Author Topic: NASA Petition General (Read 84837 times)

bryan275 · « **Reply #300 on:** August 29, 2017, 02:24:23 PM »

Macharia kakamatwa na uongo on why Uhuru miraculously acquired more votes than the other offices. Nje kabisa -

RV Pundit · « **Reply #301 on:** August 29, 2017, 03:48:31 PM »

Kinyanjui; With his accent getting on the way it hard to understand.

Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants · « **Reply #302 on:** August 29, 2017, 03:49:56 PM »

Quote from: RV Pundit on August 29, 2017, 03:48:31 PM

Kinyanjui; With his accent getting on the way it hard to understand.

He is very easy to understand. He is a card carrying muthamakist. This is almost like a hostile witness.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #303 on:** August 29, 2017, 03:58:53 PM »

Orengo: Rejoinder - Amollo - Nowrejee and finally closing argument by Orengo.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #304 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:02:28 PM »

Amollo: He is making an argument that Chebukati declared PORK elect without checking Form 34s A. The maina kia rulling seem to have come to bite NASA. Now they wish Chebukati could do more than just announce final results. Verify?

vooke · « **Reply #305 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:05:35 PM »

Are forms 34A necessary for declaration of results at NTC?

That's where this case hinges

vooke · « **Reply #306 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:08:51 PM »

Otiende repeating the already debunked claim that the differential is 500K+ and not 80K

RV Pundit · « **Reply #307 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:09:18 PM »

Amollo second point - discrepancy of 500K - btw presidential & other votes cannot be explained.
Now Nowrejee -- Answer Ngatia - on matters law. Chebukati did not Verify - verify.

vooke · « **Reply #308 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:13:37 PM »

Pheroze: if we never got the forms, they were never with IEBC

RV Pundit · « **Reply #309 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:20:09 PM »

Seem NASA case now hinges on the intepertation of Maina Kia rulling. Allegation of hacking/fraud/fake forms.

Pheroze : Says IEBC retro-actively edited form 34As. That could have happened. He is now making absurd allegations.

Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants · « **Reply #310 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:23:46 PM »

Who is paying this Harrison Kinyanjui guy? I am not sure it makes sense for Wainaina to fork out money to him to enjoin the petition so he can oppose it.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #311 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:25:39 PM »

He is busy body who files many cases. Most of times he file morality questions. I think he is catholic nut case. Kanjama twin.

Quote from: Vintage Windy City Assassin on August 29, 2017, 04:23:46 PM

Who is paying this Harrison Kinyanjui guy? I am not sure it makes sense for Wainaina to fork out money to him to enjoin the petition so he can oppose it.

vooke · « **Reply #312 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:28:52 PM »

Pheroze veers off by reverting to bar codes.

Forms 34A are printed with only results entered manually.

Forms 34B are blank forms with results printed on them.

That's what I get from the samples in the portals. To get forms 34B, you print some spreadsheet on them and then sign.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #313 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:42:56 PM »

Nowrejee: We have no smoking gun.Uhuru stole and hid the smoking gun. Our case rest on whether Chebukati announced the results after verifying or not.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #314 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:47:09 PM »

The maina Kia court of appeal rulling http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/137601/

RV Pundit · « **Reply #315 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:49:36 PM »

NASA need to rule Maina Kia rulling again. They asked for it - they got it. Chebukati kazi yake ni rahisi.
http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/137601/

The chairperson on the other hand is appointed under Article 250 of the Constitution. The chairperson therefore cannot be, and is not, the appellant. It is envisaged in Article 86 that for the purpose of conducting an election the appellant will be represented at the polling stations and constituency tallying centres by the presiding officers, and the returning officers, respectively, who as we have seen, are appointed by the appellant. . Members and employees of the appellant are bound by a code of conduct. In any case apart from the offences related to voting, or any other election-related offences committed by members or employees of the appellant created under the Election Offences Act, section 30 of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission Act makes it an offence for a member or employee of the appellant, to knowingly subvert the process of free and fair elections. A person who is convicted of an election-offence is not eligible to hold public office for a period of ten years following the conviction. As we have indicated, there are several mechanisms that the appellant can and must deploy to eradicate malfeasance on the part of its staff and officers.

RV Pundit · « **Reply #316 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:53:42 PM »

NASA 32 lawyers never read Maina Kia rulling.Plain English version for 32 lawyers.

In short after High court rulling which Maina Kiai won - IEBC went and changed the regulation to what NASA now wants.

The Court of Appeal - found what NASA is now asking to be so odius - they said IEBC was acting in bad faith & trying to go round the high court rulling.

They clarified - Chebukati has nothing like verfying - his job is to tally.

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vooke · « **Reply #317 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:55:04 PM »

Quote from: RV Pundit on August 29, 2017, 04:49:36 PM

NASA need to rule Maina Kia rulling again. They asked for it - they got it. Chebukati kazi yake ni rahisi.
http://kenyalaw.org/caselaw/cases/view/137601/

The chairperson on the other hand is appointed under Article 250 of the Constitution. The chairperson therefore cannot be, and is not, the appellant. It is envisaged in Article 86 that for the purpose of conducting an election the appellant will be represented at the polling stations and constituency tallying centres by the presiding officers, and the returning officers, respectively, who as we have seen, are appointed by the appellant. . Members and employees of the appellant are bound by a code of conduct. In any case apart from the offences related to voting, or any other election-related offences committed by members or employees of the appellant created under the Election Offences Act, section 30 of the Independent Electoral and Boundaries Commission Act makes it an offence for a member or employee of the appellant, to knowingly subvert the process of free and fair elections. A person who is convicted of an election-offence is not eligible to hold public office for a period of ten years following the conviction. As we have indicated, there are several mechanisms that the appellant can and must deploy to eradicate malfeasance on the part of its staff and officers.

Wow!

Boom!

RV Pundit · « **Reply #318 on:** August 29, 2017, 04:59:12 PM »

Orengo; Quoting the same Civil Rule 105 - but on anything the case is about (Finality of results at Polling station & Const) - but transmission and ICT

vooke · « **Reply #319 on:** August 29, 2017, 05:02:03 PM »

Quote from: RV Pundit on August 29, 2017, 04:53:42 PM

NASA 32 lawyers never read Maina Kia rulling.Plain English version for 32 lawyers.

In short after High court rulling which Maina Kiai won - IEBC went and changed the regulation to what NASA now wants.

The Court of Appeal - found what NASA is now asking to be so odius - they said IEBC was acting in bad faith.

They clarified - Chebukati has nothing like verfying - his job is to tally.

In short, it does not matter if ROs injure figures out of their rear, once they declare them, only a petition can overturn them.

In this case, why isn't NASWA pursuing a recount in at least a sample of these 11K stations to prove tampering. Isn't what Pheroze arguing known as misapprehension?

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Author Topic: NASA Petition General (Read 84837 times)