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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2018, 02:54:57 AM »
Until someone significant is locked up, I am treating all this as a charade.
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To be honest this is way too disappointing by DPP (or was it DCI?) who instigated this to gloat about. Mwilu is being accused of having influenced/colluded (used her office) with the receiver manager of imperial bank to do an equity release on her charged property and then evaded paying taxes (stamp duty) on the resultant sale of this (her) property! See attached charge sheet.

Really...!!! We have people who have stolen billions...not declared this revenue (obviously proceeds of crime; enrichment from a position of responsibility, clear abuse of office) and are walking freely around. In mind comes the famous Champion of corruption no. 1 and no. 2.

It is not that she was bribed Shs.12m, it is that she evaded paying Shs.12m in taxes. We don't even know whether it was her directly or her agent who was processing the property sale on her behalf who (may have) crooked the forged KRA stamps ostensibly to show payment but otherwise diverted the loot to his pocket. This is where i agree with the thinking that her matter should have been processed through the JSC and then she faces prosecution or whatever consequences once he matter has been dispensed with by JSC.

If DCI or DPP or EACC wanted to nab all the mega thieves of public money all they need to do is go to the leading estates in Nairobi where the nouveau riche have acquired a taste for (Karen, Lavington, Runda, Loresho, Rosylyn, Ridgeways, Muthaiga etc.) and inquire about their ownership.... knock door by door making inquiry about the source of funds in purchase of these "mansions". From here do the Al Capone dance (ask Mr. Taxman to demand his tax while you confiscate the same on the basis of proceeds of crime). A random sample will fish out massive returns that will make Mwilu's case peanuts really!

This is why I would view this as wichhunt....it doesn't deserve the high drama it has elicited. I though it was a big one... a mega crime. This is nothing really.  Ruaraka Land is a biggie staring us in the face... i thought this is a slam dunk; a real low hanging fruit! But Noordin cant seem to crack this one... We read this last week that Uhuru's nephew crooked someone Shs. 100m and he bundled him in until he returned the loot, also variously that Shs.500m in cash was found in his residence in Muthaiga. Why isn't Noordin jumping at this...why isn't KRA asking him questions about their portion of tax revenue from this Shs. 500m revenue? What business does he do to be keeping Shs.500m under his mattress??

It is said that a lot if not most of the plots/mini-ranches bought in Masailand is by public servants who come with money in the boot... a casual walk around the newly acquired Kajiado plots and newly built mansions will reveal most of the owners being mostly civil servants and KRA employees (proceeds of crime...their 10%s or bribes for providing low/clean tax audits at a fee).

Noordin Hajj is giving me second thoughts about this war on corruption. With this Mwilu case, it seems like a charade.

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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2018, 04:02:30 AM »
Well Mr Pragmatic, all Ruto supporters are pretending to be buffled or disappointed by the "charade" - as if they ever supported the purge to begin with. We all know it's a gang war among the former political twins turned bitter rivals Uhuru and Ruto. No honor among thieves... this vicious palace infighting is very good for Kenya. If Ruto is the big victim that's even better - a heartless crook marketing himself as a hardworker - real hustlers should sue him. Looting is the dictionary opposite of hardwork. William Ruto is the most corrupt Kenyan in history and is absolutely not presidential material.
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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2018, 04:15:08 AM »
Ruto's really being squeezed - Sudi barks again...

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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2018, 03:28:01 PM »
Ruto's really being squeezed - Sudi barks again...


The pro-corruption faction appears to have been reduced to Kalenjin RV.
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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2018, 03:31:44 PM »
To be honest this is way too disappointing by DPP (or was it DCI?) who instigated this to gloat about. Mwilu is being accused of having influenced/colluded (used her office) with the receiver manager of imperial bank to do an equity release on her charged property and then evaded paying taxes (stamp duty) on the resultant sale of this (her) property! See attached charge sheet.

Really...!!! We have people who have stolen billions...not declared this revenue (obviously proceeds of crime; enrichment from a position of responsibility, clear abuse of office) and are walking freely around. In mind comes the famous Champion of corruption no. 1 and no. 2.

It is not that she was bribed Shs.12m, it is that she evaded paying Shs.12m in taxes. We don't even know whether it was her directly or her agent who was processing the property sale on her behalf who (may have) crooked the forged KRA stamps ostensibly to show payment but otherwise diverted the loot to his pocket. This is where i agree with the thinking that her matter should have been processed through the JSC and then she faces prosecution or whatever consequences once he matter has been dispensed with by JSC.

If DCI or DPP or EACC wanted to nab all the mega thieves of public money all they need to do is go to the leading estates in Nairobi where the nouveau riche have acquired a taste for (Karen, Lavington, Runda, Loresho, Rosylyn, Ridgeways, Muthaiga etc.) and inquire about their ownership.... knock door by door making inquiry about the source of funds in purchase of these "mansions". From here do the Al Capone dance (ask Mr. Taxman to demand his tax while you confiscate the same on the basis of proceeds of crime). A random sample will fish out massive returns that will make Mwilu's case peanuts really!

This is why I would view this as wichhunt....it doesn't deserve the high drama it has elicited. I though it was a big one... a mega crime. This is nothing really.  Ruaraka Land is a biggie staring us in the face... i thought this is a slam dunk; a real low hanging fruit! But Noordin cant seem to crack this one... We read this last week that Uhuru's nephew crooked someone Shs. 100m and he bundled him in until he returned the loot, also variously that Shs.500m in cash was found in his residence in Muthaiga. Why isn't Noordin jumping at this...why isn't KRA asking him questions about their portion of tax revenue from this Shs. 500m revenue? What business does he do to be keeping Shs.500m under his mattress??

It is said that a lot if not most of the plots/mini-ranches bought in Masailand is by public servants who come with money in the boot... a casual walk around the newly acquired Kajiado plots and newly built mansions will reveal most of the owners being mostly civil servants and KRA employees (proceeds of crime...their 10%s or bribes for providing low/clean tax audits at a fee).

Noordin Hajj is giving me second thoughts about this war on corruption. With this Mwilu case, it seems like a charade.

Witch hunt is an appropriate characterization.  Haj is abusing public resources.
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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2018, 04:44:25 PM »
Of course it witch hunt by interior and harambee running the show.If there was no witchunt..Matiangi would have fallen.The rv saw it miles ahead and screamed murder..they wont be touching rvs but everyone else seen as weakling like miguna or mwilu is fair game.Building worth billions have fallen down without due process.Politics 101 that Raila never get.Njoki is the next CJ.NASA Raila once again will be taken to cleaners.The way forward is to return the independence of criminal system otherwise handing it to Uhuru in naive dream that hell fight Ruto is stupid.Something Raila will do. He thought Uhuru will target Ruto but it appears Uhuru is preparing the way for Ruto.Kucheswo.

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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2018, 05:14:42 PM »
Of course it witch hunt by interior and harambee running the show.If there was no witchunt..Matiangi would have fallen.The rv saw it miles ahead and screamed murder..they wont be touching rvs but everyone else seen as weakling like miguna or mwilu is fair game.Building worth billions have fallen down without due process.Politics 101 that Raila never get.Njoki is the next CJ.NASA Raila once again will be taken to cleaners.The way forward is to return the independence of criminal system otherwise handing it to Uhuru in naive dream that hell fight Ruto is stupid.Something Raila will do. He thought Uhuru will target Ruto but it appears Uhuru is preparing the way for Ruto.Kucheswo.

It is a witch hunt when it affects your brother. Hopefully, at some point,  they will get to how kajiado plots were acquired.
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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2018, 11:43:44 PM »
Ruto's really being squeezed - Sudi barks again...


The pro-corruption faction appears to have been reduced to Kalenjin RV.

That's because noone agrees with their madness - let us loot or else - cause Jomo and Moi did it.
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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2018, 11:53:15 PM »
To be honest this is way too disappointing by DPP (or was it DCI?) who instigated this to gloat about. Mwilu is being accused of having influenced/colluded (used her office) with the receiver manager of imperial bank to do an equity release on her charged property and then evaded paying taxes (stamp duty) on the resultant sale of this (her) property! See attached charge sheet.

Really...!!! We have people who have stolen billions...not declared this revenue (obviously proceeds of crime; enrichment from a position of responsibility, clear abuse of office) and are walking freely around. In mind comes the famous Champion of corruption no. 1 and no. 2.

It is not that she was bribed Shs.12m, it is that she evaded paying Shs.12m in taxes. We don't even know whether it was her directly or her agent who was processing the property sale on her behalf who (may have) crooked the forged KRA stamps ostensibly to show payment but otherwise diverted the loot to his pocket. This is where i agree with the thinking that her matter should have been processed through the JSC and then she faces prosecution or whatever consequences once he matter has been dispensed with by JSC.

If DCI or DPP or EACC wanted to nab all the mega thieves of public money all they need to do is go to the leading estates in Nairobi where the nouveau riche have acquired a taste for (Karen, Lavington, Runda, Loresho, Rosylyn, Ridgeways, Muthaiga etc.) and inquire about their ownership.... knock door by door making inquiry about the source of funds in purchase of these "mansions". From here do the Al Capone dance (ask Mr. Taxman to demand his tax while you confiscate the same on the basis of proceeds of crime). A random sample will fish out massive returns that will make Mwilu's case peanuts really!

This is why I would view this as wichhunt....it doesn't deserve the high drama it has elicited. I though it was a big one... a mega crime. This is nothing really.  Ruaraka Land is a biggie staring us in the face... i thought this is a slam dunk; a real low hanging fruit! But Noordin cant seem to crack this one... We read this last week that Uhuru's nephew crooked someone Shs. 100m and he bundled him in until he returned the loot, also variously that Shs.500m in cash was found in his residence in Muthaiga. Why isn't Noordin jumping at this...why isn't KRA asking him questions about their portion of tax revenue from this Shs. 500m revenue? What business does he do to be keeping Shs.500m under his mattress??

It is said that a lot if not most of the plots/mini-ranches bought in Masailand is by public servants who come with money in the boot... a casual walk around the newly acquired Kajiado plots and newly built mansions will reveal most of the owners being mostly civil servants and KRA employees (proceeds of crime...their 10%s or bribes for providing low/clean tax audits at a fee).

Noordin Hajj is giving me second thoughts about this war on corruption. With this Mwilu case, it seems like a charade.

Witch hunt is an appropriate characterization.  Haj is abusing public resources.

I don't see a witch-hunt. Mwilu has the means to clear her name if she's innocent. She should not be spared because she only failed to remit 3m in taxes - that's alot of money. She should sue for damages if the DPP's case is baseless.
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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #49 on: August 30, 2018, 07:07:15 AM »
To be honest this is way too disappointing by DPP (or was it DCI?) who instigated this to gloat about. Mwilu is being accused of having influenced/colluded (used her office) with the receiver manager of imperial bank to do an equity release on her charged property and then evaded paying taxes (stamp duty) on the resultant sale of this (her) property! See attached charge sheet.

Really...!!! We have people who have stolen billions...not declared this revenue (obviously proceeds of crime; enrichment from a position of responsibility, clear abuse of office) and are walking freely around. In mind comes the famous Champion of corruption no. 1 and no. 2.

It is not that she was bribed Shs.12m, it is that she evaded paying Shs.12m in taxes. We don't even know whether it was her directly or her agent who was processing the property sale on her behalf who (may have) crooked the forged KRA stamps ostensibly to show payment but otherwise diverted the loot to his pocket. This is where i agree with the thinking that her matter should have been processed through the JSC and then she faces prosecution or whatever consequences once he matter has been dispensed with by JSC.

If DCI or DPP or EACC wanted to nab all the mega thieves of public money all they need to do is go to the leading estates in Nairobi where the nouveau riche have acquired a taste for (Karen, Lavington, Runda, Loresho, Rosylyn, Ridgeways, Muthaiga etc.) and inquire about their ownership.... knock door by door making inquiry about the source of funds in purchase of these "mansions". From here do the Al Capone dance (ask Mr. Taxman to demand his tax while you confiscate the same on the basis of proceeds of crime). A random sample will fish out massive returns that will make Mwilu's case peanuts really!

This is why I would view this as wichhunt....it doesn't deserve the high drama it has elicited. I though it was a big one... a mega crime. This is nothing really.  Ruaraka Land is a biggie staring us in the face... i thought this is a slam dunk; a real low hanging fruit! But Noordin cant seem to crack this one... We read this last week that Uhuru's nephew crooked someone Shs. 100m and he bundled him in until he returned the loot, also variously that Shs.500m in cash was found in his residence in Muthaiga. Why isn't Noordin jumping at this...why isn't KRA asking him questions about their portion of tax revenue from this Shs. 500m revenue? What business does he do to be keeping Shs.500m under his mattress??

It is said that a lot if not most of the plots/mini-ranches bought in Masailand is by public servants who come with money in the boot... a casual walk around the newly acquired Kajiado plots and newly built mansions will reveal most of the owners being mostly civil servants and KRA employees (proceeds of crime...their 10%s or bribes for providing low/clean tax audits at a fee).

Noordin Hajj is giving me second thoughts about this war on corruption. With this Mwilu case, it seems like a charade.

Witch hunt is an appropriate characterization.  Haj is abusing public resources.

I don't see a witch-hunt. Mwilu has the means to clear her name if she's innocent. She should not be spared because she only failed to remit 3m in taxes - that's alot of money. She should sue for damages if the DPP's case is baseless.

@Robina,
I like what you post these days. Not sure which event or when caused you to acquired your wisdom but I like it alot because it has exposed RV Pundit as a fake when it comes to objectivity. We for a long while put RV Pundit on some pedestal when he commented on issues of the day ... all good until .... the rubber met the road ... turns out the man was no different.. ... just another blogger with plattidues until bitten by "mtu wetu syndrome". Now he is just a headless chicken on this forum.

But my post is not about RV Pundit, it is about this one - I have a simple response to @Pragmatic's insha seemingly written in personal anger. Step one, he should change his handle. He is does not merit that monika if he cannot discern "practical" approaches in tackling public governance matters. Secondly he is not a student of History. If he was he would have known how "boot-legging" rampant in the 1930s in the US came to an end. Al Capone was a notorious gangster who corrupted government officials and killled at will yet he remained free. It took the tact of a PRAGMATIC prosecutor to take an approach that would - WOULD ACHIEVE THE SAME END RESULTS - take him off the streets and put the evil man away for good! Prosecuting the thug for not paying taxes was easier because of a clear documented trail, than finding evidence to link him to the murders. Al Capone died a nobody while incacerated. Failure to pay taxes. I saw that 101 bit from the charges  DPP lined up for Mwilu. Haji has learned some useful input he can use for his job, while the @pragmatic here learns nothing and can as well go on wearing off his fingers writting useless inshas.  :(

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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2018, 07:10:30 AM »
Until Matianga and Prof Belio Sang are arrested for 1.5B loss of money I am going to term this war - a fake war - driven mostly by Office of President (OP) - misusing DPP & DCI & NIS. They need to arrest the head of Interior - Mr Matiangi - and then we will say for sure we ar enow fighting graft.
To be honest this is way too disappointing by DPP (or was it DCI?) who instigated this to gloat about. Mwilu is being accused of having influenced/colluded (used her office) with the receiver manager of imperial bank to do an equity release on her charged property and then evaded paying taxes (stamp duty) on the resultant sale of this (her) property! See attached charge sheet.

Really...!!! We have people who have stolen billions...not declared this revenue (obviously proceeds of crime; enrichment from a position of responsibility, clear abuse of office) and are walking freely around. In mind comes the famous Champion of corruption no. 1 and no. 2.

It is not that she was bribed Shs.12m, it is that she evaded paying Shs.12m in taxes. We don't even know whether it was her directly or her agent who was processing the property sale on her behalf who (may have) crooked the forged KRA stamps ostensibly to show payment but otherwise diverted the loot to his pocket. This is where i agree with the thinking that her matter should have been processed through the JSC and then she faces prosecution or whatever consequences once he matter has been dispensed with by JSC.

If DCI or DPP or EACC wanted to nab all the mega thieves of public money all they need to do is go to the leading estates in Nairobi where the nouveau riche have acquired a taste for (Karen, Lavington, Runda, Loresho, Rosylyn, Ridgeways, Muthaiga etc.) and inquire about their ownership.... knock door by door making inquiry about the source of funds in purchase of these "mansions". From here do the Al Capone dance (ask Mr. Taxman to demand his tax while you confiscate the same on the basis of proceeds of crime). A random sample will fish out massive returns that will make Mwilu's case peanuts really!

This is why I would view this as wichhunt....it doesn't deserve the high drama it has elicited. I though it was a big one... a mega crime. This is nothing really.  Ruaraka Land is a biggie staring us in the face... i thought this is a slam dunk; a real low hanging fruit! But Noordin cant seem to crack this one... We read this last week that Uhuru's nephew crooked someone Shs. 100m and he bundled him in until he returned the loot, also variously that Shs.500m in cash was found in his residence in Muthaiga. Why isn't Noordin jumping at this...why isn't KRA asking him questions about their portion of tax revenue from this Shs. 500m revenue? What business does he do to be keeping Shs.500m under his mattress??

It is said that a lot if not most of the plots/mini-ranches bought in Masailand is by public servants who come with money in the boot... a casual walk around the newly acquired Kajiado plots and newly built mansions will reveal most of the owners being mostly civil servants and KRA employees (proceeds of crime...their 10%s or bribes for providing low/clean tax audits at a fee).

Noordin Hajj is giving me second thoughts about this war on corruption. With this Mwilu case, it seems like a charade.

Witch hunt is an appropriate characterization.  Haj is abusing public resources.
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I don't see a witch-hunt. Mwilu has the means to clear her name if she's innocent. She should not be spared because she only failed to remit 3m in taxes - that's alot of money. She should sue for damages if the DPP's case is baseless.
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@Robina,
I like what you post these days. Not sure which event or when caused you to acquired your wisdom but I like it alot because it has exposed RV Pundit as a fake when it comes to objectivity. We for a long tume put RV Pundit on some pedestal when he commented on issues of the day ... all good until .... the rubber met the road ... the man was no different when ... just another blogger with plattidues until bitten by "mtu wetu syndrome". Now he is just a headless chicken on this forum.

But my post is not about RV Pundit, it is about this one - I have a simple response to @Pragmatic's insha seemingly written in personal anger. Step one, he should change his handle. He is does not merit that monika if he cannot discern "practical" approaches in tackling public governance matters. Secondly he is not a student of History. If he was he would have known how "boot-legging" rampant in the 1930s in the US came to an end. Al Capone was a notorious gangster who corrupted government officials and killled at will yet he remained free. It took the tact of a PRAGMATIC prosecutor to take an approach that would put away this evil man for good! He died a nobody while in incaceration. Failure to pay taxes. I saw that 101 bit from the charges  DPP lined up fof Mwilu. Haj i has learned some useful input for his jjob, while the @pragmatic here learns nothing and can as well go on wearing off his fingers writting useless inshas.  :(
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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #51 on: August 30, 2018, 04:38:07 PM »
@Audacity, I have no idea why you are ranting at me! You misinterpret my disappointment at Hajj. I am all for all that he is doing.

If Mwilu is a big one to send the message, so be it. I have no personal interest in her tribulations, i don't know her. I have no dog in the fight! I said that i thought hers is chicken feed compared to the biggies in the same industry (tax avoidance, tax cheating, forgery, abuse of office) that he could very easily go for to send a clear message. As we were on this, Waiguru (corruption poster Champion no. 2) was on JKL Live last night telling us that she has a house in Kihingo (value KShs.120m/-) - mark you this one she acquired recently while a cabinet secretary, another one in Runda and some other properties she admitted to all from public servant pay!! She says she is a hard worker... has worked for 30yrs blah blah blah.. I don't begrudge or envy her "hard working" ways, you simply don't line up those on a civil servant pay. That right there is a good target for Hajj, but they all (EACC, DPP, DCI) seem unable to round up these felons.

I know all about Al Capone and the US/Chicago '30's and how it went down, I was not going to write a book about it; i just picked the case of how the taxman was roped in to neuter the menace. Mark you they had his bookkeeper ratting on him.... I simply spoke of my frustration/disappointment in Hajj for too much ado about nothing. Now it seems very likely that matter will go to JSC for processing. I am all for all the strategies/tactics he is applying as a precursor or in preparation for the big whale when he pounces on them (i hope that this is the strategy and that he does strike in due time). No sacred cows....

Now I want to see Hajj pounce on William Ruto, Matiangi, Waiguru, Belio Kipsang, Jomo Gecaga, Charles Keter, Francis Mburu, etc... with equal gusto and brouhaha!

Do you know what corruption (and bad leadership) is doing to real honest hard working Kenyans? I will give an example close home. I am still holding out for my outstanding payment for last year crop delivered to the Moi's Bridge NCPB depot in December last year. As you are aware some crooked fellows were already paid for crop that did not even originate from this area; bought at a lowly Shs.1,100 - 1,400per bag from across the border and sold to NCPB at Shs.3,200/-. Very good returns, you wish you were in that Industry, but alas that isn't so for the farmer in North Rift whose total cost of production comes in at a range of Shs.2,200 - 2,400 per bag. I know our local expert Bwana Pundit will say that the subsidy should end and maize farmer be damned! That he is all for an open borders policy and letting in food from cheaper sources. I wonder how that will go for millions of Kenyans who live off their land. Now, I have other sources of income, how do you think it is going for the farmer whose only source of livelihood is the soil? I hate corruption on all fronts; whether practiced by my parent, sibling, close family member or friend.

I hope you now understand my agitation (or anger, as you put it) and source of disappointment with Hajj.

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« Reply #52 on: August 30, 2018, 07:32:31 PM »
Weston Hotel is an easy picking for Hajj if he wants to be serious. There are others he can line up as well.
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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #53 on: August 31, 2018, 02:32:15 AM »
audacity, some people here will tell you Robina has no msimamo, that she's a see-saw :D mara Ruto mara Raila. Well, my object is Kenya. What's the impact of the war on corruption on Kenya? For Wanjiku it's the best thing since independence, for the corrupt it's the worst time ever, for Ruto it's double tragedy. Because of runaway corruption in Jubilee I voted NASA. When NASA claimed rigging and started secession and economic boycotts I disagreed. Then the handshake shook up things.

People here will stick to a tribal leader and call it principle. RV Pundit will tell you Ruto has transformed his life and will equally transform Kenya. Now how does a thief "transform" his life? Can his personal success be replicated nationally? What kind of leadership and inspiration do you expect from such a person? Does Kenya need William Ruto as President at this or any time? That's the debate here. Arrest Matiang'i and other dots and commas are details and excuses.

I say Kenya needs Ruto's "leadership" like I need a tumor in my head.
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« Reply #54 on: August 31, 2018, 07:26:45 AM »
  Anybody who does not go after low hanging fruits like Gichuru and Okemo is simply not to be trusted.

Yep.   That pair is still on the streets, years on.  Most of the money they stole has been confiscated and  returned, with no objection on the part.    But there they are: totally free men.   And not only won't GoK do anything, it will also not hand them over to the Brits.
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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #55 on: August 31, 2018, 12:33:42 PM »
Some evidence of her corruption
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/news/Sh131m--deals-with-Imperial-Bank/539546-4737290-x0rioa/index.html
@Audacity, I have no idea why you are ranting at me! You misinterpret my disappointment at Hajj. I am all for all that he is doing.

If Mwilu is a big one to send the message, so be it. I have no personal interest in her tribulations, i don't know her. I have no dog in the fight! I said that i thought hers is chicken feed compared to the biggies in the same industry (tax avoidance, tax cheating, forgery, abuse of office) that he could very easily go for to send a clear message. As we were on this, Waiguru (corruption poster Champion no. 2) was on JKL Live last night telling us that she has a house in Kihingo (value KShs.120m/-) - mark you this one she acquired recently while a cabinet secretary, another one in Runda and some other properties she admitted to all from public servant pay!! She says she is a hard worker... has worked for 30yrs blah blah blah.. I don't begrudge or envy her "hard working" ways, you simply don't line up those on a civil servant pay. That right there is a good target for Hajj, but they all (EACC, DPP, DCI) seem unable to round up these felons.

I know all about Al Capone and the US/Chicago '30's and how it went down, I was not going to write a book about it; i just picked the case of how the taxman was roped in to neuter the menace. Mark you they had his bookkeeper ratting on him.... I simply spoke of my frustration/disappointment in Hajj for too much ado about nothing. Now it seems very likely that matter will go to JSC for processing. I am all for all the strategies/tactics he is applying as a precursor or in preparation for the big whale when he pounces on them (i hope that this is the strategy and that he does strike in due time). No sacred cows....

Now I want to see Hajj pounce on William Ruto, Matiangi, Waiguru, Belio Kipsang, Jomo Gecaga, Charles Keter, Francis Mburu, etc... with equal gusto and brouhaha!

Do you know what corruption (and bad leadership) is doing to real honest hard working Kenyans? I will give an example close home. I am still holding out for my outstanding payment for last year crop delivered to the Moi's Bridge NCPB depot in December last year. As you are aware some crooked fellows were already paid for crop that did not even originate from this area; bought at a lowly Shs.1,100 - 1,400per bag from across the border and sold to NCPB at Shs.3,200/-. Very good returns, you wish you were in that Industry, but alas that isn't so for the farmer in North Rift whose total cost of production comes in at a range of Shs.2,200 - 2,400 per bag. I know our local expert Bwana Pundit will say that the subsidy should end and maize farmer be damned! That he is all for an open borders policy and letting in food from cheaper sources. I wonder how that will go for millions of Kenyans who live off their land. Now, I have other sources of income, how do you think it is going for the farmer whose only source of livelihood is the soil? I hate corruption on all fronts; whether practiced by my parent, sibling, close family member or friend.

I hope you now understand my agitation (or anger, as you put it) and source of disappointment with Hajj.

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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #56 on: August 31, 2018, 02:33:10 PM »
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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« Reply #57 on: August 31, 2018, 07:35:39 PM »
One count enough to finish her.why do we need to tie all the knots.The main witness is the bank receiver manager.There is bribery, there is tax evasion with fake stamp duty and abuse of office.

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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2018, 04:03:15 PM »
The DPP should have been more careful with this case. The DCJ is not a low lying fruit as he is about to find out. Kenyans are really hungry for him to fight crime and prosecutors make decisions all the time on which cases to prosecute and which ones not to all the time.  This was a stupid mistake.  The only upside of all this is that it may show  that the current Kenyan courts is  independent from the executive branch and not a rubber stamp as in the earlier years. This may help to  separate Kenya from Uganda as we watch the Bobi wine saga unfold. The DPP office needs to be re-revamped, adequately funded and staffed with some of the best legal minds in the country if it is going to be entrusted with this monumental task of fighting corruption. Maraga said the court is ready but the DPP has proven that he is not ready for high profile cases where a defendant has 34 lawyers and a large political following. You cannot send inexperienced boys and girls after experienced women and men.

One count enough to finish her.why do we need to tie all the knots.The main witness is the bank receiver manager.There is bribery, there is tax evasion with fake stamp duty and abuse of office.
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Re: Jubilee corruption dragnet captures top judge
« Reply #59 on: September 02, 2018, 10:43:24 PM »
With the DCJ asking the DPP to hand over whatever evidence he has on her to JSC so that her departure manenos can begin, the drama is yet to unfold. It seems the DPP miscalculated this one. I do not see it ending well for him. Orengo and his legal team will once again score a big goal. I just hope Jubilee won't decide to revisit him personally.
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