The remaining are watching their backs. Rotich tried to lean on uhuru to honor mou. Uhuru went rogue on ruto. Ruto doesn't have any leverage.

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2019, 03:52:40 PM »
Jubilee is dead, worst part uhuru people led by Tuju have all the documents pertaining to the party. Time for Ruto people to regroup.  Maina kamanda speaks for mama Ngina and kenyatta family. Jubilee is dead.

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2019, 04:51:52 PM »
Ruto must take Kamanda down. This will send signals to loud mouth holier than thou kenyatta criminal family enterprise apologist.  Kamanda has stolen half of Nairobi and should be the last person to mock people

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2019, 06:14:30 PM »
Ruto must take Kamanda down. This will send signals to loud mouth holier than thou kenyatta criminal family enterprise apologist.  Kamanda has stolen half of Nairobi and should be the last person to mock people

Report kamanda to dci. Kamanda is not that rich.

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Re: Wow wow this was just hard to watch ruto is done
« Reply #19 on: March 24, 2019, 06:34:15 PM »
Jubilee is far from dying. I think majority don't want it dead because nobody can trust Raila and any of his concoction. At end of the day the country is facing Raila v Ruto - and I think it's no brainer here. As long as Raila is the main opponent here - Ruto will sleepwalk to SH.
Jubilee is dead, worst part uhuru people led by Tuju have all the documents pertaining to the party. Time for Ruto people to regroup.  Maina kamanda speaks for mama Ngina and kenyatta family. Jubilee is dead.