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Pundit You Cheered Sumgong, Now Explain Doping
« on: April 07, 2017, 01:16:49 PM »
I am without words. This thing is ruining Kenya. What is going on? Where are all these drugs coming from?
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Re: Pundit You Cheered Sumgong, Now Explain Doping
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2017, 01:40:06 PM »
why wouldn't I cheer a kenyan? Yeap this is going to ruin kenya big time - it quite shameful and one can only hope she is made an example of. They should be jailed for at least 1 yr. The amount of money we get from althetics every year is enormous - and we should not let this go down the drain.

This is not only restricted to kenya - but it seem nearly all top althetes are doping - Ethiopians, MoFarah, Americans and name them.

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Re: Pundit You Cheered Sumgong, Now Explain Doping
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2017, 02:36:58 PM »
Culture of corruption.  Huge asterisk on Kenyan champions going forward.  I haven't seen any Ethiopian winners caught, so I assume they are mostly clean.
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Re: Pundit You Cheered Sumgong, Now Explain Doping
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2017, 04:23:18 PM »
Reading some more on this - seem like she was in the doping stable of the italian doctor-son (rosa) group. Any althete who just spring up from obscurity and start winning stuff should be investigated. The clean athletes are who started winning in their juniors..some in primary schools...like say Vivian Cheruiyot...who was athletic prodigy from very early age.

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Re: Pundit You Cheered Sumgong, Now Explain Doping
« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2017, 05:57:41 PM »
Doping started a long-time ago remember ngugi get banned for life

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Re: Pundit You Cheered Sumgong, Now Explain Doping
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2017, 12:30:24 AM »
Reading some more on this - seem like she was in the doping stable of the italian doctor-son (rosa) group. Any althete who just spring up from obscurity and start winning stuff should be investigated. The clean athletes are who started winning in their juniors..some in primary schools...like say Vivian Cheruiyot...who was athletic prodigy from very early age.
One year prison is not enough for a billionaire athlete. There should be a fine based on income plus forfeiture of all earnings while doped. Otherwise when they get a slap on the wrist, may be serve a jail term (as per the new law) and then keep their stash of cash, it serves to encourage others to take the risk. That failure is what has led to the inability to fight corruption among politicians and civil servants. The balance after courts and police and EACC have taken their share is still good enough to finance a seat in parliament, County or an ambassadorship.
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Re: Pundit You Cheered Sumgong, Now Explain Doping
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2017, 03:37:10 AM »
Reading some more on this - seem like she was in the doping stable of the italian doctor-son (rosa) group. Any althete who just spring up from obscurity and start winning stuff should be investigated. The clean athletes are who started winning in their juniors..some in primary schools...like say Vivian Cheruiyot...who was athletic prodigy from very early age.
One year prison is not enough for a billionaire athlete. There should be a fine based on income plus forfeiture of all earnings while doped. Otherwise when they get a slap on the wrist, may be serve a jail term (as per the new law) and then keep their stash of cash, it serves to encourage others to take the risk. That failure is what has led to the inability to fight corruption among politicians and civil servants. The balance after courts and police and EACC have taken their share is still good enough to finance a seat in parliament, County or an ambassadorship.


Currently they do forfeit prize and appearance money as punishment.  I just can't find a handy reference right now.
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Re: Pundit You Cheered Sumgong, Now Explain Doping
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2017, 06:53:27 PM »
Ngugi was never tested positive of doping. His problem was, he was not to be found at the place he had registered during his training. The doping testers could not get hold of him and he was not banned for life, but for 2 years.

Doping started a long-time ago remember ngugi get banned for life