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Urp cabinet appointees failed miserably
« on: June 14, 2017, 10:55:32 AM »
Current maize shortage can be attributed to urp minister failure to implement policy and guide the executive properly. Ruto has shown that he more of a politician than a leader. He has spent 5 years trying to consolidate power at the expense of implementing government agenda.

What has urp side of government done that is worthy noting?
Pundit defend your side

BTW pundit told us that ruto would lock mombasa or coast and make inroads in Western. The president let him do his thing. It has taken Uhuru to go back to coast see if he can rescue votes. Ruto coast Western and nyanza strategy has been a failure. In Nairobi if kidero gets reelected or if sonko fails to get out to vote a huge majority we can blame ruto.


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Re: Urp cabinet appointees failed miserably
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2017, 11:40:19 AM »
There is no urp minister that I am aware of - I guess you subliminal message is that Kalenjin in goK have failed or what?. The has been shortage of maize in nearly the whole of Africa after last year drought. We are doing well compared to Ethiopia were 8m folks are facing starvation. When "urp" minister in 2014 produced a record 41.5m bags of maize - I didn't see you come to praise Ruto?  I am in this maize business personally and I can tell you maize for last one year has been expensive everywhere - UG, TZ, Rwanda and name - thanks to the drought  - that saw production drop to 37M bags -

Under Jubilee maize production has moved from (30-33m) to 40m bags on average - all this thanks to gov fertilizer subsidy programme - drought last year led to 5m drop - nothing Bett could do unless you want him to order god to urinate on us.

When Maize prices shot thro the roof - the minister allowed imports and went ahead to start subsidy programme. The problem that I see is kenya over-reliance on UGALI  & animal feeds (dairy sector) is now big business and cows too are eating lots of maize. In Uganda & many Africa countries maize is primarily for export - because people eat bananas, sweet potatos, cassava, etc.

As for you complain about Uhuru having to campaign for himself - you're being the fool here - Ruto has done his ground work but at end of the day this is Uhuru election - Ruto has made more than 50mps cross over from ODM/Wiper to Jubilee - made sure with Duale that  Gov legislature has gone on unhindered - with this 11th parliament passing a record 170 bills..nearly double what Kibadinga did.

Let Uhuru complain about Ruto failures - which I can't find any. Uhuru has had easy time governing thanks to Ruto hardwork.

Obviously coz Ruto is so effective - he's getting blamed for everything.

Current maize shortage can be attributed to urp minister failure to implement policy and guide the executive properly. Ruto has shown that he more of a politician than a leader. He has spent 5 years trying to consolidate power at the expense of implementing government agenda.

What has urp side of government done that is worthy noting?
Pundit defend your side

BTW pundit told us that ruto would lock mombasa or coast and make inroads in Western. The president let him do his thing. It has taken Uhuru to go back to coast see if he can rescue votes. Ruto coast Western and nyanza strategy has been a failure. In Nairobi if kidero gets reelected or if sonko fails to get out to vote a huge majority we can blame ruto.



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Re: Urp cabinet appointees failed miserably
« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2017, 02:10:52 PM »
I cannot let this go unanswered. Why call me a fool for pointing out that your guy has failed to implement government policy or to mitigate its shortcomings? Maize shortage was never a surprise. We have discussed the genesis and evolution of this shortage in another thread exhaustively.

You need to start behaving like a scientist you are not another guy at the local dukas putting pulling facts out his arse. Anyway:

Show me with Empirical evidence. I will take MOAS as Empirical model as it has proven that it can predict our politics. Show me where URP has succeeded in implementation. Show me how has KETER improved energy sector with some sustainable solution. I know Kenya has borrowed 20 billion shillings for Last mile project proof to me that this is the way to go, that this model by KPL is sustainable and profitable.. dig into NSE certified financials and show me how we KPL has improved its financial standing.. Show me how this increased demand has helped utilize idle capacity thus reducing the price for consumers.

Show me how Ababu and the 50 Mps bought by billions of State funds has improved Uhuru reelection chances. Show me how COAST  offensive plan you been boasting about for 10 years is working. How is Kisii plan by Ruto working? How is upper eastern plan working?

How is his Bomet, Pokot, Baringo regions plan working?
Since nominations everyone in SOUTH RIFT Valley has gone to sleep waiting to go in unopposed but no one is campaigning elsewhere.

Your Model this time around will either stand the test of time or unravel in the first 6 hours of exit polls.

Ruto has lost Uhuru about 200K votes in Central.

Young businessman have had to fight Ruto everywhere because his corruption is displacing them even in small time military contracts.. I have had single mothers on my Facebook turning 180 degrees against jubilee after they have seen what ruto family is doing at DOD. How can a billionaire send his own son openly to go fight single mothers for small contracts.

When you hear Rachel asking for forgiveness she knows that her husband needs it.

Ruto with the same kifua Mbele has made Meru hostile. How does he go in and try to get in the middle of clan battle between Munya and Kiraitu. Even kiraitu had to keep away from Ruto.

Your guy does not inspire his cabinet to work hard to deliver and help him nationally.

If 2013 through 2017 is how URP will rule if ruto gets in power then I would say let us look elsewhere..


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Re: Urp cabinet appointees failed miserably
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2017, 02:27:57 PM »
Let me try bullet points.
1) "URP" minister of Agri -Koskei & Bett - improved production from 30-32m to record 41.5M bags. The current maize crisis is drought induced.The GoK response was to release Maize from NCPB and to block exports of Maize. When that didn't work - they've now allowed imports to come - and due to election - subsidized maize floor - hopefully with South Rift/Western/North Rift farmers harvesting maize - things will improve.

Maybe for a change you can tell us what TNA minister Waiguru who is set to become Governor did to NYS - which was great Jubilee idea that would have put millions of youths into employment under NYS - she killed it.

2) Ruto "buying" 50Mps have ensured GoK legislative agenda has gone on unhindered. If Uhuru want something passed - it get passed. Ruto with help of Duale have passed a record 170 bills. Uhuru has gone to parliament maybe twice but all the time - everything been smooth. Those MPs have also soften ground for Uhuru.

3) The most IMPORTANT FACT that you miss is that UHURU/Kikuyus outside GEMA & GUSII is/are hated. You can say all Non-Kikuyu/Non-GEMA/Non-Gusii votes that Jubilee got in 2013 were thanks to Ruto - you can check where URP got seats - Iteso, Turkana, Maasai, Samburu,Coast, Somalis and name it.

If Ruto was not a super-saleman selling the hardest product in the market (a kikuyu president succeeding another kikuyu) -Uhuru would never fly outside GEMA. Uhuru of course knows that, is grateful for Ruto hardwork, has agreed to share power in a co-presidency and therefore everything as Luo says is MARWA.

If he was to listen to foolish ideas like Kibaki did and imagine his tribe is superior to everyone - thinks would become elephants so fast and we end up in 2007 kind of scenario.

Or if he was foolish like Raila not to appreciate the hard sacrifices Ruto made - then he'd also be crying now. But he is smoothly sailing into another term.

4) Keter job in electrifying this country is so self-evident you're too ignorant to argue about it.

5) Finally the competition for tenders in GoK is vicious. Don't expect any mercy. Obviously Ruto "wins" a lot because he is working hard to win them..by knowing what is happening/which button to press.Or you imagine Ruto works hard & sustain GOK - and then let you win contracts.

6) Competition in politics and Ruto attempt at PORK in 2012 will even be more vicious. Don't expect any mercy there too. Don't expect anybody to come beg for it. Ruto will take. How? You'll just see it.

Actually it already happening - which explain why Munyas are complaining - Ruto is working on Uhuru and his 2012 by ensuring obstacles are eliminated -

After election results - we will know how good Ruto has been on his plan - and how good he did for Uhuru. My bet is very very good.

I cannot let this go unanswered. Why call me a fool for pointing out that your guy has failed to implement government policy or to mitigate its shortcomings? Maize shortage was never a surprise. We have discussed the genesis and evolution of this shortage in another thread exhaustively.

You need to start behaving like a scientist you are not another guy at the local dukas putting pulling facts out his arse. Anyway:

Show me with Empirical evidence. I will take MOAS as Empirical model as it has proven that it can predict our politics. Show me where URP has succeeded in implementation. Show me how has KETER improved energy sector with some sustainable solution. I know Kenya has borrowed 20 billion shillings for Last mile project proof to me that this is the way to go, that this model by KPL is sustainable and profitable.. dig into NSE certified financials and show me how we KPL has improved its financial standing.. Show me how this increased demand has helped utilize idle capacity thus reducing the price for consumers.

Show me how Ababu and the 50 Mps bought by billions of State funds has improved Uhuru reelection chances. Show me how COAST  offensive plan you been boasting about for 10 years is working. How is Kisii plan by Ruto working? How is upper eastern plan working?

How is his Bomet, Pokot, Baringo regions plan working?
Since nominations everyone in SOUTH RIFT Valley has gone to sleep waiting to go in unopposed but no one is campaigning elsewhere.

Your Model this time around will either stand the test of time or unravel in the first 6 hours of exit polls.

Ruto has lost Uhuru about 200K votes in Central.

Young businessman have had to fight Ruto everywhere because his corruption is displacing them even in small time military contracts.. I have had single mothers on my Facebook turning 180 degrees against jubilee after they have seen what ruto family is doing at DOD. How can a billionaire send his own son openly to go fight single mothers for small contracts.

When you hear Rachel asking for forgiveness she knows that her husband needs it.

Ruto with the same kifua Mbele has made Meru hostile. How does he go in and try to get in the middle of clan battle between Munya and Kiraitu. Even kiraitu had to keep away from Ruto.

Your guy does not inspire his cabinet to work hard to deliver and help him nationally.

If 2013 through 2017 is how URP will rule if ruto gets in power then I would say let us look elsewhere..