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The David Ndii Interview
« on: July 04, 2017, 02:31:14 PM »
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2017, 02:50:07 PM »
Ndii should have gone a bit slow on that lady. She was not fully prepared for the interview and she must have thought her interview partner would be the level of Aden Nduale or Mike Sonko.

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2017, 03:03:30 PM »
Let me help Pundit to stop LYING about or manifesto which he has NOT read:

https://nasacoalition.com/our-manifesto/

[pdf]https://nasacoalition.com/Nasa-Coalition-Manifesto.pdf[/pdf]
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2017, 04:14:44 PM »
okwara interview was better


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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2017, 04:32:21 PM »
I just watched the entire Ndii interview and do not understand what Pundit was talking about.  The only problem was that the answers Ndii was giving were way over Kiguta's level of understanding and that infuriated her.  I blame this on the Network for pitting Kiguta against someone way over her class.  Also, Kiguta did not prepare for the answers Ndii was giving and this took her out of her game plan and she became visibly frustrated and angry.  She should have been angry with her the level of preparation instead of snipping at Ndii who tried very hard to simplify his answers to accommodate her level of understanding. 
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2017, 05:15:20 PM »
 A much better interview and very enlighting.  I am so glad he was able to clearly articulate the fundamental ideological differences between the two parties and their followers.  The ideological arguments go back to the Kenyattaa/Jaramogi days.  Building a nation as only measured  by economics and that which focuses on democracy, equality, dignity and unity of the nation.  When Kenyattaa realized that he was losing this argument to the likes of Jaramogi, JM etc., he found a way to tribalize it by making it a kikuyu/luo argument rather than ideological.  The kikuyus took the kiapo to support Kenyatta and the tribal nation was born.  I am really praying for this country that NASA wins so that we can go back to the drawing table and fundamentally change the political direction of this country by properly defining these ideological differences.  If the mask of tribalism that Kenyattaa placed on them is removed then the NASA argument will win.


okwara interview was better

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2017, 05:20:29 PM »
I just watched the entire Ndii interview and do not understand what Pundit was talking about.  The only problem was that the answers Ndii was giving were way over Kiguta's level of understanding and that infuriated her.  I blame this on the Network for pitting Kiguta against someone way over her class.  Also, Kiguta did not prepare for the answers Ndii was giving and this took her out of her game plan and she became visibly frustrated and angry.  She should have been angry with her the level of preparation instead of snipping at Ndii who tried very hard to simplify his answers to accommodate her level of understanding. 
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My take is that both Okwara and Kiguta found themselves in the deep end - going by the questions and comments (alone!!!) they give on the interview.

However while Okwara was able to move on and veer over her ignorance, Kiguta got mad - visibly so and even tried to remind David who was boss. Why the difference?

Kiguta had an agenda. She came armed with fake documents and cheating notes prepared for a tendentious interview. Ndii informed her as early as possible that she was using the wrong document. But as you can see she continues to quote from the same document ignoring the correction. It was a most egregious act on her part.

Okwaro starts by showing she had made some preparations. She asks Ndii to introduce the multiple documents - thus avoiding the shame of citing the wrong document.

I still do not understand why Anne continued using the cheating notes to ask questions.

On the answers she was given, I thought after being reminded three times that the NASA manifesto was based on the implementation of the constitution she would learn and adapt. Instead she goes ahead to ask the NIS question on EJK - whether NASA will disband the killer unit or whether they will be allowed to continue killing Kenyans. How else did she expect to be answered?

Ndii again told her the constitution was very clear on the matter. She interjected - which part and was informed the Bill of Rights! Still the woman had locked her brain for knowledge. She demanded to know what NASA would do!

My take is that Kiguta's arrogance and her extreme loyalty to Jubilee influenced her actions to the extent of damaging her. I think she should declare her interests and recuse herself from these interviews.

I wondered if Ndii's constant reference to "conflict of interests" hit her several times because social media has been urging her to recuse herself from these interviews based on her being the wife of Jomo Gecaga - Uhuru Kenyatta's nephew and Personal Assistant.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2017, 05:38:12 PM »

Ann was handed game plan which called upon her to KO a boxer  clearly above her punching weight. It failed miserably and she got angry because of her inability to execute the plan handed over to her.  She is too married to Jubilee to be given such interviews. I am glad Mdvd refused to come and Prof. Ndii came instead.

I just watched the entire Ndii interview and do not understand what Pundit was talking about.  The only problem was that the answers Ndii was giving were way over Kiguta's level of understanding and that infuriated her.  I blame this on the Network for pitting Kiguta against someone way over her class.  Also, Kiguta did not prepare for the answers Ndii was giving and this took her out of her game plan and she became visibly frustrated and angry.  She should have been angry with her the level of preparation instead of snipping at Ndii who tried very hard to simplify his answers to accommodate her level of understanding. 
KM

My take is that both Okwara and Kiguta found themselves in the deep end - going by the questions and comments (alone!!!) they give on the interview.

However while Okwara was able to move on and veer over her ignorance, Kiguta got mad - visibly so and even tried to remind David who was boss. Why the difference?

Kiguta had an agenda. She came armed with fake documents and cheating notes prepared for a tendentious interview. Ndii informed her as early as possible that she was using the wrong document. But as you can see she continues to quote from the same document ignoring the correction. It was a most egregious act on her part.

Okwaro starts by showing she had made some preparations. She asks Ndii to introduce the multiple documents - thus avoiding the shame of citing the wrong document.

I still do not understand why Anne continued using the cheating notes to ask questions.

On the answers she was given, I thought after being reminded three times that the NASA manifesto was based on the implementation of the constitution she would learn and adapt. Instead she goes ahead to ask the NIS question on EJK - whether NASA will disband the killer unit or whether they will be allowed to continue killing Kenyans. How else did she expect to be answered?

Ndii again told her the constitution was very clear on the matter. She interjected - which part and was informed the Bill of Rights! Still the woman had locked her brain for knowledge. She demanded to know what NASA would do!

My take is that Kiguta's arrogance and her extreme loyalty to Jubilee influenced her actions to the extent of damaging her. I think she should declare her interests and recuse herself from these interviews.

I wondered if Ndii's constant reference to "conflict of interests" hit her several times because social media has been urging her to recuse herself from these interviews based on her being the wife of Jomo Gecaga - Uhuru Kenyatta's nephew and Personal Assistant.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2017, 05:45:22 PM »

Ann was handed game plan which called upon her to KO a boxer  clearly above her punching weight. It failed miserably and she got angry because of her inability to execute the plan handed over to her.  She is too married to Jubilee to be given such interviews. I am glad Mdvd refused to come and Prof. Ndii came instead.
I think NASA Counter Intelligence has improved tremendously. They were made aware of the plot to humiliate Mudavadi and though they would have failed, it was decided to disorganize them by sending Ndii without notice.

They are dazed! I heard from some who tried to pin all manner of accusations - Pundit style - on Ndii from sexism to harassment to intellectual arrogance.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2017, 05:46:28 PM »
What a bimbo....Baghdad Bob need to go slow on the pipe or the local brew that he is imbibing.  Bure kabisa

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #10 on: July 04, 2017, 05:53:15 PM »
I think Yvonne can absorb a shock and move on.

Notice the point where she wants to talk education and in her preamble she stumbles by suggesting that if more kids enrol it would bring down the quality. :D :D

I don't think she will be repeating that anytime soon. Dr. Ndii corrected her immediately. She tries to brush it aside but he insists. "The idea that some kids would get quality education if others are out of school..." hits her like a thousand wasps but she absorbs it.

So those trying to babysit Anne Kiguta should compare and weigh how Ndii practically wore double soft gloves to Citizen and took them off when he entered KTN
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #11 on: July 04, 2017, 05:58:25 PM »
You NASA guys amaze me! Okwara & Kiguta surely are not suppose to take a crash course on economics before interviewing the geeky Dr Ndii. It was upon Dr Ndoom to dump it down - the next interview Kaguta did will probably be with Gay Pastor or Reptilian proffesor. It is upon the geeky Dr Ndoom to realize TV has it's audience - people who can think on their feet and really dump it down ( see how WSR owns Kiguta she nearly get orgasm everytime WSR goes there).


Dr Ndoom was talking to average kenyans who tuned in to TV - my dad or your mum - and if he cannot explain complex stuff using simple plain English - then he is a big fool. He should continue writing articles nobody can quickly ask questions.

You see this Dr Ndoom bimbo (yeah - Kiguta owned him) rush to the TV and tried to sound intelligent & turned the debate into economic theory class instead of prime TV time to explain NASA manifesto - when Uhuru invited him to face Dr Kamau Thugge (PHD John Hopkins) the PS of finance who is in charge of Eurobond he failed to go there. ..because Dr Thugge surely would have owned him

When Univeristy of Nairobi invited him to face fellow economists on Eurobond/SGR - he was MIAs. Now he wants to lecture Kaguta on economics like she care..she is a TV Journalist.

Now he turns up on two national TV and make an arse of NASA manifesto. People can only conclude that NASA has no manifesto. Dr Ndii has termed NASA a policy document too complicated to be understood by mere mortal...even MaDVD bailed out without caring to inform Dr Ndoom or Citizen...he simply cannot understand what crap Dr Ndoom has come up.

Maybe Dr Ndii should have NASA "policy document" published in Harvard Review and it's can bee critigue and peer- reviewed by PHD geeks - not mere TV Journos.

Kiguta and Citizen were right to end that charade - esp when MaDVD just failed to turn up leaving the station with a geeky fool who didn't realize he needed to dump it down.

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« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2017, 06:18:10 PM »
Actually you get it wrong. People are tired of politicians spinning these things and they needed an expert like Ndii to explain it. You cannot reduce the technical stuff Ndii was talking about  without losing its meaning and a lot of people appreciate that.  I understood it and I believe a lot of Kenyans did.  Ann was capable of understanding it if she listened and kept her mind open but she was too busy thinking of the "gotcha" question.  Regardless of the hostile environment with Ann, Ndii managed to get his point across.  I think Ann was prepared to embarrass mdvd with the corruption questions and was thrown off her game plan when Ndii appeared instead.

You NASA guys amaze me! Okwara & Kiguta surely are not suppose to take a crash course on economics before interviewing the geeky Dr Ndii. It was upon Dr Ndoom to dump it down - the next interview Kaguta did will probably be with Gay Pastor or Reptilian proffesor. It is upon the geeky Dr Ndoom to realize TV has it's audience - people who can think on the feat and really dump it down. He was talking to average kenyans who tune in to TV - my dad or your mum - and if he cannot explain complex stuff using simple plain English - then he is a big fool. He should continue writing articles nobody can quickly ask questions.

You see this Dr Ndoom bimbo (yeah - Kiguta owned him) rush to the TV and tried to sound intelligent & turned the debate into economic theory class instead of prime TV time to explain NASA manifesto - when Uhuru invited him to face Dr Kamau Thugge (PHD John Hopkins) the PS of finance who is in charge of Eurobond he failed to go there. ..because Dr Thugge surely would have owned him

When Univeristy of Nairobi invited him to face fellow economists on Eurobond/SGR - he was MIAs. Now he wants to lecture Kaguta on economics like she care..she is a TV Journalist.

Now he turns up on two national TV and make an arse of NASA manifesto. People can only conclude that NASA has no manifesto. Dr Ndii has termed NASA a policy document too complicated to be understood by mere mortal...even MaDVD bailed out without caring to inform Dr Ndoom or Citizen...he simply cannot understand what crap Dr Ndoom has come up.

Maybe Dr Ndii should have NASA "policy document" published in Harvard Review and it's can bee critigue and peer- reviewed by PHD geeks - not mere TV Journos.

Kiguta and Citizen were right to end that charade - esp when MaDVD just failed to turn up leaving the station with a geeky fool who didn't realize he needed to dump it down.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #13 on: July 04, 2017, 06:22:14 PM »
The let have a debate of equals. Ask Citizen to call Jubilee eminent Economic Profs. I tell you PS of Finance Dr Kamau Thugge is no joke. He has indicated severally he is ready to face Dr Ndoom. Let them go to UON or any ivory tower and debate there. Prime Time TV is better used elsewhere.

Dr Ndoom had the same issues with Okwara. He went with boorish economic theory nobody is interested.

Once you lose election - you can start from here - you lost the 1% who are non-tribal everytime you present Dr Ndoom.

Next we will have PORK & DPORK debate where UhuRuto will clearly own Raila & Kalonzo - and then poor journalists will be blamed.

Actually you get it wrong. People are tired of politicians spinning these things and they needed an expert like Ndii to explain it. You cannot reduce the technical stuff Ndii was talking about  without losing its meaning and a lot of people appreciate that.  I understood it and I believe a lot of Kenyans did.  Ann was capable of understanding it if she listened and kept her mind open but she was too busy thinking of the "gotcha" question. did was not too. Regardless of the hostile environment with Ann, Ndii managed to get his point across.  I think Ann was prepared to embarrass mdvd with the corruption questions and was thrown off her game plan when Ndii appeared instead.

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #14 on: July 04, 2017, 06:28:43 PM »
This interview has generated a lot of interest and is being discussed everywhere albeit with partisan eyes.  Even if there is a debate between Ndii and Thugge, at the end of the debate we will only get a partisan score card by those who already taken sides on these manenos.

The let has a debate of equals. Ask Citizen to call Jubilee eminent Economic Professor. I tell you PS of Finance Kamau Thugge is no joke. He has indicted severally he is ready to face Dr Ndoom. Let them go to UON or any ivorty tower and debate there. Prime Time TV is better used elsewhere.

Dr Ndoom had the same issues with Okwara. He went with boorish economic theory nobody is interested.

Once you lose election - you can start from here - you lost the 1% who are non-tribal everytime you present Dr Ndoom.

Actually you get it wrong. People are tired of politicians spinning these things and they needed an expert like Ndii to explain it. You cannot reduce the technical stuff Ndii was talking about  without losing its meaning and a lot of people appreciate that.  I understood it and I believe a lot of Kenyans did.  Ann was capable of understanding it if she listened and kept her mind open but she was too busy thinking of the "gotcha" question. did was not too. Regardless of the hostile environment with Ann, Ndii managed to get his point across.  I think Ann was prepared to embarrass mdvd with the corruption questions and was thrown off her game plan when Ndii appeared instead.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2017, 06:30:36 PM »
The debate is about Dr Ndoom misbehaving in national TV - not about NASA manifesto. Yeah the guys has some record for attention seeking a.holism - just a day before - he had predicted bloodshed if Uhuru rigged again (like he had rigged ever).

The more I see NASA - the more I and many Jubilee are fired to vote to prevent a disaster from happening.

This interview has generated a lot of interest and is being discussed everywhere albeit with partisan eyes.  Even if there is a debate between Ndii and Thugge, at the end of the debate we will only get a partisan score card by those who already taken sides on these manenos.

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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2017, 06:43:41 PM »
Pundit.  I think you are losing your cool. That is not a good sign for Jubilee.

The debate is about Dr Ndoom misbehaving in national TV - not about NASA manifesto. Yeah the guys has some record for attention seeking a.holism - just a day before - he had predicted bloodshed if Uhuru rigged again (like he had rigged ever).

The more I see NASA - the more I and many Jubilee are fired to vote to prevent a disaster from happening.

This interview has generated a lot of interest and is being discussed everywhere albeit with partisan eyes.  Even if there is a debate between Ndii and Thugge, at the end of the debate we will only get a partisan score card by those who already taken sides on these manenos.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2017, 06:44:46 PM »
Pundit is peddling his usual LIES. Ndii spoke of violence one and half years ago. He reproduced the article in a new tweet pointing out that the issues he raised a year and half ago remain unaddressed as we huttle towards elections!

The jubilee media looking for proof of NASA violence and incitement seized on it. The Raila Kajiado incitement did not catch on when the fools realized we weren't making any effort to discount it as vigorously as we could. So this one looked promising! Until the fools realized that the story is old was ignored when published and The European Union was saying the same.

For me I see nothing wrong. I want more NASA people to publicly state their willingness to resort to violence in event of rigging. We fear no evil
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2017, 06:45:44 PM »
Actually you get it wrong. People are tired of politicians spinning these things and they needed an expert like Ndii to explain it. You cannot reduce the technical stuff Ndii was talking about  without losing its meaning and a lot of people appreciate that.  I understood it and I believe a lot of Kenyans did.  Ann was capable of understanding it if she listened and kept her mind open but she was too busy thinking of the "gotcha" question.  Regardless of the hostile environment with Ann, Ndii managed to get his point across.  I think Ann was prepared to embarrass mdvd with the corruption questions and was thrown off her game plan when Ndii appeared instead.

Indeed.  If he tried to speak in plainer language it would have been insulting to her and the audience.  She looked like someone forced her to be there.
 Hussein Mohamed is a more credible interviewer.
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Re: The David Ndii Interview
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2017, 06:52:01 PM »
Pundit.  I think you are losing your cool. That is not a good sign for Jubilee.
he's slowly replacing Njamlik and some of his crazy handles.

A man like Ndii you reason with him and counter his arguments. Giving him a nickname as if it'll matter to the common riffraff who don't even understand why there should be a manifesto reflects more on you than Ndii. If what he write got more elasticity than your brain accept it!

Anyway like I wrote elsewhere Jubilee campaign is imploding
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