I am ambivalent about crackdown of some of these "NGOs"

[RV Pundit]

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Although it reeks of old KANU - after their role in ICC and knowing their partisan support for Raila - I think it's only fair for Uhuru to give them somefair share of that back. So yeah they better start sticking to the letter of the law - making sure they have crossed all the ts! Otherwise KRA, Immigration, CID and CBK need to be on them like white on rice...sniffing everything Maina Kiaias/Ndiis/Makaus of this world do with George Soros of this world.

[vooke]

You have a point.
If you are going against a regime, keep your house in order to minimize opportunistic retaliation.

NASWA could easily have procured work permit for their Ghanian/American data crunchers/'hackers' weeks or months ahead for instance.

Back to these NGOs, if these allegations are true, then activism pays much more than tenderpreneurship. What on Earth is KHC doing with 1.9B in under 12 months? 100M+ per month, 3M DAILY

[RV Pundit]

Precisely. Uhuru has been so nice to these NGOS - who are basically a third front of Raila's ODM and now it about time they feel the weighty of the law. They have concocted and twisted evidence & facts while hidding under cloud of NGOS and receiving huge funding. It's time for them to stick to the LAW.

You have a point.
If you are going against a regime, keep your house in order to minimize opportunistic retaliation.

NASWA could easily have procured work permit for their Ghanian/American data crunchers/'hackers' weeks or months ahead for instance.

Back to these NGOs, if these allegations are true, then activism pays much more than tenderpreneurship

[Omollo]

More propaganda. You could try to caress Uhuru's balls in secret for a change.

Uhuru is that nice man who has passed several laws intended to limit the activities of civil society.

He is the same nice man keeping a non existent office / officer illegally so he can purport to deregister NGOs. He is the same nice man who refused to effect the Public Benefit Act passed by Kibaki before he left Office. A court order did effect the law but Uhuru refuses to fully implement it by keeping offices like that of Fazul.

It is nice Uhuru who despite evidence that Fazul is unqualified for his job, keeps him in office and when Kiunjuri (of all the people) directed that he be fired, Uhuru protected Fazul by moving the functions from Devolution to Interior where Fazul sits in grace.

It is Uhuru who banned NGOs from running voter education even with funds from the very US you are now waving over our heads. You supported the ban at the time and added a few unsavory things. Today you are full of praise for the US.

You Pundit are not ambivalent. You support Uhuru's oppressive and primitive approach to NGOs.

Precisely. Uhuru has been so nice to these NGOS - who are basically a third front of Raila's ODM and now it about time they feel the weighty of the law. They have concocted and twisted evidence & facts while hidding under cloud of NGOS and receiving huge funding. It's time for them to stick to the LAW.

You have a point.
If you are going against a regime, keep your house in order to minimize opportunistic retaliation.

NASWA could easily have procured work permit for their Ghanian/American data crunchers/'hackers' weeks or months ahead for instance.

Back to these NGOs, if these allegations are true, then activism pays much more than tenderpreneurship

[vooke]

Africog is a company!

Fazul has no power to deregister KHRC without notice and a hearing, nor can he order closure of AfriCOG which is not an NGO but a company. pic.twitter.com/LWFd9GFyWJ

— Nelson Havi (@NelsonHavi) August 15, 2017

[Omollo]

You know you could try to be reasonable instead of pushing this propaganda so hard.

It is also uncouth to refer to the two Ghanaian officials as hackers. You have zero basis for that. I know it is the kind of thing that goes down very well in a GEMA infested bar where each lie echoes another. But here please respect yourself even if you don't respect us.

When did Uhuru get work permits for the people he hired?

You have a point.
If you are going against a regime, keep your house in order to minimize opportunistic retaliation.

NASWA could easily have procured work permit for their Ghanian/American data crunchers/'hackers' weeks or months ahead for instance.

Back to these NGOs, if these allegations are true, then activism pays much more than tenderpreneurship. What on Earth is KHC doing with 1.9B in under 12 months? 100M+ per month, 3M DAILY

[vooke]

You know you could try to be reasonable instead of pushing this propaganda so hard.

It is also uncouth to refer to the two Ghanaian officials as hackers. You have zero basis for that. I know it is the kind of thing that goes down very well in a GEMA infested bar where each lie echoes another. But here please respect yourself even if you don't respect us.

When did Uhuru get work permits for the people he hired?

You have a point.
If you are going against a regime, keep your house in order to minimize opportunistic retaliation.

NASWA could easily have procured work permit for their Ghanian/American data crunchers/'hackers' weeks or months ahead for instance.

Back to these NGOs, if these allegations are true, then activism pays much more than tenderpreneurship. What on Earth is KHC doing with 1.9B in under 12 months? 100M+ per month, 3M DAILY

I said/put hackers in quotes because the claims are unverified. Data crunchers ? Yes given the American firm does that. Isnt that enough?

Please wacha matusi.

Jubilee is GoK and GoK is Jubilee. NASWA ain't GoK, so stay out of harm's way by complying. Give GoK/Jubilee fewer excuses to harass

[Nefertiti]

Hehe yeah. Obviously if you are Africog you hit right back by claiming you were about to file petition - and that GOK took the papers and evidence. Milk the cow to the max... in readiness to appeal to donors.

[Kichwa]

Robina:  whatever you do, never support a government going after the civil society in a democracy in Africa.  The government is very powerful and runs a mafia with impunity. They control everything including the parliament and the judiciary and somehow you are worried about the measly funded NGO's. Pundit and Vooke will never speak ill of this government but see how quickly they come to support you when you too go after the weak guys. Their aim is to shut any form of checks and balances down. They believe they have shut the opposition down by rigging the opposition and now you give up them comfort to go after the only remaining semblance of a push back? Why do you think they want Raila to retire-so that they can plunder the country and reinstate the Kenyatta/Moi days.

Hehe yeah. Obviously if you are Africog you hit right back by claiming you were about to file petition - and that GOK took the papers and evidence. Milk the cow to the max... in readiness to appeal to donors.

[Nefertiti]

Yes Kichwa. Pundit's job is to cheer Ruto. Raila, NASA and civil society's job is to check the government. If am Africog I would milk these events to the max... make serious claims of threats and bribes and whatnot. And if am NASA - even if I have any evidence of legitimacy - I will not reveal it and will still condemn Uhuru and Chebukati - to use as future leverage. Someone will win this and not just because of whining.

Robina is a simpleton, I don't even know much politics except what I read here. I only own a condo, a chevy and a few bitcoins  The observations here have zero influence on the happenings in the corridors of power.

[Omollo]

Africog is registered under the Companies Act. So for Fazul to write to them claiming it is "not registered" and thus subjecting it to harassment says it all.

Hehe yeah. Obviously if you are Africog you hit right back by claiming you were about to file petition - and that GOK took the papers and evidence. Milk the cow to the max... in readiness to appeal to donors.

[Kichwa]

Wow Robina, you do not sound like a simpleton to me. I just find it amusing that with all the corruption going on in the country they have time to go after civil society and anybody who supports the opposition. How is the opposition supposed to even exists if the government is going to spend the next five years going after everybody who supports them. This is what we mean by saying that we are going back to the Moi years and that is why the opposition must remain defiant and vigilant.

Yes Kichwa. Pundit's job is to cheer Ruto. Raila, NASA and civil society's job is to check the government. If am Africog I would milk these events to the max... make serious claims of threats and bribes and whatnot. And if am NASA - even if I have any evidence of legitimacy - I will not reveal it and will still condemn Uhuru and Chebukati - to use as future leverage. Someone will win this and not just because of whining.

Robina is a simpleton, I don't even know much politics except what I read here. I only own a condo, a chevy and a few bitcoins  The observations here have zero influence on the happenings in the corridors of power.

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The correct term is not ambivalence.  It is full endorsement.