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Online RV Pundit

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If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« on: March 20, 2018, 10:40:54 AM »
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Easier-times-ahead-for-land-buyers/1056-4348946-dpdo5g/index.html

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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2018, 02:21:25 PM »
Most of the services at e-citizen even simple as a birth certificate are not possible to actualize fully online; this will be a miracle. Listened to Muraguri and he did not indicate how they will liaise with Sonko given most of the land in Nairobi is under County. 
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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2018, 09:25:07 PM »
Until someone comes up with a way to beat the system, and they are not even investigated, or anything.

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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2018, 12:51:44 PM »
These systems will just make it easier for the land cartels to search for more land to steal....

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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2018, 02:47:51 PM »
Quote from: bryan275 on March 22, 2018, 12:51:44 PM
These systems will just make it easier for the land cartels to search for more land to steal....
"I freed a thousand slaves.  I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2018, 06:16:27 PM »
Hehe bitmask and bryan. Someone noted corruption is the biggest sector - way ahead of agriculture, construction, etc. There are massive undeclared revenues, jobs, taxes, etc. If you were to rebase properly the gdp would triple.
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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2018, 07:16:17 PM »
Quote from: Robina on March 22, 2018, 06:16:27 PM
Hehe bitmask and bryan. Someone noted corruption is the biggest sector - way ahead of agriculture, construction, etc. There are massive undeclared revenues, jobs, taxes, etc. If you were to rebase properly the gdp would triple.

Yep.  It might even be responsible for the Uhuru-Raila detente. The Jimmy Wanjigis and their gilded lifestyles cannot survive on grass.

Funny, that at one time I too thought corruption could be slayed with technology.  In reality, it just opens up new avenues and gatekeepers of the vice.
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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2018, 07:42:12 PM »
In Kenya, law enforcement is for the poor. They are harassed, shot at and even killed. The well off have a jail free card. Tech will not prevent corruption, they figure out how to go around it - Waiguru did and was never charged!!. If she were in TZ she wouldn't get away with it.

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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2018, 09:56:02 PM »
Quote from: Parkerpen on March 22, 2018, 07:42:12 PM
In Kenya, law enforcement is for the poor. They are harassed, shot at and even killed. The well off have a jail free card. Tech will not prevent corruption, they figure out how to go around it - Waiguru did and was never charged!!. If she were in TZ she wouldn't get away with it.

Strawman, see the light! Corruption is responsible for billion-dollar revenues, jobs, supply chains, and whatnot. It's our most innovative industry.
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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2018, 01:33:01 PM »
Quote from: Robina on March 22, 2018, 06:16:27 PM
Hehe bitmask and bryan. Someone noted corruption is the biggest sector - way ahead of agriculture, construction, etc. There are massive undeclared revenues, jobs, taxes, etc. If you were to rebase properly the gdp would triple.
You can say that again. Imagine two cops collecting 37M in just 7 months. Translates into 176K per day. Of course not all of it is their as they have quotas but you get the point.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Shock-of-police-cartel-minting-Sh37-million-through-M-Pesa-/1056-4231536-om5vjyz/index.html
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Re: If they nails this - Land information systems - then we can unlock investments
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2018, 10:08:18 PM »
Quote from: vooke on March 23, 2018, 01:33:01 PM
Quote from: Robina on March 22, 2018, 06:16:27 PM
Hehe bitmask and bryan. Someone noted corruption is the biggest sector - way ahead of agriculture, construction, etc. There are massive undeclared revenues, jobs, taxes, etc. If you were to rebase properly the gdp would triple.
You can say that again. Imagine two cops collecting 37M in just 7 months. Translates into 176K per day. Of course not all of it is their as they have quotas but you get the point.
https://www.nation.co.ke/news/Shock-of-police-cartel-minting-Sh37-million-through-M-Pesa-/1056-4231536-om5vjyz/index.html

How do you convince the public to support conviction of these guys while Waigurus of Kenya go free? Not even a serious investigation?
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