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I congratulate the Nobel Committee for refusing to succumb to an ethnic campaign to award the prize to Ngugi. Ngugi has not recanted his support for the circumcision of women.

A prize to Ngugi would drive his already prophet status among practitioners of Female Genital Mutilation in places like Sierra Leone (Bondo Women) and Liberia etc to demi-God status - making it impossible to eliminate this vile practice. All the efforts and achievements by the UN and NGOs over the years would come tumbling down. Not to mention that it is the people of countries like Sweden and Norway (which host the Nobel prizes) that have funded most of the work to dismantle the Ngugi inspired Female Genital Mutilation!

Ngugi does not deserve any such prize. Thank you. Let's hope he misses again next year and all the years ahead.
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Ngugi has been a serial runner-up for the Nobel Literary Award. The reason he does not cut it is severe competition this prestige coveted by many. He is monothemed - the postcolonial & the neocolonial - and this seems to obsess him. The world has moved on and spurns him for relevance. He is otherwise a good read for the inclined. I rather prefer his Nigerian contemporaries: Soyinka, Achebe and Amadi.

As for your FGM vitriol, I hope the Nobel committee is more objective than that. It is a literary award, not human rights.
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Actually Omollo it would be great if another Kenyan bagged a Nobel... and Ngugi is a near-miss. Puts Kenya on the map, although I would prefer any of the scientifics or the economic one.
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Where do you get the idea that there is a runner-up in the Nobel Prize? Are you a member of the Committee?

I have a feeling you are cut!

Ngugi has been a serial runner-up for the Nobel Literary Award. The reason he does not cut it is severe competition this prestige coveted by many. He is monothemed - the postcolonial & the neocolonial - and this seems to obsess him. The world has moved on and spurns him for relevance. He is otherwise a good read for the inclined. I rathef prefer the Nigerians contemporaries: Soyinka, Achebe and Amadi.

As for your FGM vitriol, I hope the Nobel committee is more objective than that. It is a literary award, not human rights.
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Actually Omollo it would be great if another Kenyan bagged a Nobel... and Ngugi is a near-miss. Puts Kenya on the map, although I would prefer any of the scientifics or the economic one.
I would like to see a Kenyan get the Noel Prize. Just not Ngugi. The FGM thing that you are minimizing the importance of is real and sickening. For you it was probably just a cut and you carried on. For others it means they are ready for marriage and they do get married. The age of marriage is rapidly brought forward once they are cut. Now how would you like your out of wedlock daughter who is now 9 married to an old man like Pundit?
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Ngugi has made the final shortlist severally. Sorry his literary achievements count more than his political views.

Where do you get the idea that there is a runner-up in the Nobel Prize? Are you a member of the Committee?

I have a feeling you are cut!

Ngugi has been a serial runner-up for the Nobel Literary Award. The reason he does not cut it is severe competition this prestige coveted by many. He is monothemed - the postcolonial & the neocolonial - and this seems to obsess him. The world has moved on and spurns him for relevance. He is otherwise a good read for the inclined. I rathef prefer the Nigerians contemporaries: Soyinka, Achebe and Amadi.

As for your FGM vitriol, I hope the Nobel committee is more objective than that. It is a literary award, not human rights.
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Actually Omollo it would be great if another Kenyan bagged a Nobel... and Ngugi is a near-miss. Puts Kenya on the map, although I would prefer any of the scientifics or the economic one.
I would like to see a Kenyan get the Noel Prize. Just not Ngugi. The FGM thing that you are minimizing the importance of is real and sickening. For you it was probably just a cut and you carried on. For others it means they are ready for marriage and they do get married. The age of marriage is rapidly brought forward once they are cut. Now how would you like your out of wedlock daughter who is now 9 married to an old man like Pundit?

FGM is politics and is a stupid standard if at all applied in granting international awards. My feelings on FGM do not impugn Ngugi's achievements. He is a literary titan.
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You are becoming more and more Pundit. You should marry him.

Ngugi has made the final shortlist severally. Sorry his literary achievements count more than his political views.

Where do you get the idea that there is a runner-up in the Nobel Prize? Are you a member of the Committee?

I have a feeling you are cut!

Ngugi has been a serial runner-up for the Nobel Literary Award. The reason he does not cut it is severe competition this prestige coveted by many. He is monothemed - the postcolonial & the neocolonial - and this seems to obsess him. The world has moved on and spurns him for relevance. He is otherwise a good read for the inclined. I rathef prefer the Nigerians contemporaries: Soyinka, Achebe and Amadi.

As for your FGM vitriol, I hope the Nobel committee is more objective than that. It is a literary award, not human rights.
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I have never read a Ngugi book.  Which one would be a good recommendation?
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Actually Omollo it would be great if another Kenyan bagged a Nobel... and Ngugi is a near-miss. Puts Kenya on the map, although I would prefer any of the scientifics or the economic one.

Maybe economics.  The Ashkenazi dominated science award has moved so far out of left field the African is left hopelessly out of the running.
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BTW, I agree FGM totally sucks.  And if Ngugi supports it, he sucks too.
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I have never read a Ngugi book.  Which one would be a good recommendation?
You can read ;

1. Weep Not Child
2. The River Between
3. A Grain of Wheat

After that he becomes a politician cum history revisionist with a mission to glorify Mau mau and oppose Moi. He was in effect nurturing Kikuyu Nationalism while cheating the rest of us that he was fighting for Kenya.

Petals of blood is the most mediocre of his books.

His book: Ngigi Detained is a diatribe against  Moi while carefully avoiding blaming Kenyatta.

All the others after Decolonizing the mind are written for him by his second wife (the one Mungiki cut by force when sodomizing Ngugi).
 
As for him writing in Gikuyu ... bullocks! I spent time at Iowa University and figured out how he does it. The wife writes the books in English, they then translate to Gikuyu.
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Were you cut as a little girl?

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I have never read a Ngugi book.  Which one would be a good recommendation?
You can read ;

1. Weep Not Child
2. The River Between
3. A Grain of Wheat

After that he becomes a politician cum history revisionist with a mission to glorify Mau mau and oppose Moi. He was in effect nurturing Kikuyu Nationalism while cheating the rest of us that he was fighting for Kenya.

Petals of blood is the most mediocre of his books.

His book: Ngigi Detained is a diatribe against  Moi while carefully avoiding blaming Kenyatta.

All the others after Decolonizing the mind are written for him by his second wife (the one Mungiki cut by force when sodomizing Ngugi).
 
As for him writing in Gikuyu ... bullocks! I spent time at Iowa University and figured out how he does it. The wife writes the books in English, they then translate to Gikuyu.

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I have never read a Ngugi book.  Which one would be a good recommendation?
You can read ;

1. Weep Not Child
2. The River Between
3. A Grain of Wheat

After that he becomes a politician cum history revisionist with a mission to glorify Mau mau and oppose Moi. He was in effect nurturing Kikuyu Nationalism while cheating the rest of us that he was fighting for Kenya.

Petals of blood is the most mediocre of his books.

His book: Ngigi Detained is a diatribe against  Moi while carefully avoiding blaming Kenyatta.

All the others after Decolonizing the mind are written for him by his second wife (the one Mungiki cut by force when sodomizing Ngugi).
 
As for him writing in Gikuyu ... bullocks! I spent time at Iowa University and figured out how he does it. The wife writes the books in English, they then translate to Gikuyu.

Well well. I see the true reason for the anti-Ngugi-ism surfaced soon enough. Is there a book he has authored glorifying FGM?
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