Maina Kageni Blasts The Political Class Badly

[Gumzo]

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[RV Pundit]

It's claimed that at the age of 44 our cynicism starts to grow. Maina just turned 43 and therefore his rants is understandable. We should never give in to cynicism and self-defeatist talk like this. The system is still functioning. Our politics is not totally messed.

[Empedocles]

It's claimed that at the age of 44 our cynicism starts to grow. Maina just turned 43 and therefore his rants is understandable. We should never give in to cynicism and self-defeatist talk like this. The system is still functioning. Our politics is not totally messed.

So the millions at risk of starvation agree that our systems are working?

[RV Pundit]

Where does personal responsibility start or stops? You surely cannot expect gov that taxes 18-20% of GDP to do 100% of the job. We've to do the 80% ourselves.Or we can hand over all our money, cattle, goats and camels to GOK and then wait for them to feed us. Gov main job is to provide education, health, roads, security and such services. It also should help those in distress like those starving - but obviously it ability - not least by best intentions only.

So the millions at risk of starvation agree that our systems are working?

[MOON Ki]

Where does personal responsibility start or stops? You surely cannot expect gov that taxes 18-20% of GDP to do 100% of the job. We've to do the 80% ourselves.Or we can hand over all our money, cattle, goats and camels to GOK and then wait for them to feed us. Gov main job is to provide education, health, roads, security and such services. It also should help those in distress like those starving - but obviously it ability - not least by best intentions only.

So the millions at risk of starvation agree that our systems are working?

And these are the ones who went to school.   No wonder Kenyans keep starving and begging for food after year.     

Please take a look the the Asian countries that have most turned their food fortunes in the 20th century ... "green revolution".   Take a look at the role governments played.    You know how American yellow maize has sustained us for years?   Take a look at the government's role in agriculture there.   Europe? Take a look. And so on.   

Since you have a computer and are connected to the internet, approach Google with "role of governments in agriculture"  and upgrade your understanding.

In any case, if the views in GoK's leadership are anything like yours then GoK should at the very least: (a) stop the eating of public money under the pretense of irrigating some 1 million acres to feed Kenyans and (b) at least provide security to the starving in Baringo, Pokot, etc.

Come to think of it, the entire Ministry for Agriculture, the entire Ministry for Water and Irrigation, etc. should all be disbanded and the money now being spent there returned to the citizens, so that they can get on with the "personal responsibility".

[RV Pundit]

We don't have shortage of food - we've surplus food - GOK has to do far more than just growing food - it has to build roads and rails to transport that food to those people. This kind of simplistic thinking just show your shocking ignorance. What should gok do when drought hit Baringo? Make the rain fall or give them relief food like it's been doing!

And these are the ones who went to school.   No wonder Kenyans keep starving and begging for food after year.     

Please take a look the the Asian countries that have most turned their food fortunes in the 20th century ... "green revolution".   Take a look at the role governments played.    You know how American yellow maize has sustained us for years?   Take a look at the government's role in agriculture there.   Europe? Take a look. And so on.   

Since you have a computer and are connected to the internet, approach Google with "role of governments in agriculture"  and upgrade your understanding.

In any case, if the views in GoK's leadership are anything like yours then GoK should at the very least: (a) stop the eating of public money under the pretense of irrigating some 1 million acres to feed Kenyans and (b) at least provide security to the starving in Baringo, Pokot, etc.

Come to think of it, the entire Ministry for Agriculture, the entire Ministry for Water and Irrigation, etc. should all be disbanded and the money now being spent there returned to the citizens, so that they can get on with the "personal responsibility".

[Empedocles]

We don't have shortage of food - we've surplus food - GOK has to do far more than just growing food - it has to build roads and rails to transport that food to those people. This kind of simplistic thinking just show your shocking ignorance. What should gok do when drought hit Baringo? Make the rain fall or give them relief food like it's been doing!

And these are the ones who went to school.   No wonder Kenyans keep starving and begging for food after year.     

Please take a look the the Asian countries that have most turned their food fortunes in the 20th century ... "green revolution".   Take a look at the role governments played.    You know how American yellow maize has sustained us for years?   Take a look at the government's role in agriculture there.   Europe? Take a look. And so on.   

Since you have a computer and are connected to the internet, approach Google with "role of governments in agriculture"  and upgrade your understanding.

In any case, if the views in GoK's leadership are anything like yours then GoK should at the very least: (a) stop the eating of public money under the pretense of irrigating some 1 million acres to feed Kenyans and (b) at least provide security to the starving in Baringo, Pokot, etc.

Come to think of it, the entire Ministry for Agriculture, the entire Ministry for Water and Irrigation, etc. should all be disbanded and the money now being spent there returned to the citizens, so that they can get on with the "personal responsibility".

We don't have a food shortage?

Then why was our president happily dancing in front of relief food donated by a desert country? Something you found embarrassing?

[Gumzo]

We don't have shortage of food - we've surplus food - GOK has to do far more than just growing food - it has to build roads and rails to transport that food to those people. This kind of simplistic thinking just show your shocking ignorance. What should gok do when drought hit Baringo? Make the rain fall or give them relief food like it's been doing!

Pundit,

This is the fuacking  21 century
drought is expected sooner or later and it should be planned for
Food security experts have repeatedly told us drought is not an excuse
for people to die of hunger in the 21 century.

E.g the situation would be much better if the billions spent on 1 million acres irrigation scheam
had not been plundered by GOK officials. We would not be undergoing the humiliation of receiving
food aid from middle east desert countries.

Asking "What should GOK do when drought hit baringo" is more or less like the makubangi
PORK asking "Mnataka nifanye nini ?" about corruption


respectfully;


 

[MOON Ki]

We don't have shortage of food - we've surplus food - GOK has to do far more than just growing food - it has to build roads and rails to transport that food to those people. This kind of simplistic thinking just show your shocking ignorance. What should gok do when drought hit Baringo? Make the rain fall or give them relief food like it's been doing!

Ndugu, it is not me who needs to hear that.   May I suggest alternatives for that message:  (a) the starving people all over the place, some right there in your RV home; (b) the President who recently (and while dancing) sent an "urgent" plea to the "international community" and who was so grateful for donated food that he had it driven right past the starving so that it could be "launched" at State House.

See, right there is the kind of mentality that is finishing Africans.    Stop believing that you are at the mercy of nature or whatever and the only thing you can do pray and beg from others when nature "fails"!!!!    This might come as a surprise to you, but people and governments in the countries that Kenya regularly begs from are not sitting on their hands, praying hard, and waiting for miracles or (like every Kenya government since 1963) handouts.   

What can the government do about droughts?    There is a whole bunch on money being spent on a Ministry for Irrigation.  Irrigation! All those Kenyans going on trips to Israel and Israeli experts being brought to Kenya .... you think it's because the Israelis have figured a way to make it rain? Policies! Planning!   Uncle Sam's USAID has been warning of the present situation since about May last year, as it always does, and the Kenyans do what?  Besides, what exactly does GoK claim to be doing in regard to the money getting eaten in the name of irrigation?  Ministries for Agriculture, Water & Irrigation ... what exactly are they there for?   

And putting aside things like irrigation, what does GoK do every time there is advance warning that things are going badly?    Why does it always have to end in tears and desperation?   It's not as though there are never any warnings.  Elections?   No end of activity.   Eating nyama?   No end of activity.   Laptops for children of whom 25% will be permanently affected, physically and mentally, because of poor nutrition? An "achievement" to be announced from the rooftops.   Silicon Savanah, Konza City ... Powerhouse of Eastern Africa leading Digital Africa.   But always begging for food!!!

Yes, why not keep doing that.   Beg from those who have the good sense to properly run their affair, and hand out like it's been doing.    Should work, right?   After all, it's been "working" for the 50+ years since independence.

One more time, and please try to pay careful attention this time:

Please take a look the the Asian countries that have most turned their food fortunes in the 20th century ... "green revolution".   Take a look at the role governments played.    You know how American yellow maize has sustained us for years?   Take a look at the government's role in agriculture there.   Europe? Take a look. And so on.   

Since you have a computer and are connected to the internet, approach Google with "role of governments in agriculture"  and upgrade your understanding.

Once you are through with that, perhaps you will begin to appreciate of the government is not the growing of food, as you seem to think.   Hint: the ministries mentioned above.   

Now stop playing with it, and go do something useful and educational.

[MOON Ki]

This is the fuacking  21 century
drought is expected sooner or later and it should be planned for

Pundit's Mwafrika believes that nothing can be done about "nature"  ... just pray.   And beg from the "blessed fortunate" to help those "in distress".

The first chapter of Homo Deus comes to mind: comments about how "ancient" people believed hunger/starvation/famine were inevitable because rains had not come on time etc. and so on, and so forth, with with all the other woes of humanity.    Nothing to do except pray harder for the next year.  Or keep begging.

[MOON Ki]

We don't have a food shortage?

Then why was our president happily dancing in front of relief food donated by a desert country? Something you found embarrassing?

If Kenyans have a surplus of food but have heaps of starving people, are desperately begging all over the place, and are getting giddy over small donations, then they are even more f**ked up than at first appears to be the case.   Peddlers of the "surplus" line might want to do a little thinking before hitting the streets.

[Empedocles]

We don't have a food shortage?

Then why was our president happily dancing in front of relief food donated by a desert country? Something you found embarrassing?

If Kenyans have a surplus of food but have heaps of starving people, are desperately begging all over the place, and are getting giddy over small donations, then they are even more f**ked up than at first appears to be the case.   Peddlers of the "surplus" line might want to do a little thinking before hitting the streets.

"Our man" justification syndrome at work. It's curiously fascinating to observe, yet depressing.

[Georgesoros]

Sometime you sound like a USA Republican. They are Ignorant and proud of it...  Think before you open your mouth.
Kenya has serious food shorage, otherwise people in Baringo souldnt be in such dire straits.

We don't have shortage of food - we've surplus food - GOK has to do far more than just growing food - it has to build roads and rails to transport that food to those people. This kind of simplistic thinking just show your shocking ignorance. What should gok do when drought hit Baringo? Make the rain fall or give them relief food like it's been doing!

And these are the ones who went to school.   No wonder Kenyans keep starving and begging for food after year.     

Please take a look the the Asian countries that have most turned their food fortunes in the 20th century ... "green revolution".   Take a look at the role governments played.    You know how American yellow maize has sustained us for years?   Take a look at the government's role in agriculture there.   Europe? Take a look. And so on.   

Since you have a computer and are connected to the internet, approach Google with "role of governments in agriculture"  and upgrade your understanding.

In any case, if the views in GoK's leadership are anything like yours then GoK should at the very least: (a) stop the eating of public money under the pretense of irrigating some 1 million acres to feed Kenyans and (b) at least provide security to the starving in Baringo, Pokot, etc.

Come to think of it, the entire Ministry for Agriculture, the entire Ministry for Water and Irrigation, etc. should all be disbanded and the money now being spent there returned to the citizens, so that they can get on with the "personal responsibility".

[MOON Ki]

Kenya has serious food shorage, otherwise people in Baringo souldnt be in such dire straits.

it has to build roads and rails to transport that food to those people. This kind of simplistic thinking just show your shocking ignorance.

According to your friend, the people in Baringo are starving because the roads and rails aren't  in place to get to them the surplus food that's readily available in Kenya.  So, the solution is to beg for food from far outside Kenya, transport it to State House for a "launch",  and then off to Baringo ... by radio-waves or something?

Perhaps it was inevitable that Kenyans/Africans would eventually come up with their own version of Alice In Wonderland.   But to actually live it?!? 

[MOON Ki]

Back in October 2016, after seeing months of increasingly-alarming warnings from Uncle Sam, on this thread http://www.nipate.org/index.php?topic=3556.0 I wrote

But not to worry.   "Donors" will soon step in; a few grim pictures on their after-dinner television screens, and there will be action.

I did so on the basis that

Year after year.   No change.   A learning-proof system. With or without warning---and people like Uncle Sam have been warning about this one since around May---it's always the same story of last-minute tears and desperation.

RV Pundit responded:

I don't see kenya calling for donors to feed those disaster stricken folks..which to me is an improvement.

even though past history, from which we are apparently immune,  is right there:

"Donors" will soon step in; a few grim pictures on their after-dinner television screens

And now, here we are. 

Kenya's His Excellency just gave a stirring speech in which he further called on "our international friends" to help in these desperate times.  The occasion was the "launch" of this little bundle:





In the land of surplus.

[Omollo]

I don't have the latest which has quite a bit of red in places where we had amber.

[Omollo]

I will drop jargon and be down to earth on this because I notice we have a problem .

The amount of food available in the country minus the consumption determines levels of food security. The Jubilee government after ignoring early warnings delivered in "kizungu mingi" finally accepted that the food available will not meet the needs of the population and therefore sent out an appeal - belatedly.

This famine is all encompassing. Many parts of the country that previously suffered moderate / mild food shortages are this time affected. There are also areas in Kenya with "hidden" famine. Such areas are found in Nyanza, Western and Central. This time they are hard hit.

Kenya has serious food shorage, otherwise people in Baringo souldnt be in such dire straits.

it has to build roads and rails to transport that food to those people. This kind of simplistic thinking just show your shocking ignorance.

According to your friend, the people in Baringo are starving because the roads and rails aren't  in place to get to them the surplus food that's readily available in Kenya.  So, the solution is to beg for food from far outside Kenya, transport it to State House for a "launch",  and then off to Baringo ... by radio-waves or something?

Perhaps it was inevitable that Kenyans/Africans would eventually come up with their own version of Alice In Wonderland.   But to actually live it?!? 

[MOON Ki]

I don't have the latest which has quite a bit of red in places where we had amber.

The latest: It appears that Uncle Sam is working hard to get things like maize into Kenya.    Plan A is to get Ethiopians---yes, Ethiopia!!!!---to sell cheaply to Kenyans ... subsidy from wherever.     Plan B is to get the Mexicans to do it.    If it then comes to the worst, there's Plan C: take some from "more-deserving"  American cows and feed Uhuru's citizens.  But that's a last-resort kind of thing.   Anyways ... in the meantime, let's do the "dab".

[Georgesoros]

Political class???
https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001231704/governors-show-of-might-and-opulence-at-gachagua-burial

[Globalcitizen12]

Leave maina fake outrage alone..This group of Kikuyus is all talk. The oligarchs do not fear this non voting class