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Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« on: April 19, 2018, 09:26:10 AM »
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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2018, 09:37:57 AM »
If you're not related to the Odingas then you're stupid. Luos need to start thinking beyond the Odingas - I mean 70 yrs since 1950s - you surely should be tired of one family dominating you guys. Now if you were talking about Luo succession then we could understand - but if youre talking president of Kenya - then you got jokes. Ida the housewife find himself in statehouse in 4yrs. When did Kenya die?

2022 be ready for Raila to battle Ruto (backed by Uhuru) - with MaDVD and Kalonzo also running plus other wannabes.


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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2018, 10:00:43 AM »
This has nothing to do with luo politics. I am just connecting the dots and it makes a whole lot of sense considering the secracy surrounding the handshake. I could be way off but I can see how the women can pull this off. Most Luos have not even heard of this idea but I can see how it can be sold to them, to Kikuyus, to Luyias, to women and to battle fatigued, peace seeking Kenyans.  Iam sure  you can too if not for your fanatic Ruto support.

If you're not related to the Odingas then you're stupid. Luos need to start thinking beyond the Odingas - I mean 70 yrs since 1950s - you surely should be tired of one family dominating you guys. Now if you were talking about Luo succession then we could understand - but if youre talking president of Kenya - then you got jokes. Ida the housewife find himself in statehouse in 4yrs. When did Kenya die?

2022 be ready for Raila to battle Ruto (backed by Uhuru) - with MaDVD and Kalonzo also running plus other wannabes.

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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2018, 03:51:47 PM »
I have nothing against Ida but what has she done to deserve the presidency?  Leadership is not sexually transmitted.  It would be such a big shame and disappointment to see a grandma running for president just because she is Odinga while we have able and articulate young men like Amolo Otiende, Ken Okoth, cleophas Malala among many more.

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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2018, 04:16:32 PM »
Go slow on premature exuberance. If Ruto was to die today - trust me - the likes of Murkomen will step up - not his wife. Wife can inherit MP or MCA posts - but national leadership is serious business. It very sad to see a community as proud and educated as LUO - reduced to worship the Odingas. Wake up and start having some ambition like Miguna has shown you.
This has nothing to do with luo politics. I am just connecting the dots and it makes a whole lot of sense considering the secracy surrounding the handshake. I could be way off but I can see how the women can pull this off. Most Luos have not even heard of this idea but I can see how it can be sold to them, to Kikuyus, to Luyias, to women and to battle fatigued, peace seeking Kenyans.  Iam sure  you can too if not for your fanatic Ruto support.

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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2018, 04:16:55 PM »
Precisely.
I have nothing against Ida but what has she done to deserve the presidency?  Leadership is not sexually transmitted.  It would be such a big shame and disappointment to see a grandma running for president just because she is Odinga while we have able and articulate young men like Amolo Otiende, Ken Okoth, cleophas Malala among many more.

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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2018, 05:16:19 PM »
What happened to your mantra that the presidential politics in Kenya is all tribal and that even a frog would be elected Kenya's president if it were able to put together a winning tribal  coalition. I think you are switching your long held tribal political math because this does not fit a narrative that is favorable to Ruto. And for the umpteenth time, this is me speculating and NOT the luo community.  Moreover, if Kenyan leadership was serious business, Kibaki would not have been president in his second term when he was obviously senile nor Ouru a lazy drunk would have been president nor would Sonko be the Governor of NBO.  You used to believe that presidential politics in Kenya is all about tribe when it favored Ruto, now all of a sudden you are talking about the seriousness of the presidency. You are such a hypocrite.

Go slow on premature exuberance. If Ruto was to die today - trust me - the likes of Murkomen will step up - not his wife. Wife can inherit MP or MCA posts - but national leadership is serious business. It very sad to see a community as proud and educated as LUO - reduced to worship the Odingas. Wake up and start having some ambition like Miguna has shown you.
This has nothing to do with luo politics. I am just connecting the dots and it makes a whole lot of sense considering the secracy surrounding the handshake. I could be way off but I can see how the women can pull this off. Most Luos have not even heard of this idea but I can see how it can be sold to them, to Kikuyus, to Luyias, to women and to battle fatigued, peace seeking Kenyans.  Iam sure  you can too if not for your fanatic Ruto support.
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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2018, 05:52:25 PM »

Ida probably has done more than Ouru and Ruto combined. Kibaki was practically senile when he stole the election in 2007. The Odinga family is not the only political family in the world engaged in politics.

I have nothing against Ida but what has she done to deserve the presidency?  Leadership is not sexually transmitted.  It would be such a big shame and disappointment to see a grandma running for president just because she is Odinga while we have able and articulate young men like Amolo Otiende, Ken Okoth, cleophas Malala among many more.
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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2018, 06:16:09 PM »
Not sold to blind worship to drag old grandma who has never run for a cattle dip chairmanship or local maendeleo ya wanawake seat to a presidential ticket. Mind to share her achievements. .at least kideros wife, that one I know she has sponsored many young girls education.
Florence Mutua is still defiant and offering  transformative leadesdership. ..wanga has sold her soul to the devil now she is marketing moses Kuria in Nyanza....let the Odinga family and their groupies enjoy their blood money quietly and allow organic grassroot leadership to take root.

 

Ida probably has done more than Ouru and Ruto combined. Kibaki was practically senile when he stole the election in 2007. The Odinga family is not the only political family in the world engaged in politics.

I have nothing against Ida but what has she done to deserve the presidency?  Leadership is not sexually transmitted.  It would be such a big shame and disappointment to see a grandma running for president just because she is Odinga while we have able and articulate young men like Amolo Otiende, Ken Okoth, cleophas Malala among many more.

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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2018, 07:26:03 PM »
Ida seems like a nice person.  She has been through a lot, courtesy of her hubby.  Through it all, she has joined the Kenyan jet set and her focus, in case you've not been observant, is how to not rock the boat.  How to not bring about fundamental change. 

Raila is of the same mindset, though he has managed to convince a constituency that his quest for power is a quest for fundamental change.   He does not mind the occasional shake up, and loss of life and limb, just enough to get his without tipping over the edifice.  He knows he was robbed.  Yet he is happy to settle for what I have to conclude was a large fee.

Kenyans are stuck with this motley selection of characters for sometime.
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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2018, 08:32:04 PM »
That's exactly why they probably would find her more easily acceptable requiring less persuasion than Raila. They would also get the satisfaction of sticking it to the luo men by  having a luo woman as the first luo president of Kenya and the fact that she is half luo is even better.


Ida seems like a nice person.  She has been through a lot, courtesy of her hubby.  Through it all, she has joined the Kenyan jet set and her focus, in case you've not been observant, is how to not rock the boat.  How to not bring about fundamental change. 

Raila is of the same mindset, though he has managed to convince a constituency that his quest for power is a quest for fundamental change.   He does not mind the occasional shake up, and loss of life and limb, just enough to get his without tipping over the edifice.  He knows he was robbed.  Yet he is happy to settle for what I have to conclude was a large fee.

Kenyans are stuck with this motley selection of characters for sometime.
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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2018, 08:37:12 PM »
unfortunately for you, its also about power and the Odinga name sells more than any  of the names you have mentioned.  The issue here is not whether Ida is the most qualified because that has never been a criteria before. The issue is whether she is saleable in this  political atmosphere.  The answer to that is yes.

Not sold to blind worship to drag old grandma who has never run for a cattle dip chairmanship or local maendeleo ya wanawake seat to a presidential ticket. Mind to share her achievements. .at least kideros wife, that one I know she has sponsored many young girls education.
Florence Mutua is still defiant and offering  transformative leadesdership. ..wanga has sold her soul to the devil now she is marketing moses Kuria in Nyanza....let the Odinga family and their groupies enjoy their blood money quietly and allow organic grassroot leadership to take root.

 

Ida probably has done more than Ouru and Ruto combined. Kibaki was practically senile when he stole the election in 2007. The Odinga family is not the only political family in the world engaged in politics.

I have nothing against Ida but what has she done to deserve the presidency?  Leadership is not sexually transmitted.  It would be such a big shame and disappointment to see a grandma running for president just because she is Odinga while we have able and articulate young men like Amolo Otiende, Ken Okoth, cleophas Malala among many more.
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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2018, 10:47:09 PM »
unfortunately for you, its also about power and the Odinga name sells more than any  of the names you have mentioned.  The issue here is not whether Ida is the most qualified because that has never been a criteria before. The issue is whether she is saleable in this  political atmosphere.  The answer to that is yes.

Not sold to blind worship to drag old grandma who has never run for a cattle dip chairmanship or local maendeleo ya wanawake seat to a presidential ticket. Mind to share her achievements. .at least kideros wife, that one I know she has sponsored many young girls education.
Florence Mutua is still defiant and offering  transformative leadesdership. ..wanga has sold her soul to the devil now she is marketing moses Kuria in Nyanza....let the Odinga family and their groupies enjoy their blood money quietly and allow organic grassroot leadership to take root.

 

Ida probably has done more than Ouru and Ruto combined. Kibaki was practically senile when he stole the election in 2007. The Odinga family is not the only political family in the world engaged in politics.

I have nothing against Ida but what has she done to deserve the presidency?  Leadership is not sexually transmitted.  It would be such a big shame and disappointment to see a grandma running for president just because she is Odinga while we have able and articulate young men like Amolo Otiende, Ken Okoth, cleophas Malala among many more.
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Re: Is Ida the “handshake” candidate?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2018, 02:33:51 PM »

You are right that those who saw themselves as RAO successors in ODM would be very mad.  I can think of someone like Joho among many others screaming betrayal. Otherwise the idea of a woman president at this time can really work especially with the correct tribal math.

unfortunately for you, its also about power and the Odinga name sells more than any  of the names you have mentioned.  The issue here is not whether Ida is the most qualified because that has never been a criteria before. The issue is whether she is saleable in this  political atmosphere.  The answer to that is yes.

Not sold to blind worship to drag old grandma who has never run for a cattle dip chairmanship or local maendeleo ya wanawake seat to a presidential ticket. Mind to share her achievements. .at least kideros wife, that one I know she has sponsored many young girls education.
Florence Mutua is still defiant and offering  transformative leadesdership. ..wanga has sold her soul to the devil now she is marketing moses Kuria in Nyanza....let the Odinga family and their groupies enjoy their blood money quietly and allow organic grassroot leadership to take root.

 

Ida probably has done more than Ouru and Ruto combined. Kibaki was practically senile when he stole the election in 2007. The Odinga family is not the only political family in the world engaged in politics.

I have nothing against Ida but what has she done to deserve the presidency?  Leadership is not sexually transmitted.  It would be such a big shame and disappointment to see a grandma running for president just because she is Odinga while we have able and articulate young men like Amolo Otiende, Ken Okoth, cleophas Malala among many more.
"I have done my job and I will not change anything dead or a live" Malonza