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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2017, 06:50:21 PM »
Ah, I see. So it means zilch. Seems whichever IT guys are in NASA are really making mullah here.

In the absence of a context, yes, it's meaningless.
Who are these guys? They should be fired. I haven't bothered looking at the petition documents but I hope its not part of the case but bored people on the internet. This would be doubly embarrassing if it was.

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2017, 06:51:43 PM »
Ah, I see. So it means zilch. Seems whichever IT guys are in NASA are really making mullah here.

In the absence of a context, yes, it's meaningless.
Who are these guys? They should be fired.

Maybe they fired the ones who were more realistic.  It seems like Raila at this time is consumed by confirmation bias and will only go with whoever feeds his suspicions.
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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2017, 06:53:34 PM »
Ah, I see. So it means zilch. Seems whichever IT guys are in NASA are really making mullah here.

In the absence of a context, yes, it's meaningless.
Who are these guys? They should be fired.

Maybe they fired the ones who were more realistic.  It seems like Raila at this time is consumed by confirmation bias and will only go with whoever feeds his suspicions.
True. But after that logs fiasco, shouldnt they be sober?

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2017, 06:58:44 PM »

In the absence of a context, yes, it's meaningless.
Who are these guys? They should be fired.

Maybe they fired the ones who were more realistic.  It seems like Raila at this time is consumed by confirmation bias and will only go with whoever feeds his suspicions.
True. But after that logs fiasco, shouldnt they be sober?

Maybe.  But this could also just be red meat for the base.  Fanatics are rarely concerned with the veracity of claims; it affects both sides and we see that here quite often. 

If you read their petition, they are not so caught up on the same things they are promoting in public.
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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2017, 07:00:00 PM »
I have not got in to and would not push my head up the as.H like some pastor.

I think prior to the election there were certain security features used by the IEBC exactly to avoid duplication and forgeries. I believe this is what has let them down. For I to say with certainty that they are forgeries or acquit the IEBC (as some pastor) I need the full repository of all the original as well as any other distinguishing feature. After all the idea behind it was to guard against forgeries - even by the IEBC - and they made that assurance.
 
There are also too many Form 34 out there. In some cases the IEBC itself (from what I hear) has submitted to the court papers quite different from those on its portal.

That is why I am not sure who between "NASWA" and vooke should go slow on weed. I notice Pundit got a quick orgasm from vooke's "wisdom". :D :D :D :D
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I am a little slow.  What is this picture supposed to be showing?
Im guessing fake barcodes but I have no idea how those work anyway.

So fake barcodes prove Form 34B forgeries?  Does that make sense?  I am not even dismissing it as such.  I just don't know what one has to do with the other.  That is why an explanation can be helpful.
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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2017, 07:01:21 PM »
How do you know that is the copy the IEBC surrendered to the court / NASA?

Keiyo South


I can read the form's serial number from the barcode.


NASWA should go slow on weed and check whatever scanner they be using

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2017, 07:04:44 PM »
I mean even their Western world backers are now ashamed.Its like Zim Tsavingirai dude who got beat so bad everyone including the wife abandoned him.You lose the elections and your mind in the process.What a tragedy.



His wife died for crying out loud...

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2017, 07:14:36 PM »
How do you know that is the copy the IEBC surrendered to the court / NASA?

Keiyo South


I can read the form's serial number from the barcode.


NASWA should go slow on weed and check whatever scanner they be using

Because they are on the portal. Now, if you think NASWA is scanning different codes other than those on the portal on forms 34B, kindly furnish me with the ones for Naivasha or Keiyo South I scan.


Apart from being on the portal, the results on these forms match form 34C used to declare Uhunye. So IEBC clearly is ready to stand by these. Look up the results for these two constituencies.

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2017, 07:30:59 PM »
I never knew barcodes have a slot in the affidavits
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Omorlo, Jimmy told us they was furnished with soft copies of all the results coming to about 1TB. Please extract forms 34B for Naivasha and Keiyo South and share them right here.
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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2017, 07:47:15 PM »
So is that in the petition?

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2017, 08:01:07 PM »
Nothing.Just changing allegation as NASA scrap to the bottom of the barrel.

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2017, 08:02:11 PM »
I have no access.

The disc size you are right. However the information on it was not that size.

I never knew barcodes have a slot in the affidavits
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Omorlo, Jimmy told us they was furnished with soft copies of all the results coming to about 1TB. Please extract forms 34B for Naivasha and Keiyo South and share them right here.

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2017, 08:05:05 PM »
Another dog beating from SCOK inafanya somersault.Prepare for a kick in NASA stomach.A fatal kick.Just concede.Kalenjin nation as recently as 2010 concede to the referendum...folks healed and move from the pain of the loss.This NASA tragedy is going to get worse because the lessons of this loss will be lost.They will think it was stolen making it even harder in 2022 to get out of the hole.

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2017, 08:06:07 PM »
Kadame

I will answer you because you continue to display a keen understanding of issues. I wish I had gone on to become an advocate! You will go places sister!

As part of the petition, the IEBC is required to turn over specific documents etc. They turned over documents to the court and the petitioner was given (copies). It is these now being referenced.

NASA is not making "new" claims as some Data Entry Clerk is now claiming below.
So is that in the petition?
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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2017, 08:07:46 PM »
These are what we call threats and bravado. Village cocks do it before being beaten to hide under the owner's bed.

Another dog beating from SCOK inafanya somersault.Prepare for a kick in NASA stomach.A fatal kick.
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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2017, 08:12:36 PM »
This one is mere week.1st Sept Friday.I have read IEBC solid response and it obvious you gonna be crying rigged of compromised supreme court.7 Nil.If you get one judge to agree with you consider that victory.No supreme Court judge worth is name will back NASA bullshiet.This worse than Mutunga 2013 where even Mr Mutunga couldn't help.Plain disaster.

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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2017, 08:34:58 PM »
I have no access.

The disc size you are right. However the information on it was not that size.

I never knew barcodes have a slot in the affidavits

Omorlo, Jimmy told us they was furnished with soft copies of all the results coming to about 1TB. Please extract forms 34B for Naivasha and Keiyo South and share them right here.


Ok. Thanks
NASWA petitions are embedded on this link but I can't find the particular affidavit from which this was extracted. Could you please share the full Affidavit if you have it?
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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2017, 08:39:55 PM »
So is that in the petition?

I think it's part of the NASA response to IEBC's response to their petition - I don't know the legalese for that.  It's not in the original petition.

NASA is saying that IEBC Forms 34B are supposed to show IEBC related information, I am not sure what.  And presumably they don't.

Here is what I know.

1.  It is possible to have barcodes encode that sort of thing. 
2.  To make sense of it, the barcode reader must be used with a program that can deduce that kind thing.  It could be embedded in the specific barcode reader, located somewhere else, an app ... if you get gist. 
3.  A barcode reader coupled with the incorrect  program will and should give you garbage.

And what I don't know in the form of questions.

1. Are IEBC Forms 34A supposed to have that sort thing in their barcodes? 
2. What purpose would it serve?
2. Do they actually have it?
3. Does NASA have access to the putative programs required to interpret that kind of thing into something meaningful? 
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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2017, 09:03:49 PM »
The Registrar uploads the documents after a certain process. Courts making mistakes can be very costly so they have a routine which in Kenya's case is rather slow. But they should appear at the portal (that word again!) I provided the link to in the Petition General Thread.

I have no access.

The disc size you are right. However the information on it was not that size.

I never knew barcodes have a slot in the affidavits

Omorlo, Jimmy told us they was furnished with soft copies of all the results coming to about 1TB. Please extract forms 34B for Naivasha and Keiyo South and share them right here.


Ok. Thanks
NASWA petitions are embedded on this link but I can't find the particular affidavit from which this was extracted. Could you please share the full Affidavit if you have it?
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Re: Bombshell: IEBC Form 34B Forgeries Proven
« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2017, 10:13:41 PM »
pure speculation... I think the barcode feature would mainly serve as a security feature as well as help in sorting, filtering and compiling data.  But at one time I saw where a polling station had submitted data on exercise book page that had no barcode or security feature...IEBC could help to clear this confusion on how they were able to verify and validate data from polling station.

So is that in the petition?

I think it's part of the NASA response to IEBC's response to their petition - I don't know the legalese for that.  It's not in the original petition.

NASA is saying that IEBC Forms 34B are supposed to show IEBC related information, I am not sure what.  And presumably they don't.

Here is what I know.

1.  It is possible to have barcodes encode that sort of thing. 
2.  To make sense of it, the barcode reader must be used with a program that can deduce that kind thing.  It could be embedded in the specific barcode reader, located somewhere else, an app ... if you get gist. 
3.  A barcode reader coupled with the incorrect  program will and should give you garbage.

And what I don't know in the form of questions.



1. Are IEBC Forms 34A supposed to have that sort thing in their barcodes? 
2. What purpose would it serve?
2. Do they actually have it?
3. Does NASA have access to the putative programs required to interpret that kind of thing into something meaningful?