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Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« on: April 15, 2017, 02:55:08 PM »
I will bring evidence in a few days. I fear by then it would have become public knowledge anyway.
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2017, 04:39:08 PM »
I will bring evidence in a few days. I fear by then it would have become public knowledge anyway.

Have you reflected on the implications of your claim?   Right now he is one of the NASA "principals".    If he is an Uhuru project, then:

(a) Also taking into account what happened in 2013, Raila has extremely poor judgment.    Not a stellar recommendation for a guy selling himself as presidential material.

(b) Uhuru, on the other hand, is a very clever guy, if he has managed to embed his project right at the APEX of NASA. "Where else does he have his people?", one wonders.

You plan to "bring evidence in a few days" (thus making it public knowledge), but you fear that by then it will will have become public knowledge?   Huh?
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2017, 05:42:10 PM »
MoonKi

I understand what you are saying. However there is so little damage Mudavadi can do that frankly I would ignore him if he somehow didn't have some power over Raila.

Out of the 400K votes he scored in his frivolous 2013 campaign, 380K came from Western. He got a fraction of the votes Raila scored in Western and almost lost Vihiga county. CORD got a majority of the MPs in Vihiga as well as MCAs.

Like Uhuru is building Joho by negative reinforcement : Raila is doing to Mudavadi but by opposite means. Had this man been left alone this election season, he would have perished politically. Unfortunately Uhuru has given him money and Raila a chance. He is a busy mouldwarp.

Just because he is planted in NASA does not mean Uhuru is a genius. He will fail. The demos he organized over the last week have already backfired on him.

You took it too literally. Let me rephrase: I believe by the time I get ready to lay the direct evidence his role as a mouldwarp would have long become public knowledge. There is already excessive circumstantial evidence like the placards and demos. But I will be providing specific information such as the registration numbers of the vehicles that delivered the placards and the link to the NIS and Jubilee
 
I will bring evidence in a few days. I fear by then it would have become public knowledge anyway.

Have you reflected on the implications of your claim?   Right now he is one of the NASA "principals".    If he is an Uhuru project, then:

(a) Also taking into account what happened in 2013, Raila has extremely poor judgment.    Not a stellar recommendation for a guy selling himself as presidential material.

(b) Uhuru, on the other hand, is a very clever guy, if he has managed to embed his project right at the APEX of NASA. Where else does he have his people?, one wonders.

Oh, you plan to "bring evidence in a few days" (thus making it public knowledge), but you fear that by then it will will have become public knowledge?   Huh?

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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2017, 05:56:47 PM »
MoonKi

I understand what you are saying. However there is so little damage Mudavadi can do that frankly I would ignore him if he somehow didn't have some power over Raila.

You still aren't helping your man's case.    If Mudavadi is untrustworthy but still has some power over Raila, what does that tell us about the latter?  What other people have unexplained power over Raila?   What would Raila be willing to do for them, if they exercise that power?    Your man is a serious worry.

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Raila is doing to Mudavadi but by opposite means. Had this man been left alone this election season, he would have perished politically.

And why is it important for Raila to save him from perishing politically?

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Just because he is planted in NASA does not mean Uhuru is a genius.

True, but you have to admit he's done very well with his "placements", if your claim is true.

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There is already excessive circumstantial evidence like the placards and demos. But I will be providing specific information such as the registration numbers of the vehicles that delivered the placards and the link to the NIS and Jubilee

You state that he is inconsequential in practical terms.   So why go to all that trouble? What should we do with (or make of) your evidence when you provide it?
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2017, 06:27:29 PM »
I have no idea what it tells you about "The latter".

Raila is free to have his friends. We share a political party. Ordinarily I should not bother who his friends are. However when that friend uses his friendship to ruin the fortunes of the political party then his friend becomes my business.

You are free to conclude any way you wish. In fact I too believe government power with Mudavadi ndaani would be only mildly different from the current Jubilee mess. Therefore going public.

Note that I have previously clearly stated my position about Mudavadi. I predicted that Raila would bring him in: He did. I also stated that Mudavadi having entered would not resist to sell CORD. I am almost vindicated.

Please feel free to award Uhuru any grade you want. Mudavadi is being guided by the NIS. That is their job. They do it regardless of whether the president has no brains and is stoned 24/7

 
MoonKi

I understand what you are saying. However there is so little damage Mudavadi can do that frankly I would ignore him if he somehow didn't have some power over Raila.

You still aren't helping your man's case.    If Mudavadi is untrustworthy but still has some power over Raila, what does that tell us about the latter?  What other people have unexplained power over Raila?   What would Raila be willing to do for them, if they exercise that power?    Your man is a serious worry.

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Raila is doing to Mudavadi but by opposite means. Had this man been left alone this election season, he would have perished politically.

And why is it important for Raila to save him from perishing politically?

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Just because he is planted in NASA does not mean Uhuru is a genius.

True, but you have to admit he's done very well with his "placements", if your claim is true.

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There is already excessive circumstantial evidence like the placards and demos. But I will be providing specific information such as the registration numbers of the vehicles that delivered the placards and the link to the NIS and Jubilee

You state that he is inconsequential in practical terms.   So why go to all that trouble? What should we do with (or make of) your evidence when you provide it?
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2017, 07:08:46 PM »
I think if Raila does not pick up Messi, he causes real damage in Luhyaland outside Bungoma and Busia, as an independent.  That is the whole of Kakamega.  That is more than enough to hand the jubilant the trophy before the race officially begins.  That is the evidence I have been seeing since he was crowned tribal leader a few months ago.  I'd need to see more evidence to believe kamwana is behind all that.  Given that all these politicians are buddies, it would take more than just a show of camaraderie to prove that.

Granted he is not going anywhere by himself, but he makes it hard for others, especially Raila, to go somewhere without him.
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2017, 07:26:23 PM »
If things don't go his way (i.e. a slot more formal than the amorphous "chief minister") it will emerge he has the NASA trademark in the bag... in his mind sending the opposition into a spin with 2012-like tantrums. I see it as a chess game, I don't agree Raila is so naive. He likely wants to squeeze the remaining credibility out of this political slut. The man has ANC as a bargaining chip... with zero MPs. His UDF dissolved into Jubilee :D :D I would vote in Maina Njenga the Mungiki for PORK before this moron.
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2017, 08:53:46 PM »
If things don't go his way (i.e. a slot more formal than the amorphous "chief minister") it will emerge he has the NASA trademark in the bag... in his mind sending the opposition into a spin with 2012-like tantrums. I see it as a chess game, I don't agree Raila is so naive. He likely wants to squeeze the remaining credibility out of this political slut. The man has ANC as a bargaining chip... with zero MPs. His UDF dissolved into Jubilee :D :D I would vote in Maina Njenga the Mungiki for PORK before this moron.

I don't believe that Raila is naive or that Mudavadi is Uhuru's mole; my first response was by way of exploring Omollo's destination on this one.  (I still do not have the slightest clue.)  To my mind,  Terminator explains succinctly why Raila is working with Mudavadi.
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2017, 09:05:13 PM »
MOON Ki, like the Assassin stated once after Mudavadi bested his patience, the man needs a brain transplant.

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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2017, 09:11:25 PM »
It appears the odm propaganda machine is out to force Mudamba out

 :D :D :D

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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2017, 09:34:54 PM »
This is Jubilee's work paid for by NIS. Hence you cannot identify any of the wearers. That is a silly attempt to divide Luhyas and Luos. It is childish.
It appears the odm propaganda machine is out to force Mudamba out

 :D :D :D
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2017, 09:37:20 PM »
I have no idea what it tells you about "The latter".

Raila is free to have his friends. We share a political party. Ordinarily I should not bother who his friends are. However when that friend uses his friendship to ruin the fortunes of the political party then his friend becomes my business.

You are free to conclude any way you wish. In fact I too believe government power with Mudavadi ndaani would be only mildly different from the current Jubilee mess. Therefore going public.

Note that I have previously clearly stated my position about Mudavadi. I predicted that Raila would bring him in: He did. I also stated that Mudavadi having entered would not resist to sell CORD. I am almost vindicated.

Please feel free to award Uhuru any grade you want. Mudavadi is being guided by the NIS. That is their job. They do it regardless of whether the president has no brains and is stoned 24/7

I have no entry in this particular race.   You, on the other hand, have been all over the place, touting what you claimed was one heck of a horse.   And now, you tell us that it is fact a camel, with a most ungainly hump that you don't care for!   I don't know what to make of it all.
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2017, 09:39:48 PM »
MOON Ki, like the Assassin stated once after Mudavadi bested his patience, the man needs a brain transplant.

I can't imagine what he has that appeals to people, but it appears that he always has at least enough "our people" to ensure that he won't be disappearing anytime soon.
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2017, 09:46:51 PM »
I think if Raila does not pick up Messi, he causes real damage in Luhyaland outside Bungoma and Busia, as an independent.  That is the whole of Kakamega.  That is more than enough to hand the jubilant the trophy before the race officially begins.  That is the evidence I have been seeing since he was crowned tribal leader a few months ago.  I'd need to see more evidence to believe kamwana is behind all that.  Given that all these politicians are buddies, it would take more than just a show of camaraderie to prove that.

Granted he is not going anywhere by himself, but he makes it hard for others, especially Raila, to go somewhere without him.
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2017, 09:49:30 PM »
Why are you not seeing this man's activities and connecting the dots?
I don't believe that Raila is naive or that Mudavadi is Uhuru's mole; my first response was by way of exploring Omollo's destination on this one.  (I still do not have the slightest clue.)  To my mind,  Terminator explains succinctly why Raila is working with Mudavadi.
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2017, 09:52:02 PM »
He has been passing information to Jubilee ... just like he did in 2007. He leaked the line-up the organized demos to fight it.
If things don't go his way (i.e. a slot more formal than the amorphous "chief minister") it will emerge he has the NASA trademark in the bag... in his mind sending the opposition into a spin with 2012-like tantrums. I see it as a chess game, I don't agree Raila is so naive. He likely wants to squeeze the remaining credibility out of this political slut. The man has ANC as a bargaining chip... with zero MPs. His UDF dissolved into Jubilee :D :D I would vote in Maina Njenga the Mungiki for PORK before this moron.

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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2017, 09:55:21 PM »
There was no need to bring in Mudavadi. Oparanya had kakamega in the box while Wetangula would have brought in Bungoma. Busia and Vihiga are Raila areas. He only need to pay a visit to Vihiga bring his Maragoli wife and that would seal it.

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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2017, 09:24:48 AM »
There was no need to bring in Mudavadi. Oparanya had kakamega in the box while Wetangula would have brought in Bungoma. Busia and Vihiga are Raila areas. He only need to pay a visit to Vihiga bring his Maragoli wife and that would seal it.
Mudavadi had to come in so that NASA can be created in order to kill CORD and the 2013 Kalonzo MOU

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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2017, 02:12:17 PM »
Kalonzo has no problem with the repeat of the 2013 line-up. It's Jubilee trying to bring it up. Let's see how they will act it out when Ruto comes back in 2022 having promised Lusaka, Mvurya, Mung'aro and Kidero Deputy Presidentship. How will he deal with Kabogo, Munya, Kiunjuri and the Kenyatta Family?
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Re: Musalia Mudavadi is an Uhuru Project
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2017, 07:17:07 PM »
I'd worry more about kalonzo.I think rails will score well in luhya with or without raila. Madvd is fool who can easily fall anything