NASA Flag Bearer

[Omollo]

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Let me share some background noises about this issue.

Presidential Candidate: It will be Raila Odinga. That has long been agreed upon. However there are side issues which are affecting the running mate and the cohesion of the group.

Running Mate: It has been agreed that Kalonzo Musyoka becomes the running mate.

Raila is seen as tilting towards supporting Musalia Mudavadi for Presidential Candidate or Running Mate. This is causing "tumbo joto". Kalonzo has accepted the 2013 line-up. However when he is faced with deputizing Mudavadi, that acceptance changes. He cannot accept that.

There is also opposition to Mudavadi in ODM. However most opposition to Mudavadi comes from FORD Kenya.

If one digs the archives, there is to be found a post from me predicting that Raila will somehow bring Mudavadi in to CORD. I also stated that that may be the cause of the split of the alliance and possible defeat at the polls.

[RV Pundit]

We shall see. IEBC has gazetted election date. It only 4 months to election. April, May, June & July. Me think Kalonzo is upto something.MaDVD is ready to settle for anything...he just happy that NASA is his baby

[Globalcitizen12]

Kalonzo left wayback.. It will Mudavadi, Raila and Joho vs Ruto and Uhuru vs Kalonzo.. Kalonzo denies ODM win and helps Uhuru clinch in first round..

In 2022 Kalonzo, Gedion and Mudavadi go for it

[Omollo]

We shall see. IEBC has gazetted election date. It only 4 months to election. April, May, June & July. Me think Kalonzo is upto something.MaDVD is ready to settle for anything...he just happy that NASA is his baby

You are free to think. In fact it is encouraged.

For my part I do not THINK Kalonzo would bolt from NASA to replace Duale or Kindiki (like Energizer and Othorong'ong'o) say. He needs to be an elected MP or change in to a woman, a Disabled Man or lose three decades to become a "Youth".

[RV Pundit]

How did Oburu Odinga do all that - for ODM to put him on top of the nomination list. I think Kalonzo would settle for anything including Cabinet CS - than lose again and then again - and keep waiting.

For my part I do not THINK Kalonzo would bolt from NASA to replace Duale or Kindiki (like Energizer and Othorong'ong'o) say. He needs to be an elected MP or change in to a woman, a Disabled Man or lose three decades to become a "Youth".

[Omollo]

And since Jubilee has placed all its hopes on Kalonzo defecting to work under Ruto, shall we say if that fails you will start packing your billions to prepare for a long life in exile as you dodge corruption charges?

On behalf of Kalonzo I wish to thank you for your advice. He says he has already been Vice President, Acting President and minister for decades. Besides he says that he knows NASA will beat Jubilee and that being so, he would rather be a sweeper in a NASA government than Deputy President in Jubilee. He says he has already publicly stated that and it can be found on youtube. The problem, he adds, is that NASA is not fighting Jubilee. It is fighting NIS, Police, CID, NYS, KRA, KPA, NTSA, Safaricom, All Media Houses, Half of the Evangelical Churches etc. He says they coordinate their propaganda so that their lies are presented as The Truth while clearly stated positions are cast as lies. For example the NIS has told people that Kalonzo will defect. His denials are ignored while various "theories" are accepted as true.

How did Oburu Odinga do all that - for ODM to put him on top of the nomination list. I think Kalonzo would settle for anything including Cabinet CS - than lose again and then again - and keep waiting.

For my part I do not THINK Kalonzo would bolt from NASA to replace Duale or Kindiki (like Energizer and Othorong'ong'o) say. He needs to be an elected MP or change in to a woman, a Disabled Man or lose three decades to become a "Youth".

[RV Pundit]

That is some creative yarn. When Kalonzo organize his wiper party and present his papers for nomination - and then proceed with key allies like Nyenze (Minority leader) to give NASA 7-day ultimatum to make Kalonzo the candidate then it very clear. I agree Kalonzo first option is to be NASA candidate. He second option is to ran alone. His third option to join Jubilee. I don't think Kalonzo is considering being NASA deputy.

The guy who was pulling Kalonzo to NASA...mr Muthama has fallen out with Kalonzo..is now a Raila orphan.

And since Jubilee has placed all its hopes on Kalonzo defecting to work under Ruto, shall we say if that fails you will start packing your billions to prepare for a long life in exile as you dodge corruption charges?

On behalf of Kalonzo I wish to thank you for your advice. He says he has already been Vice President, Acting President and minister for decades. Besides he says that he knows NASA will beat Jubilee and that being so, he would rather be a sweeper in a NASA government than Deputy President in Jubilee. He says he has already publicly stated that and it can be found on youtube. The problem, he adds, is that NASA is not fighting Jubilee. It is fighting NIS, Police, CID, NYS, KRA, KPA, NTSA, Safaricom, All Media Houses, Half of the Evangelical Churches etc. He says they coordinate their propaganda so that their lies are presented as The Truth while clearly stated positions are cast as lies. For example the NIS has told people that Kalonzo will defect. His denials are ignored while various "theories" are accepted as true.

How did Oburu Odinga do all that - for ODM to put him on top of the nomination list. I think Kalonzo would settle for anything including Cabinet CS - than lose again and then again - and keep waiting.

For my part I do not THINK Kalonzo would bolt from NASA to replace Duale or Kindiki (like Energizer and Othorong'ong'o) say. He needs to be an elected MP or change in to a woman, a Disabled Man or lose three decades to become a "Youth".

[Omollo]

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[Omollo]

1. Kalonzo has denied ever contemplating leaving NASA - that is routinely ignored as it ruins the Jubilee narrative
2. His so called "allies" have denied such a plan - ignored
3. The Secretary General of WDP has denied it - ignored
4. Other party officials have denied it - ignored

We are being forced to believe Jubilee conspiracy theories. Mutahi Ngunyi is suddenly credible. Robert Alai (who "exposed" the state house meeting) is now an authority.

Excuse me.

That is some creative yarn. When Kalonzo organize his wiper party and present his papers for nomination - and then proceed with key allies like Nyenze (Minority leader) to give NASA 7-day ultimatum to make Kalonzo the candidate then it very clear. I agree Kalonzo first option is to be NASA candidate. He second option is to ran alone. His third option to join Jubilee. I don't think Kalonzo is considering being NASA deputy.

The guy who was pulling Kalonzo to NASA...mr Muthama has fallen out with Kalonzo..is now a Raila orphan.

[RV Pundit]

I don't see any contradiction. They pitch is for Kalonzo to become NASA candidate. For Raila to honour the MOU. If that fails - I don't see them staying any longer than a minute. NAsA big headache is that. MaDVD & Weta are negotiating from point of weakness. Kalonzo is playing smart.

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[Omollo]

Again those are your views which seek to contradict clearly stated intentions. Musila is saying they will stay in NASA. He is an official and elder of WDP. You say they won't. Now do forgive me if I believe Musila and not you, would you?

Like I said earlier and you now almost agree: All this posturing is negotiation. Kalonzo simply won't accept MaDvD as number one or two. He has agreed to the original 2013 line-up- He is 63 in 2022 he will be 68 (still younger than Raila's current age). He will lose nothing.

What is lost to you is that NASA flagbearer is now so hot because whoever takes it will be President in August. Even the NIS knows that.

I don't see any contradiction. They pitch is for Kalonzo to become NASA candidate. For Raila to honour the MOU. If that fails - I don't see them staying any longer than a minute. NAsA big headache is that. MaDVD & Weta are negotiating from point of weakness. Kalonzo is playing smart.

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[Omollo]

It is however sad that people have been carried away by NIS propaganda. I think Nyenze went too far with the Nyanza utterance. Wetangula and Mudavadi are not from Nyanza.

Anyway Pundit you can watch Mudavadi.

[RV Pundit]

Poor Omollo. I can count the days before you go awol here. If there was no MOU btw Raila and Kalonzo I would think new deal where Kalonzo is deputy is tenable.

Kalonzo joined CORD because Raila said come rain or sunshine...he will step down for Kalonzo..it was one presidential term and then kalonzo..or lose & then Kalonzo. Kalonzo see this as being btw him & Raila - MaDVD & Wetangular are flower girls.

2013 MOU. Let Raila simply honour it. And NASA would be a serious threat to Jubilee. As of now.. it dead on arrival. Jubilee may have to face ODM versus WDP versus NASA and FORD-k - it may even have to face ODM alone

Will Raila do what he needs to do...TOSHA Kalonzo as promised? I mean Kalonzo has been very nice (too nice) - if it was Ruto - ohoo boy !!!!!!!!!!!

[Omollo]

When are you going to publish the Uhuru - Ruto MoU?

Poor Omollo. I can count the days before you go awol here. If there was no MOU btw Raila and Kalonzo I would think new deal where Kalonzo is deputy is tenable.

Kalonzo joined CORD because Raila said come rain or sunshine...he will step down for Kalonzo..it was one presidential term and then kalonzo..or lose & then Kalonzo. Kalonzo see this as being btw him & Raila - MaDVD & Wetangular are flower girls.

2013 MOU. Let Raila simply honour it. And NASA would be a serious threat to Jubilee. As of now.. it dead on arrival. Jubilee may have to face ODM versus WDP versus NASA and FORD-k - it may even have to face ODM alone

Will Raila do what he needs to do...TOSHA Kalonzo as promised? I mean Kalonzo has been very nice (too nice) - if it was Ruto - ohoo boy !!!!!!!!!!!

[RV Pundit]

It been published & implemented. It was deposited at Political Parties. URP & TNA deal. Then now Jubilee (which is part of deal to make Ruto pork).Uhuru has declared severally that he will back Ruto in 2022 and Ruto has shown his commitment to Uhuru. Uhuru is gentleman. We are not complaining. People have forgotten how quarrelsome gov could get...10 yrs with Kibadinga was stress. Now Uhuru and Ruto have shared power..shared ministries, ambassadors, parastals and name it EQUALLY. Uhuru is working hard to make Ruto pork in 2022 and Ruto is working really hard to make Uhuru pork. These two have found a way to work together. I am sure they are many tough decisions and stepping on toes that happen - but when you have two adults - it easy beezy.

Raila tamaa or greed is catching up with him. If he had allowed Wamalwa in 90s - maybe by 2002 - Luo-Luhya alliance would have been stronger - and after that Raila may have become PORK in 2022.

Raila time to say KALONZO TOSHA is now.

Shida ni taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaama. Raila should do the honourably thing. Honour his MOU.

With that Kalonzo would be a real threat and Raila would become Prime Minister or something close to that - it better than running alone. He can ask Kalonzo to ran for one term

When are you going to publish the Uhuru - Ruto MoU?

[Omollo]

I am sorry but I have never seen it. Do you have a copy which clearly states that Uhuru Kenyatta and GEMA will not field a candidate in 2022 but will instead wholly support William Samoei Ruto? How could it be implemented before 2022?

Uhuru has declared severally that he will back Ruto in 2022 : Uhuru has declared very many things which he has never carried out. Somebody used to count them at choo.com. Why would he honour the deal? Of course he can always announce his support but what assurances are there that GEMA will change their 55 year history of never voting for a non GEMA? Is Ruto special? Does he shit egg yolk that smells perfume?

Now Uhuru and Ruto have shared power..How has Ruto shared power with Uhuru? Uhuru Kenyatta is the appointing authority and not Ruto. Under what law does Ruto "share power" with Uhuru? Can you show me any place where the 50:50 nonsense was implemented? In the Cabinet perhaps? Principal Secretaries?

FYI information it is called The Uhuru Kenyatta Administration. Uhuruto like Obamacare is a nickname. For Uhuruto it was used to hoodwink Kalenjins to vote for Uhuru. Obamacare was given to a law to demonize it so the beneficiaries would't have a clue when they would be robbed.
We are not complaining.: Neither does a daughter who elopes with a night running (Jajuok) drunkard who beats her every night and rapes her daily. The shame of admitting what her parents told her would happen did happen prevents her from owning up. You have been shafted badly and you are going for some more. Instead of admitting that you were sodomized by GEMA, you are busy telling us tales. And what happened to your duty to the rest of the country? That has taken rear importance?
 People have forgotten how quarrelsome gov could get...10 yrs with Kibadinga was stress.: Like I said you are hiding your black eyes behind mascara. We know about the fights. I have on occasion revealed some to you here. You recall Kichwa Mbaya hanging on to the Kibaki and Raila are working together. I told him we have been shagged he held on to the nightmare tight. He was the last along with Raila to realize. Now it appears to be your turn. Like an abused priest's wife singing the praises of the husband and not exactly explaining how a goat could scream exactly like her every night, you are trying to deceive us yet we know. Why were your ministers who were cleared of corruption not reinstated?
Uhuru is working hard to make Ruto pork in 2022: I don't know if I should cry for you or just laugh. Uhuru is working hard to contain Ruto. He needs him to behave until after the elections. If they win Ruto goes away in year one. If they lose, he takes the heat for all the misdeeds. But lifting a toe to make Ruto President? You are joking.
 Raila tamaa or greed is catching up with him. If he had allowed Wamalwa in 90s - maybe by 2002 : That is a Jubilee talking point borrowed from Kibaki Tena.

Wamalwa was a Moi project complete with a rental house, car and fuel. He may have reformed later but that was the position. He entered in to alliance with an unwitting Orengo to frustrate Raila in FORD K.

Raila did not steal the party. He did not cause chaos. He left the party. He resigned as the FORD K MP for Kibera and ran on an NDP ticket. FORD K and others fielded candidates but lost. He then grew his party running for the Presidency in 1997 alongside Wamalwa, Kibaki, Moi, Ngilu, etc.

If Raila was greedy why then did he step down for both Kijana and Kibaki?. He would bring more votes to NARC than both Kibaki and Kijana. Why didn't Uhuru leave it for Mudavadi who would have beaten Kibaki and NARC? He was told his candidacy would break KANU he refused to budge. Was that not greed?

I have not even started on Ruto.

It been published & implemented. It was deposited at Political Parties. URP & TNA deal. Then now Jubilee (which is part of deal to make Ruto pork).Uhuru has declared severally that he will back Ruto in 2022 and Ruto has shown his commitment to Uhuru. Uhuru is gentleman. We are not complaining. People have forgotten how quarrelsome gov could get...10 yrs with Kibadinga was stress. Now Uhuru and Ruto have shared power..shared ministries, ambassadors, parastals and name it EQUALLY. Uhuru is working hard to make Ruto pork in 2022 and Ruto is working really hard to make Uhuru pork. These two have found a way to work together. I am sure they are many tough decisions and stepping on toes that happen - but when you have two adults - it easy beezy.

Raila tamaa or greed is catching up with him. If he had allowed Wamalwa in 90s - maybe by 2002 - Luo-Luhya alliance would have been stronger - and after that Raila may have become PORK in 2022.

Raila time to say KALONZO TOSHA is now.

Shida ni taaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaama. Raila should do the honourably thing. Honour his MOU.

With that Kalonzo would be a real threat and Raila would become Prime Minister or something close to that - it better than running alone. He can ask Kalonzo to ran for one term

When are you going to publish the Uhuru - Ruto MoU?

[RV Pundit]

Poor omollo.I see you've gone tangential.time will once again prove.So we suffering in silence that is new one...

[Omollo]

Poor omollo.I see you've gone tangential.time will once again prove.So we suffering in silence that is new one...

You are entitled to your opinion. But I agree with you when you say only time will tell. For now we are drowning in NIS propaganda.

[RV Pundit]

Omollo - the smart thing is for Raila to back Kalonzo this August - it not like they are gonna win - Jubilee will still win with 50% plus one - nothing has really changed alliance wise. Kalonzo rans and loses.NASA remain intact. I think Raila would have real stab at power against Ruto in 2022 - I reckon GEMA would 80% for WSR - so that gives Raila huge opportunity there..

If Raila insist on running - Kalonzo will ran as Wiper candidate and hope he'll force a second round.....that won't happen....so post august..splintered opposition will become rich picking for Ruto who will begin his 2022 election from September.

[Omollo]

Omollo - the smart thing is for Raila to back Kalonzo - it not like they are gonna win. Kalonzo rans and loses.NASA remain intact. I think Raila would have real stab at power against Ruto in 2022 - I think GEMA would 80% for WSR - so that gives Raila huge opportunity there..

One thing I have yet to understand is why Jubilee people are so keen to have NASA make the "smart" choice of Kalonzo or Mudavadi so they (Jubilee fellas) can go home and get a peaceful nights sleep! NASA is getting advise to choose Kalonzo or Mudavadi from the strangest places. I mean when NASA gets "free" advice from Mutahi Ngunyi (who chooses to waive the 12 million shilling bill) it feels really strange.

I read things like "Even we in Central want change but you have to get rid of Laila first to get votes in centuro". What nonsense is that! Who in his right mind would light up his house to get enough heat to boil and egg GEMA promised to deliver?

WSR is going nowhere. He will join the long list of Former Vice Presidents who never became President: Jaramogi Odinga, Joe Murumbi, George Saitoti, Musalia Mudavadi, Michael Kijana Wamalwa, Moody Awori ...

Uhuru Kenyatta will make history as the First One-Term President of Kenya who saddled Kenya with a 4 Trillion debt in 4 years.