Raila & Joho wanaona moto pwani

[RV Pundit]

Hehehe - Ruto ni moto ya kuotea mbali

1) Raila is waving a white flag - telling ODM mpps they are free to work with Jubilee(Ruto). Eti go and when I summon you - comeback . How is that even possible.

2) Pale Baringo..the up-start Moi Gideon - is even afraid to fill a candidate for the by-election.

https://www.kenya-today.com/politics/raila-beats-ruto-hands-down-in-latest-move-to-curb-rebellion-in-odm

[RV Pundit]

You haven't been listening. There is a reason why Moi chose Uhuru. The is a reason why Ruto has Kept Uhuru and Uhuru is PORK. If you paid attention - you'd have known Ruto is de-facto PORK. He is the engine of this gov.Maybe you should listen to ODM MPs who were lamenting. Nothing happen in GOV without ruto knowing or okaying. Ruto runs gov. Ruto runs Jubilee. The man is at his office latest SIX - sometimes by 5am...you think he goes there for morning kesha ...and by mid-day he is done knowing who is doing shiet...and he goes for inspection tours & rallies. So basically there is really nothing GEMA or MKM will lose..except the title of PORK .If Ruto didn't have power - he won't be making crazy money as Gov supervisor taking his fair/ceasar share of 5-10% to ensure things ran smoothly and on time. The boss was given SGR phase 1 - 30B - so he is still busy chewing that nyama. Then he probably chewed phase 2. And is ready for phase 3. The other nyamas...that don't concern the BOSS...Ruto takes them. The problem right now is everyone want to take their 5-10% including unkown Kaburas & ngiritas.

Pundit told us not long ago that power is taken not given. If Ruto is going to be president he has to take it from the MKM but the notion that they are going to give it to him is laughable.  Ouru has people who run Kenya for him so that he can have time to drink and these people love power and they are not going to hand it over to Ruto. They would hand it over to Gidi under another arrangement if they have to hand it to another tribal person but not Ruto.  They learnt that lesson well in 1978. 

[Kichwa]

Bla bla bla bla. The more reason why he will never be pork. Moi looked attractive to Njonjo because he was naive. In 2013 Ruto was naive about government and so MKM liked him right now they fear him like they feared Raila in 2007, 2013 and 2017.  Gidi looks more attractive to MKM than Ruto right now. I actually think Ruto knows MKM is not going to hand him over power because otherwise he would not be in such panic mode.  He is trying to insulate himself politically for the corruption charges coming against him soon like he did with ICC then if he survives the court charges then he believes he can be a national hero and make it hard for MKM to rig him out. If that is his ultimate plan then he will need Raila like Omollo said and therefore I do not understand this old tired political anti Raila strategy in the Ruto camp.

You haven't been listening. There is a reason why Moi chose Uhuru. The is a reason why Ruto has Kept Uhuru and Uhuru is PORK. If you paid attention - you'd have known Ruto is de-facto PORK. He is the engine of this gov.Maybe you should listen to ODM MPs who were lamenting. Nothing happen in GOV without ruto knowing or okaying. Ruto runs gov. Ruto runs Jubilee. The man is at his office latest SIX - sometimes by 5am...you think he goes there for morning kesha ...and by mid-day he is done knowing who is doing shiet...and he goes for inspection tours & rallies. So basically there is really nothing GEMA or MKM will lose..except the title of PORK .If Ruto didn't have power - he won't be making crazy money as Gov supervisor taking his fair/ceasar share of 5-10% to ensure things ran smoothly and on time. The boss was given SGR phase 1 - 30B - so he is still busy chewing that nyama. Then he probably chewed phase 2. And is ready for phase 3. The other nyamas...that don't concern the BOSS...Ruto takes them. The problem right now is everyone want to take their 5-10% including unkown Kaburas & ngiritas.

Pundit told us not long ago that power is taken not given. If Ruto is going to be president he has to take it from the MKM but the notion that they are going to give it to him is laughable.  Ouru has people who run Kenya for him so that he can have time to drink and these people love power and they are not going to hand it over to Ruto. They would hand it over to Gidi under another arrangement if they have to hand it to another tribal person but not Ruto.  They learnt that lesson well in 1978. 

[RV Pundit]

Ruto is not waiting like Moi for Kenyatta to drop dead. He is taking power. By force. By hook or crook. Who is this MKM. Give me 3 names of the card carrying members. Maybe Ruto get assisinated or something like that...but Ruto is not waiting for GEMA or MKM to make him PORK. He is going to do it himself. MKM/GEMA will be running to make a deal.

Like I told you Ruto is targetting to get 40% of all votes -  small tribes that supported Moi/KANU - before any GEMA vote is counted. Once he get 40% of Kenya (Moi Old KANU) - he'll need 10% to make it.  Now there are so many 10% - from the big 5 tribes - and so GEMA will be rushing to make a deal. If you're waiting for Ruto to go beg GEMA for support -  then you clearly haven't studied the man like I have. That is why Ruto is busy making crazy trips to former KANU Zones - and just passing to check the GEMA buddies once in a while.

Why is Ruto anti- Raila - Raila came with Luos in NDP & went with MOI's KANU in 2002 rebellion and has kept it as his own. Ruto knows it. Ruto wants it. Once Ruto has taken back OLD GREAT KANU (KADU of 60s) - basically conglomeration of small tribes of kenya - and I think he is about to - COAST & GUSII - once they are safely in - we can close that chapter - and make friends with Raila & Luo people.

Just sit back & relax so Ruto can teach you politics 101. Ruto is about to do the most outstanding political undertaking since KADU-KANU merger of 1966 - combine Non-GEMA+GEMA into one unified force . Poor Luos people will be left out AGAIN! unless they rebel from Raila Odinga.

Bla bla bla bla. The more reason why he will never be pork. Moi looked attractive to Njonjo because he was naive. In 2013 Ruto was naive about government and so MKM liked him right now they fear him like they feared Raila in 2007, 2013 and 2017.  Gidi looks more attractive to MKM than Ruto right now. I actually think Ruto knows MKM is not going to hand him over power because otherwise he would not be in such panic mode.  He is trying to insulate himself politically for the corruption charges coming against him soon like he did with ICC then if he survives the court charges then he believes he can be a national hero and make it hard for MKM to rig him out. If that is his ultimate plan then he will need Raila like Omollo said and therefore I do not understand this old tired political anti Raila strategy in the Ruto camp.

[Nefertiti]

Yup.  We have seen before that Gideon is an empty coat and incoherent windbag. Kanu has only Tiaty's Kamket Baringo yote  The Baringo South by-election will be another reminder of Gideon's hopeless incompetence.

This is the issue facing the Anyone-but-Ruto squad: PK,  Mdvd, Mutua, etc - are all hopeless against Ruto. Only 80yo Raila measures up.

Hehehe - Ruto ni moto ya kuotea mbali

1) Raila is waving a white flag - telling ODM mpps they are free to work with Jubilee(Ruto). Eti go and when I summon you - comeback . How is that even possible.

2) Pale Baringo..the up-start Moi Gideon - is even afraid to fill a candidate for the by-election.

https://www.kenya-today.com/politics/raila-beats-ruto-hands-down-in-latest-move-to-curb-rebellion-in-odm

[Omollo]

I could not help laughing at this aloud! And I am in a public place which has really embarrassed me.

Matiangi is Interior minister but they do not completely trust him so Karanja Kibicho is running the show and believe you me his hand stretches far. Just ask Sonko in Nairobi!

The Minister of Finance? Jesus? They picked an alcoholic who is mostly drunk with a perennial headache. He is invited to drinking partieds while the PS Kamau Thug ( Dr Kamau Thugge) runs the show!

Muturi is a Mbeere? Of Course but he has washed dishes several times in Gatundu and I doubt he remembers that he is NOT a Kikuyu. If asked by Mama Ngina to jump he asks: How high Mum? They took the file of him being jailed for corruption and kept it somewhere in Gatundu as they did that of Sonko.

Mwathethe? Jesus the man has no backbone and is surrounded by Kikuyus. When the boss waits for his deputy to tell him what to say...? Totally emasculated.

The others mentioned are chokora positions that mean zilch

Comptroller of Budget? The one who was threatened to LIE that she gave approval to violate the constitution? Get real Pundit, you are addressing people with brains.

Uhuru is a tribalist who is more rabid than Kibaki.

MKM will like everyone benefit from Ruto. However they will benefit more - because they'll get DPORK, plus Uhuru will still be powerful Jubilee leader & half the gov positions. The other options they have is to try find another candidate who can win in 2022 or have Uhuru somehow extend his rule. I think both ideas are stupid...so the best idea is to continue the Jubilee partnership and transform Kenya.

When you talk about instruments of power? What exactly are those? The minister of security is a Kisii - Matiangi. The minister of Finance - is Rotich a Kalenjin. The Majority Leader of Parliament is Duale - a Somali. The Majority Leader of Senate is Murkomen - a Kalenjin. The Speaker of Parliament - is Muturi a Mbeere. The Speaker of Senate - is Lusaka a Bukusu. The Nairobi Governor is Sonko - a  Kamba.The head of KDF - General Samson Mwathethe is from Coast.The Police Inspector is Boinnet a Kalenjin. The Minister of Energy is Keter. The DPP is Somali. The EACC head is Somali. Solicitor General a Kisii. The Chief Justice is Maranga - a Kisii. IEBC Chair is Chebukati - a Bukusu. All major parastal are headed by all tribes...KAA is headed by Nowergeina, KPLC/Kenya Pipeline/ etc by Kalenjin, KCB a major Gov bank by Gusii Ogiara. The Chair of Governors is Turkana - and so in Minister of Petroleum (and PS is Kalenjin).The Budget Controller Adhiambo is a Luo. Ouko the Auditor General is a Luo. Kalenjin have 7 Governors (plus 10 deputy governors) - which more than Kikuyu governors. These are "INSTRUMENTS" Of power.

 I guess you mean only position held by Kikuyus are "instruments of power" - which to me are restricted to - Head of Civil Services/CBK Governor/NIS Head/AG/Min of Infrastructure/KRA?

Bottomline; Kenya is too sophisticated & diversified to be "owned" by any tribe. If someone in GEMA was hoping Uhuru would be a dyed in the wool tribalist like Kibaki or his father Kenyatta - they got it wrong - Uhuru has no tribal blood flowing in his vein.If GEMA are not careful..Uhuru will hand over the DPORK to Luhyas or Kambas...as he remain the Supreme Leader of Jubilee....attending Cabinet like Jubilee Sec General Tuju(a Luo).

[Omollo]

This is the funniest piece I have read since I started teaching you politics in 2002.

Tell us how he will go about taking power?

Ruto is not waiting like Moi for Kenyatta to drop dead. He is taking power. By force. By hook or crook. Who is this MKM. Give me 3 names of the card carrying members. Maybe Ruto get assisinated or something like that...but Ruto is not waiting for GEMA or MKM to make him PORK. He is going to do it himself. MKM/GEMA will be running to make a deal.

Like I told you Ruto is targetting to get 40% of all votes -  small tribes that supported Moi/KANU - before any GEMA vote is counted. Once he get 40% of Kenya (Moi Old KANU) - he'll need 10% to make it.  Now there are so many 10% - from the big 5 tribes - and so GEMA will be rushing to make a deal. If you're waiting for Ruto to go beg GEMA for support -  then you clearly haven't studied the man like I have. That is why Ruto is busy making crazy trips to former KANU Zones - and just passing to check the GEMA buddies once in a while.

Why is Ruto anti- Raila - Raila came with Luos in NDP & went with MOI's KANU in 2002 rebellion and has kept it as his own. Ruto knows it. Ruto wants it. Once Ruto has taken back OLD GREAT KANU (KADU of 60s) - basically conglomeration of small tribes of kenya - and I think he is about to - COAST & GUSII - once they are safely in - we can close that chapter - and make friends with Raila & Luo people.

Just sit back & relax so Ruto can teach you politics 101. Ruto is about to do the most outstanding political undertaking since KADU-KANU merger of 1966 - combine Non-GEMA+GEMA into one unified force . Poor Luos people will be left out AGAIN! unless they rebel from Raila Odinga.

Bla bla bla bla. The more reason why he will never be pork. Moi looked attractive to Njonjo because he was naive. In 2013 Ruto was naive about government and so MKM liked him right now they fear him like they feared Raila in 2007, 2013 and 2017.  Gidi looks more attractive to MKM than Ruto right now. I actually think Ruto knows MKM is not going to hand him over power because otherwise he would not be in such panic mode.  He is trying to insulate himself politically for the corruption charges coming against him soon like he did with ICC then if he survives the court charges then he believes he can be a national hero and make it hard for MKM to rig him out. If that is his ultimate plan then he will need Raila like Omollo said and therefore I do not understand this old tired political anti Raila strategy in the Ruto camp.

[RV Pundit]

Exactly. 80yr is also waving the white flag and hoping to later pull a rabbit out of the bag like in 2002.

Yup.  We have seen before that Gideon is an empty coat and incoherent windbag. Kanu has only Tiaty's Kamket Baringo yote  The Baringo South by-election will be another reminder of Gideon's hopeless incompetence.

This is the issue facing the Anyone-but-Ruto squad: PK,  Mdvd, Mutua, etc - are all hopeless against Ruto. Only 80yo Raila measures up.

[RV Pundit]

With your puny brain - you aint teaching me nothing.

This is the funniest piece I have read since I started teaching you politics in 2002.

Tell us how he will go about taking power?

[RV Pundit]

Keep changing goal posts - whenever Uhuru got a minister - Ruto got a PS. Whenever Ruto got board Chair - Uhuru gets the CEO. Uhuru get the speaker - Ruto get the majority leader. I can go on and on but clearly it waste of time talking to an idiot like you.

I could not help laughing at this aloud! And I am in a public place which has really embarrassed me.

Matiangi is Interior minister but they do not completely trust him so Karanja Kibicho is running the show and believe you me his hand stretches far. Just ask Sonko in Nairobi!

The Minister of Finance? Jesus? They picked an alcoholic who is mostly drunk with a perennial headache. He is invited to drinking partieds while the PS Kamau Thug ( Dr Kamau Thugge) runs the show!

Muturi is a Mbeere? Of Course but he has washed dishes several times in Gatundu and I doubt he remembers that he is NOT a Kikuyu. If asked by Mama Ngina to jump he asks: How high Mum? They took the file of him being jailed for corruption and kept it somewhere in Gatundu as they did that of Sonko.

Mwathethe? Jesus the man has no backbone and is surrounded by Kikuyus. When the boss waits for his deputy to tell him what to say...? Totally emasculated.

The others mentioned are chokora positions that mean zilch

Comptroller of Budget? The one who was threatened to LIE that she gave approval to violate the constitution? Get real Pundit, you are addressing people with brains.

Uhuru is a tribalist who is more rabid than Kibaki.

[Nefertiti]

MKM is old GEMA hands - Muthaura or Joe Wanjui types - Kibaki agemates - who somehow control Uhuru  Kichwa insists there is an all-out war on Ruto yet PORK continues to appoint chairmen, ambassadors, etc on 50-50. The real ongoing war is Ruto's attrition and takeover of ODM zones outside Luo.

Ruto is not waiting like Moi for Kenyatta to drop dead. He is taking power. By force. By hook or crook. Who is this MKM. Give me 3 names of the card carrying members. Maybe Ruto get assisinated or something like that...but Ruto is not waiting for GEMA or MKM to make him PORK. He is going to do it himself. MKM/GEMA will be running to make a deal.

Like I told you Ruto is targetting to get 40% of all votes -  small tribes that supported Moi/KANU - before any GEMA vote is counted. Once he get 40% of Kenya (Moi Old KANU) - he'll need 10% to make it.  Now there are so many 10% - from the big 5 tribes - and so GEMA will be rushing to make a deal. If you're waiting for Ruto to go beg GEMA for support -  then you clearly haven't studied the man like I have. That is why Ruto is busy making crazy trips to former KANU Zones - and just passing to check the GEMA buddies once in a while.

Why is Ruto anti- Raila - Raila came with Luos in NDP & went with MOI's KANU in 2002 rebellion and has kept it as his own. Ruto knows it. Ruto wants it. Once Ruto has taken back OLD GREAT KANU (KADU of 60s) - basically conglomeration of small tribes of kenya - and I think he is about to - COAST & GUSII - once they are safely in - we can close that chapter - and make friends with Raila & Luo people.

Just sit back & relax so Ruto can teach you politics 101. Ruto is about to do the most outstanding political undertaking since KADU-KANU merger of 1966 - combine Non-GEMA+GEMA into one unified force . Poor Luos people will be left out AGAIN! unless they rebel from Raila Odinga.

[RV Pundit]

Yeap once gov has been shared equally - what more war is left. As far as I know what is pending is Ambassadorial positions. The few replacements. Otherwise Cabinet was shared equally, PS, Boards & Parastals.

The NDP brigade are going to hate Ruto - coz he is driving the last nail. I think Coast is pretty much finished - Joho is left with 3 Mps .

Next we should go to GUsii - Ruto just need to win two current governors plus get Matiangi to do his thing - and it game shot!

MKM is old GEMA hands - Muthaura or Joe Wanjui types - Kibaki agemates - who somehow control Uhuru  Kuchen insists there is an all-out war on Ruto yet PORK continues to appoint chairmen, ambassadors, etc on 50-50. The real ongoing war is Ruto's attrition and takeover of ODM zones outside Luo.

[Omollo]

Pundit

You are forgetting your manners like your dumped your intellect: Demonstrate the idiocy with clear arguments. Invective is an attempt to hide massive ignorance. Note also the well researched "psychological projection" which in effect means one oozes insults that reflect his own self. I.e. a person who feels he is an idiot, would most likely label those he knows not to be like him as what he is: Idiot. Sad. Any way you will not derail me one bit.
 
One can look at the subjective and narrow list you presented and see 50:50. Indeed I have not questioned the 50:50, have I? (Another indication of your failure to pay attention to simple details).

Take the example of Rotich. He is part of 50:50 and proof of Kalenjin/Kikuyu or Kikuyu/Kalenjin framework. I have not contested that contrary to your claim.

MKM simply chose poor quality Kalenjins; Converted or compromised them. Rotich is one such case of a figurehead.

MKM in screwing Ruto also made sure the key ministries remained under their control by hook or crook.

Interesting to know which goals I have shifted...

Keep changing goal posts - whenever Uhuru got a minister - Ruto got a PS. Whenever Ruto got board Chair - Uhuru gets the CEO. Uhuru get the speaker - Ruto get the majority leader. I can go on and on but clearly it waste of time talking to an idiot like you.

[Nefertiti]

Still Omollo will tell you how he "knows politics"  - while his man Raila is slowly but surely getting taken to the cleaners.

No proof of Ruto-Uhuru or Kalenjin-MKM war
No mkia or sign of any real power for Raila
Massive proof of ODM rout by Ruto

Yeap once gov has been shared equally - what more war is left. As far as I know what is pending is Ambassadorial positions. The few replacements. Otherwise Cabinet was shared equally, PS, Boards & Parastals.

The NDP brigade are going to hate Ruto - coz he is driving the last nail. I think Coast is pretty much finished - Joho is left with 3 Mps .

Next we should go to GUsii - Ruto just need to win two current governors plus get Matiangi to do his thing - and it game shot!

[Omollo]

MPs are no reflection of the people's political alignment. Iwill keep saying this until one day gets in to the thickest head alive.

Yeap once gov has been shared equally - what more war is left. As far as I know what is pending is Ambassadorial positions. The few replacements. Otherwise Cabinet was shared equally, PS, Boards & Parastals.

The NDP brigade are going to hate Ruto - coz he is driving the last nail. I think Coast is pretty much finished - Joho is left with 3 Mps .

Next we should go to GUsii - Ruto just need to win two current governors plus get Matiangi to do his thing - and it game shot!

MKM is old GEMA hands - Muthaura or Joe Wanjui types - Kibaki agemates - who somehow control Uhuru  Kuchen insists there is an all-out war on Ruto yet PORK continues to appoint chairmen, ambassadors, etc on 50-50. The real ongoing war is Ruto's attrition and takeover of ODM zones outside Luo.

[Omollo]

Debate Pundit. You lack the gravitas to debate Omollo

Still Omollo will tell you how he "knows politics"  - while his man Raila is slowly but surely getting taken to the cleaners.

No proof of Ruto-Uhuru or Kalenjin-MKM war
No mkia or sign of any real power for Raila
Massive proof of ODM rout by Ruto

[RV Pundit]

You don't make sense. Uhuru is the biggest drunk. So if MKM chose Rotich  for us - we did an even greater job selecting Uhuru for them. There is nothing like MKM or Kalenjin Mafia. This is not 1930 Chicago. There is of course intense power play - for patronage & money - and I think both Uhuru team & Ruto team have solid experience in GOV to know how things ran. Raila clearly doesn't have that advantage.

If you're hoping the usual daily jostling of power & resources in gov will lead to war - then clearly you don't understand how UhuRuto ran things. Small time PS like Kibicho is now MKM Mafia all in himself - that lowly civil servant who can be fired any day and only his mother or father will protest - he is not a political power player.

Pundit

You are forgetting your manners like your dumped your intellect: Demonstrate the idiocy with clear arguments. Invective is an attempt to hide massive ignorance. Note also the well researched "psychological projection" which in effect means one oozes insults that reflect his own self. I.e. a person who feels he is an idiot, would most likely label those he knows not to be like him as what he is: Idiot. Sad. Any way you will not derail me one bit.
 
One can look at the subjective and narrow list you presented and see 50:50. Indeed I have not questioned the 50:50, have I? (Another indication of your failure to pay attention to simple details).

Take the example of Rotich. He is part of 50:50 and proof of Kalenjin/Kikuyu or Kikuyu/Kalenjin framework. I have not contested that contrary to your claim.

MKM simply chose poor quality Kalenjins; Converted or compromised them. Rotich is one such case of a figurehead.

MKM in screwing Ruto also made sure the key ministries remained under their control by hook or crook.

Interesting to know which goals I have shifted...

[Nefertiti]

You told us Mvurya, Lusaka and other defectors have no gravitas...  now Jubilee has more new MPs everywhere -
Luhya, Ukambani, Turkana - snatched from ODM. The future of Raila and ODM looks blique while Ruto's is brighter than ever.

Debate Pundit. You lack the gravitas to debate Omollo

Still Omollo will tell you how he "knows politics"  - while his man Raila is slowly but surely getting taken to the cleaners.

No proof of Ruto-Uhuru or Kalenjin-MKM war
No mkia or sign of any real power for Raila
Massive proof of ODM rout by Ruto

[Omollo]

You just described one of the manifestations of the Mafia you are denying exists.

Kibicho is a cog in the super edifice called MKM. So is Uhuru. Their levels differ. Not everyone in a mafia is a godfather. You for example are Chirchir's election rigging assistant. You are not the same level as your boss but you play a major role in electoral fraud which cannot be ignored.

You don't make sense. Uhuru is the biggest drunk. So if MKM chose Rotich  for us - we did an even greater job selecting Uhuru for them. There is nothing like MKM or Kalenjin Mafia. This is not 1930 Chicago. There is of course intense power play - for patronage & money - and I think both Uhuru team & Ruto team have solid experience in GOV to know how things ran. Raila clearly doesn't have that advantage.

If you're hoping the usual daily jostling of power & resources in gov will lead to war - then clearly you don't understand how UhuRuto ran things. Small time PS like Kibicho is now MKM Mafia all in himself - that lowly civil servant who can be fired any day and only his mother or father will protest - he is not a political power player.

[Omollo]

What you write below goes to prove what I just kindly told you. Plus I have no time to begin searching for you as you hide in the oestrogen sac. Goodbye

You told us Mvurya, Lusaka and other defectors have no gravitas...  now Jubilee has more new MPs everywhere -
Luhya, Ukambani, Turkana - snatched from ODM. The future of Raila and ODM looks blique while Ruto's is brighter than ever.