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Offline Globalcitizen12

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Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« on: September 20, 2017, 11:01:23 AM »
These two communities have the human resource that sustains Kenya. The two communities have no reason to fight. Uhuru needs guidance so that he can be able to realize the hurt that fighting luos will cause kenya. Uhuru needs to be nudged to reach out to raila talk and find a solution.

There is a time for everything. I do believe Uhuru is not desperate to endanger the future of Kenya just for power. His partner needs power. Neither is raila.

Even when jaramogi and Kenyatta fought they would both realize that the country needed them to work together or come up with a political truce.

Raila walked away in 2013, it is Uhuru's time now to realize that he needs to make the biggest sacrifice of his life.

There were no elections in August. There is no ambiguity about this. Treason was committed on August 8 and uhuru as the president needs to understand the gravity of act. He needs to secure and uphold the consitution. He may have erred in thinking he could subvert the consitution but it is time now to change course.

Failure for this two communities to work together will soon Kenya for generations to come

Under one big tent let the talks begin

Only when Kikuyus and luo work together that Kenya makes significant progress ..the other nations in Kenya will follow the two and make their contribution.


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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2017, 11:13:34 AM »
This should make Omollo who is dreaming about another Nusu-Mkate happy. Everytime Kikuyus and Luos have attempted to work together it never last 3 yrs.
1963-1966 - acrimonious marriage full of makelele
2002-2005 - acrimonious marriage full of makele
2008-2013 - forced marriage that was makelele through out.
The nature of kikuyu is to back-stab & betray [ you can refer to history - 100yrs interraction with slave traders/maasai/etc] - the natural nature of Luo is to rebel & oppose authority unless he is the authority [Luos are only tribe I know that migrated after falling out with fellow Luos in South Sudan - other people left coz of land or pasture or some external pressure..even with Luo Nyanza most of migration is due to Luo Clan A opposing Clan B..and Clan B decide to move out]
Kikuyu-Luo simply cannot work together.
what last and makes this country stable is Kikuyu-Kalenjin union.
When Kenyatta picked Moi in 1968 - he enjoyed 12 yrs of loyalty and stability.
When Moi became PORK - he picked Kikuyu VP - and that lasted some 10yrs - before the fallout btw Kikuyu and Kalenjin.
You can see how harmonious and stable Uhuru has had 5yrs - he has totally been stress free.
The nature of Kalenjin is harmony & loyalty. The nature of Kalenjin if you backstab or betray them is to bring untold suffering through war. That counter-balances the kikuyu propensity to backstab.


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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2017, 11:23:38 AM »
let the talks begin

William Ruto WILL NEVER allow that kind of nusu mkate nonsense,

Without Prejudice.

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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2017, 11:27:10 AM »
Fair enough..kalenjin are raiders..when Kenyatta and jaramogi worked together it was after years of collobration in fighting for Independence..Kenyatta moi relationship was out of desperation after murumbi bailed out Kenyatta needed cover and since he had betrayed Everyone else only moi was willing to take a chance..it was a political hail Mary by senile Kenyatta.. the same hail Mary kibaki passed to ruto ..the damage that moi regime did to Kenya is there for all to see..kibaki realized his mistake too late and tried to reach out to luhyas through mudavadi.. Uhuru ended being a pawn in the game. He is now sitting at the precipe while ruto subverts the consitution...Kikuyus may be quite now but they have their eyes and antennas out about what happened..in 3 months to come Uhuru will loose the respect of Kikuyus moderates once they know that he allowed ruto to fuck presidency..the fallout will happen..raila needs to keep the pressure while he talks to his kid brother in the darkness...
Kalenjins need another 4 decades to develop a critical mass of elites that can persuade and strategically win elections without riding on coctails of others or being political scavengers ..ruto is a like a hyena angling for a meat in possession of a lion pride..

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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2017, 11:32:56 AM »
let the talks begin

William Ruto WILL NEVER allow that kind of nusu mkate nonsense,

Without Prejudice.

The peasant boy will know he doesn't know..he opened too many fronts ..kabogo met Uhuru

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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2017, 11:35:01 AM »
You're mistaken. Kalenjin have won competitive elections in 90s against all the BIG tribes. Ruto as you speak has build so big a tent - kikuyus in Jubilee are the third leg - in fact by 2022 Ruto will win with or without Kikuyu vote - Ruto is consolidating his position as de-facto non-gema leader. All Ruto will need in 2022 is to have repeat of 90s - where all big tribes - ran for PORK - and Ruto wins backed by all small tribes. It already happening. You need to understand why Jubilee was formed and why Ruto invested so much in it - and it 13 mps from super-majority.

Think about this - Jubilee has 220 mps affiliated - trust me if I tell you Kikuyus Mps are less than 60 of those. Now tell me if 60 mps quit today -  Ruto will be left with 160mps - actually he'll just continue to buy and convert more and more...build Jubilee to be so big like KANU..it would be laughable how to start to splinter it.

People who never dealt with Ruto don't understand just how effective and ruthless a political operator he is. How Ruto has destroyed the likes of Peter Keneth and many others is stuff you'll never get to read about...right now. Ruto right now is working on strategy where he wins PORK with or without anyone support. His only opponent remain Odinga (coz Raila post 2002 enjoys popularity outside Luo Nyanza)..and after Odinga is floored in the re-run - he'll have no opponent - and if GEMA want switch sides - that would still be welcomed :D. All we need from Mr Odinga is the mijikenda vote....that some 1.5m votes....otherwise I think Odinga now with 60mps :) is pretty much down and out. Ruto just has to figure out how to crack Joho-Kingi firewal in coast. That is the most frustrating thing for him now.

Kalenjins need another 4 decades to develop a critical mass of elites that can persuade and strategically win elections without riding on coctails of others or being political scavengers ..ruto is a like a hyena angling for a meat in possession of a lion pride..

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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2017, 11:44:08 AM »
There lone ranger political scheming by ruto cannot win anything..even with this he still went ahead and rigged the election ..days of minority rule aka 36 percent of moi top up died with biwott and kamotho..ruto with access to state resources would fizzle ..he is now playing a role of a local rural bar maid during commodity boom..he is getting bedded by here and there..moi fucked him hard to win 36 percent..Gideon hired the peasant..kibaki mafia literally tied a lit tryre on his neck to force him to flee odm, raila fucked him till Nara came knocking

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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2017, 11:51:47 AM »
What do you mean lone -ranger - when he the guy who brought everyone on board. Kikuyu politicians have to realize that kenya is bigger than GEMA. In fact without Ruto working hard to bring in other communiites -Jubilee would still be GEMA+Kalenjin party exclusively- Uhuru and his guys are so insular - while demography of the country is changing fast. Jubilee is a big party like KANU thanks to Ruto.

This is what gave Moi power in 78 - and what kept him in power for 24yrs - because he realized there is a lot to play for outside the big tribes. In fact that is where everything is played in. The big tribes will always have their owners and if you want them - it few minutes negotiation with the owners. The 30% - others - are fu.ckable by anybody.

There lone ranger political scheming by ruto cannot win anything..even with this he still went ahead and rigged the election ..days of minority rule aka 36 percent of moi top up died with biwott and kamotho..ruto with access to state resources would fizzle ..he is now playing a role of a local rural bar maid during commodity boom..he is getting bedded by here and there..moi fucked him hard to win 36 percent..Gideon hired the peasant..kibaki mafia literally tied a lit tryre on his neck to force him to flee odm, raila fucked him till Nara came knocking

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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2017, 02:09:54 PM »
Pundit I thought you said this "Global" dude - a kikuyu supremacist  :D - grudgingly accepts reality. Why can't he see that Ruto is too smart and has been co-president for 4yrs already - with 2022 PORK already bagged. Only Omollo should be duelling with this reality by now - in the absence of a half attack - aka nusu mkate :D
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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2017, 02:12:53 PM »
Presidents of Kenya

1. Jomo Kamau Kenyatta
2. Daniel T. arap Moi
3. Hezekiah Rabala Ochuka
4. Emilio Mwai Kibaki
5. Uhuru Muigai Kenyatta
6. William S. arap Ruto
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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2017, 04:10:31 PM »
Njamba is only global if the measure is the distance he travelled from Kijabe to Deleware.
Pundit I thought you said this "Global" dude - a kikuyu supremacist  :D - grudgingly accepts reality. Why can't he see that Ruto is too smart and has been co-president for 4yrs already - with 2022 PORK already bagged. Only Omollo should be duelling with this reality by now - in the absence of a half attack - aka nusu mkate :D

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Re: Kikuyus and luos are natural Allies..uhuru needs to be guided
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2017, 07:00:02 PM »
Pundit I thought you said this "Global" dude - a kikuyu supremacist  :D - grudgingly accepts reality. Why can't he see that Ruto is too smart and has been co-president for 4yrs already - with 2022 PORK already bagged. Only Omollo should be duelling with this reality by now - in the absence of a half attack - aka nusu mkate :D
I am no a Kikuyu supremacist..but a half baked cyber political analyst..I will give ruto his due and say he has been a royal servant of gema. He should now get married in kiambu then voters may give him the benefit of doubt ..