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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #320 on: August 29, 2017, 05:02:59 PM »
Amicus AG Prof Githu : Take the podium - I think his submission is restricted to Itumbi-Kuria rulling that invalid vote don't count.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #321 on: August 29, 2017, 05:05:31 PM »
That is what NASA wanted - through their friend Maina; I don't know why they are now changing their position; they are looking for anything; the fact that Chebukati announced the results without all form 34s is one such straw.

What Pheroze managed to tell us is that 5pm audit has turned out to be clean. He said they have no smoking gun.

In short, it does not matter if ROs  injure figures out of their rear, once they declare them, only a petition can overturn them.


In this case, why isn't NASWA pursuing a recount in at least a sample of these 11K stations to prove tampering. Isn't what Pheroze arguing known as misapprehension?

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #322 on: August 29, 2017, 05:06:25 PM »
Mortal Friend:  Let us just ignore the constitution.
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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #323 on: August 29, 2017, 05:51:33 PM »
Who is paying this Harrison Kinyanjui guy?  I am not sure it makes sense for Wainaina to fork out money to him to enjoin the petition so he can oppose it.

Same folk that have the mortician pleading to be a friend of the court.  Somebody has three teams in there bidding for him.

Nothing more.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #324 on: August 29, 2017, 09:00:34 PM »
Orengo; Now analysing the report from Milimani - Scrutiny.

Form 34B.
56 forms did not have water-mark
5 forms not signed
2 forms not stamped.
31 forms without serial numbers.
32 forms not signed by agents
189 forms without hand-over notes.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #325 on: August 29, 2017, 09:03:04 PM »
Orengo: I can't barely talk; I can believe this.

I will begin with serious ones.

Talking of non-compliance

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #326 on: August 29, 2017, 09:08:59 PM »
Raila is present. Orengo shaking :) and really making a meal.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #327 on: August 29, 2017, 09:11:24 PM »
Orengo:Forms with issues affected 5m report. Registar should be commended.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #328 on: August 29, 2017, 09:12:24 PM »
Muite is telling the cops to ignore the dead body in the car and focus on the speeding violation.
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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #329 on: August 29, 2017, 09:12:44 PM »
Muite object to Orengo trying to submit new report: says the discussion is restricted on the report by the Registar.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #330 on: August 29, 2017, 09:13:38 PM »
There are laws of admitting evidence. It's too late to admit new documents. What will be discussed is the registar report. NASA just have to respect the basic of rules.
Muite is telling the cops to ignore the dead body in the car and focus on the speeding violation.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #331 on: August 29, 2017, 09:14:40 PM »
There are laws of admitting evidence. It's too late to admit new documents. What will be discussed is the registar report. NASA just have to respect the basic of rules.
Muite is telling the cops to ignore the dead body in the car and focus on the speeding violation.

I know.  Technicalities.
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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #332 on: August 29, 2017, 09:16:00 PM »
This court of law. If you admit new evidence; then you have to give the other party time to respond.
I know.  Technicalities.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #333 on: August 29, 2017, 09:17:31 PM »
There is tension in the court; Judges conferring; Maraga - we did not give parties liberty to file their own reports. The report was by the Registar (at Milimani) and IEBC HQ (Court appointed Experts).

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #334 on: August 29, 2017, 09:18:07 PM »
Maraga: Orengo shove the report. Orengo accepts to withdraw the report.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #335 on: August 29, 2017, 09:19:33 PM »
Orengo: The two reports (By IT expert & Registar) are smoking guns. Plead with judges to look at the "fake" forms - they were not Algurair. Our case has been proven - forgery, alteration of documents - has been used in various ways. Including the one the one of the servers.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #336 on: August 29, 2017, 09:22:10 PM »
Consequent upon the said Orders, we hereby make the following further Orders:

(i) The Registrar of this court assisted by a number of judicial officers and staff as she may determine shall supervise access to the certified copies of original Forms 34A and Forms 34B by the petitioners and 3rd Respondents at such a venue as she shall determine in consultation with the parties. A report on that exercise and related issues shall be filed by the Registrar by Tuesday, 29th August 2017 at 5.00 p.m. and parties are at liberty to submit on it at the end of the hearing.
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #337 on: August 29, 2017, 09:22:23 PM »
Muite : 15 minutes:  Complementing the Registar  & IT expert for producing two reports.  Repeating Orengo pleading to judges to compare the report and forms.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #338 on: August 29, 2017, 09:24:04 PM »
Muite; Registar say NASA arrived late & introduced a new checklist - for verifying form 34 As and 34Bs.

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Re: NASA Petition General
« Reply #339 on: August 29, 2017, 09:26:12 PM »
Muite: No requirement on security features :) Okay I think that is slipery argument.