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Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« on: October 14, 2018, 01:19:56 PM »
Apparently Raila just want to become a ceremonial pork and let Uhuru become Executive PM.
Uhuru will appoint cabinet with concurrence of Raila and will be in parliament answering questions. A glorified Duale.
Raila will hold the real levers of power - will be commander in Chief of armed forces
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001299007/raila-will-be-president-uhuru-prime-minister-in-2022-mp

I don't think Uhuru will bite this. First trusting Raila is out of questions, secondly from executive PORK to a glorified Duale doesn't sound fun and thirdly executing such a scheme won't be easy - neither will be governing.

The way I see Uhuru - will retire after his term ends and become a Jubilee supreme leader - and get back to enjoying his life - as his son Muhoho prepares for 2032 stab.

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2018, 06:14:24 PM »
So what's the difference between a glorified Dwale and a supreme leader of Jubilee. We are not exactly talking about Mao Tse Dong, are we? Uhuru is supposed to retire and anything close to power is better than herding goats in Gatondo. Supreme leader of Jubilee is a non existent position. Better a glorified Dwale any day.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2018, 06:31:30 PM »
Apparently Raila just want to become a ceremonial pork and let Uhuru become Executive PM.
Uhuru will appoint cabinet with concurrence of Raila and will be in parliament answering questions. A glorified Duale.
Raila will hold the real levers of power - will be commander in Chief of armed forces
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001299007/raila-will-be-president-uhuru-prime-minister-in-2022-mp

I don't think Uhuru will bite this. First trusting Raila is out of questions, secondly from executive PORK to a glorified Duale doesn't sound fun and thirdly executing such a scheme won't be easy - neither will be governing.

The way I see Uhuru - will retire after his term ends and become a Jubilee supreme leader - and get back to enjoying his life - as his son Muhoho prepares for 2032 stab.

I don't think you are sleeping well at night these days. Who says it was "fun" for Putin to let go of President to be a Prime Minister? Sababu ya Katiba yao then he did it anyway and see where he now? Back where he was and there to stay. It was called The Putin-Medvedev tandemocracy. Google that word "tandemocracy".

Having added the Delamere farm and others to his family list of properties, Okuyu wont let Uhuru retire.

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2018, 01:35:49 AM »
Apparently Raila just want to become a ceremonial pork and let Uhuru become Executive PM.
Uhuru will appoint cabinet with concurrence of Raila and will be in parliament answering questions. A glorified Duale.
Raila will hold the real levers of power - will be commander in Chief of armed forces
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001299007/raila-will-be-president-uhuru-prime-minister-in-2022-mp

I don't think Uhuru will bite this. First trusting Raila is out of questions, secondly from executive PORK to a glorified Duale doesn't sound fun and thirdly executing such a scheme won't be easy - neither will be governing.

The way I see Uhuru - will retire after his term ends and become a Jubilee supreme leader - and get back to enjoying his life - as his son Muhoho prepares for 2032 stab.

what makes you think Jubilee will survive Uhuru exit ?
given the history of political parties in .ke and the fact
that jubilee is a party formed by two crimes against humanity
criminals for the sole purpose of fighting the ICC charges
from the position of PORK/DPORK




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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2018, 08:29:28 AM »
They are both the same. Uhuru has been ultimate PORK and anything from now is basically downhill. He can choose to hang on to illusion of power or retire, earn a decent send off package, pick Ruto's deputy, remain a respected Jubilee party leader with influence and generally retire with some assignment here and there.

Or well re-join parliament as PM and have to deal with murky politics day in day out - damage the relationship btw Kikuyus and Kalenjin forever - and perhaps trigger huge clashes in RV - and generally make life hard for himself.

So what's the difference between a glorified Dwale and a supreme leader of Jubilee. We are not exactly talking about Mao Tse Dong, are we? Uhuru is supposed to retire and anything close to power is better than herding goats in Gatondo. Supreme leader of Jubilee is a non existent position. Better a glorified Dwale any day.

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2018, 08:37:19 AM »
Medev-Putin is only possible if one was proxy or there was slave-master; Raila cannot be trusted; Least by Uhuru; Therefore the prospect of Putin-Medvev will just not happen because Raila will take executive power as soon as he is sworn as PORK and if Uhuru doesn't like it - he will get kicked out in parliament - that will be acrimonious.
Apparently Raila just want to become a ceremonial pork and let Uhuru become Executive PM.
Uhuru will appoint cabinet with concurrence of Raila and will be in parliament answering questions. A glorified Duale.
Raila will hold the real levers of power - will be commander in Chief of armed forces
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001299007/raila-will-be-president-uhuru-prime-minister-in-2022-mp

I don't think Uhuru will bite this. First trusting Raila is out of questions, secondly from executive PORK to a glorified Duale doesn't sound fun and thirdly executing such a scheme won't be easy - neither will be governing.

The way I see Uhuru - will retire after his term ends and become a Jubilee supreme leader - and get back to enjoying his life - as his son Muhoho prepares for 2032 stab.

I don't think you are sleeping well at night these days. Who says it was "fun" for Putin to let go of President to be a Prime Minister? Sababu ya Katiba yao then he did it anyway and see where he now? Back where he was and there to stay. It was called The Putin-Medvedev tandemocracy. Google that word "tandemocracy".

Having added the Delamere farm and others to his family list of properties, Okuyu wont let Uhuru retire.

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2018, 08:39:05 AM »
Coz Jubilee is still a useful brand that both Uhuru and Ruto need; Jubilee dominance will take some time to break it up. If both Uhuru and Ruto are committed to 20yr plan then the party will become very strong -
what makes you think Jubilee will survive Uhuru exit ?
given the history of political parties in .ke and the fact
that jubilee is a party formed by two crimes against humanity
criminals for the sole purpose of fighting the ICC charges
from the position of PORK/DPORK





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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2018, 03:25:48 PM »
Apparently Raila just want to become a ceremonial pork and let Uhuru become Executive PM.
Uhuru will appoint cabinet with concurrence of Raila and will be in parliament answering questions. A glorified Duale.
Raila will hold the real levers of power - will be commander in Chief of armed forces
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001299007/raila-will-be-president-uhuru-prime-minister-in-2022-mp

I don't think Uhuru will bite this. First trusting Raila is out of questions, secondly from executive PORK to a glorified Duale doesn't sound fun and thirdly executing such a scheme won't be easy - neither will be governing.

The way I see Uhuru - will retire after his term ends and become a Jubilee supreme leader - and get back to enjoying his life - as his son Muhoho prepares for 2032 stab.

what makes you think Jubilee will survive Uhuru exit ?
given the history of political parties in .ke and the fact
that jubilee is a party formed by two crimes against humanity
criminals for the sole purpose of fighting the ICC charges
from the position of PORK/DPORK





In Kenya political parties are disposable.  Jubilee is even more fragile.  Plans for eternal domination were cast away with a mere handshake leaving the hustler running around like a headless chicken.
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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2018, 03:50:35 PM »
Make-believe world. What exactly has Ruto so far lost in the handshake. Uhuru has stabilized his gov and has played Raila like a small baby. And all Raila has to show nearly 1yr later -  4 prados and 3 positions in some boards - not even Chairmen :) - not even a Cabinet position.

Just imagine that - a guy with 46% of kenyan votes - surrendered it all for what appears to be a mere handshake.

In Kenya political parties are disposable.  Jubilee is even more fragile.  Plans for eternal domination were cast away with a mere handshake leaving the hustler running around like a headless chicken.

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2018, 03:59:17 PM »
It can be looked at another way. Can you imagine an election loser giving a winner such sleepless nights a year down the line? Billary had a better vote but Trump wiped the floor with her party and Mike Pence is almost home and dry. Compare.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2018, 08:27:22 PM »
Confirmed. You're an idiot. Hillary and his democrats have given Trump real hell. Trump people are in prison & trump lives with fear of impeachment. Raila had no real leverage against Uhuru but 46% would have given him robust opposition - than mere laughable handshake. Power concede nothing. That doesn't mean capitulating before power.a

I mean NARA was a bad deal for Raila - who had won PORK - but handshake is a total capitulation - and now Raila is hoping he can dangle a useless PM (executive :) ) to Uhuru. It's beyond laughable. It's retarded.

If Raila wanted to cut a deal - he would have done better in NARA and in handshake. At least he would have gotten something substantial than mere handshake, a committee of elders and 3 board members in some obscure commissions.

Ruto the man who is suppose to have lost is basically sleep walking to 2022. Ruto got 50-50 in Uhuru 1 and Uhuru 2 (minus 2 prados & half a board member :)). That tells you the man is something. Ruto understand POWER. If Ruto was powerless why is he the one LAUNCHING projects, giving out money like it was nothing and making policy decisions :) :) :). Ruto is strutting the GEMA nation like he is visiting Nandi county.

It can be looked at another way. Can you imagine an election loser giving a winner such sleepless nights a year down the line? Billary had a better vote but Trump wiped the floor with her party and Mike Pence is almost home and dry. Compare.

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2018, 09:35:34 PM »
You are degenerating slowly but surely to a village idiot.  I do not even think you believe yourself.  It was all a house of cards and its tumbling down fast.

Confirmed. You're an idiot. Hillary and his democrats have given Trump real hell. Trump people are in prison & trump lives with fear of impeachment. Raila had no real leverage against Uhuru but 46% would have given him robust opposition - than mere laughable handshake. Power concede nothing. That doesn't mean capitulating before power.a

I mean NARA was a bad deal for Raila - who had won PORK - but handshake is a total capitulation - and now Raila is hoping he can dangle a useless PM (executive :) ) to Uhuru. It's beyond laughable. It's retarded.

If Raila wanted to cut a deal - he would have done better in NARA and in handshake. At least he would have gotten something substantial than mere handshake, a committee of elders and 3 board members in some obscure commissions.

Ruto the man who is suppose to have lost is basically sleep walking to 2022. Ruto got 50-50 in Uhuru 1 and Uhuru 2 (minus 2 prados & half a board member :)). That tells you the man is something. Ruto understand POWER. If Ruto was powerless why is he the one LAUNCHING projects, giving out money like it was nothing and making policy decisions :) :) :). Ruto is strutting the GEMA nation like he is visiting Nandi county.

It can be looked at another way. Can you imagine an election loser giving a winner such sleepless nights a year down the line? Billary had a better vote but Trump wiped the floor with her party and Mike Pence is almost home and dry. Compare.
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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2022, 07:31:40 PM »
You are degenerating slowly but surely to a village idiot.  I do not even think you believe yourself.  It was all a house of cards and its tumbling down fast.

Confirmed. You're an idiot. Hillary and his democrats have given Trump real hell. Trump people are in prison & trump lives with fear of impeachment. Raila had no real leverage against Uhuru but 46% would have given him robust opposition - than mere laughable handshake. Power concede nothing. That doesn't mean capitulating before power.a

I mean NARA was a bad deal for Raila - who had won PORK - but handshake is a total capitulation - and now Raila is hoping he can dangle a useless PM (executive :) ) to Uhuru. It's beyond laughable. It's retarded.

If Raila wanted to cut a deal - he would have done better in NARA and in handshake. At least he would have gotten something substantial than mere handshake, a committee of elders and 3 board members in some obscure commissions.

Ruto the man who is suppose to have lost is basically sleep walking to 2022. Ruto got 50-50 in Uhuru 1 and Uhuru 2 (minus 2 prados & half a board member :)). That tells you the man is something. Ruto understand POWER. If Ruto was powerless why is he the one LAUNCHING projects, giving out money like it was nothing and making policy decisions :) :) :). Ruto is strutting the GEMA nation like he is visiting Nandi county.

It can be looked at another way. Can you imagine an election loser giving a winner such sleepless nights a year down the line? Billary had a better vote but Trump wiped the floor with her party and Mike Pence is almost home and dry. Compare.

What happen to sleep walking hasola?
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2022, 08:07:39 PM »
Ruto is PORK already - as long as Raila is running.
What happen to sleep walking hasola?

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2022, 08:16:32 PM »
Ruto is PORK already - as long as Raila is running.
What happen to sleep walking hasola?

So no worry about Sagana right? But you have gazillion threads. Sleep walking indeed.
Celebratory violence: 2017 crime invented to justify killings to prevent Raila from becoming PORK. http://www.nipate.com/download/file.php?id=4244

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2022, 08:30:03 PM »
Do I sound worried to you?
So no worry about Sagana right? But you have gazillion threads. Sleep walking indeed.

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Re: Desperate Raila dangling PM to Uhuru. Will Uhuru bite?
« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2022, 12:09:43 AM »
This aged like mursik