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NTV trying to move our cheese
« on: September 14, 2014, 09:31:06 PM »
The idiots are covering mau..from olmekenyu in Narok where my 3 acre site..to my 20 acres in Kiptangich in Nakuru.

Mau is our red line.

They hover around kiptangich and see how we have transformed a useless bamboo forest into a flourishing tea farms..and their kiwaru grows mbigger and mbigger.

Tea farm is as good as forest.

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2014, 09:45:19 PM »
Such nonsense is why Raila is not getting RV votes anytime soon..and William Ruto lifting of the caveat assures Jubilee of political support. This is a very hot potato. About half a million acres of prime virgin land....that now fits about 5 constituencies.

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2014, 09:54:48 PM »
Narok North mps and politicians talking whist they live 200kms away from Mau. Narok South and Narok West knows they will be dead meat if they speak about it.

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2014, 10:00:17 PM »
Maasai want war over a mau..sound like kicks of a dying community...we will send them past kajiado.

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2014, 10:00:30 PM »
Something to shut up Isaac Ruto

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2014, 10:02:45 PM »
Mau is mbig deal....

Eti Purko want war....mpeketoni is nothing...over kipsigis encroachment in Mau.

The only maasai talking are those from far flung areas of narok north...ntimama and the likes. Maybe he never heard of molo,chepakundi and pretty much Nakuru country where mpeketoni goings on.

Governor, deputy governor the arswa lady who comes from olmekenyu, the ntutus (senator and mp) and narok west/south and transmara mps know kipsigis own them.

Narok north should worry with kikuyus encroaching from Narok east...transmara and lower narok west and south is now kipsigis..so is most parts of nakuru.

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2014, 10:09:11 PM »
Eti compensate..where is the money...we talking billions of shs...to compsenate nearly 0.5M hectares of prime land...with lots of development.

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2014, 10:24:07 PM »
I shouted about this mau forest issue until I feel unqualified to talk about it further. Conservation cannot be partial and people cannot be subjected to differential treatment.

Let it be national. Get the Canadians, Belgians and others to move their embassies from Karura forest among other places then start making noise about Mau. There is no reason to target one party and ignore the others. Okonkwo's father made an accurate list of all his debtors and insisted on paying the earlier ones first before the recent. :D
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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2014, 10:28:16 PM »
First start with multinationals who own thousands of acres in tea fams in kericho and bomet counties that they evicted people from....mau forest is a gift..otherwise kipsigis population explusion would have seen massacres in Nakuru and Nyanza....as Kipsigis hunger for land would have led them to invade nakuru, gusii(borabu) and Nyanza(sugar belt). Until we transition esp agro-pastoral people like rv to urbanize life....the thirsty for land will increase.

Mau is pressure valve for Kipsigis overpopulation...you remove it..and prepare to see many places burn.

Gussi, Luos,Luhyas, Gema and other communities....emigrates enmasse to towns...kipsigis emigrates enmasse to mau,nandi,rest of rv and maasai land.

Moi was smart to regularize mau and issue title deed to squattors..otherwise that huge forest would have been burnt down completely....by hordes upon hordes of folks who want more and more land...who wait for dry season to set the forest on fire.

There is forest in bomet..chepalungu forest..during PEV..they basically burnt it down..took all the trees..and that forest is now one huge plain.....they first killed one forest guard..the whole forest guards were withdrawn..then they descended on the forest from all corners and by the time Annan was singing a peace deal..the forest was history.

That i see as fate of most forests in RV.....as population pressure become intense..forests will be cleared.

I shouted about this mau forest issue until I feel unqualified to talk about it further. Conservation cannot be partial and people cannot be subjected to differential treatment.

Let it be national. Get the Canadians, Belgians and others to move their embassies from Karura forest among other places then start making noise about Mau. There is no reason to target one party and ignore the others. Okonkwo's father made an accurate list of all his debtors and insisted on paying the earlier ones first before the recent. :D

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2014, 08:03:37 AM »
He nailed it, every successive government has top beneficiaries of Mau so it will never go. The only thing that will solve this is drastic climatic change that renders the stolen land into Garissa grade shrubland not even fit for grazing
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2014, 12:28:46 PM »
Pundit have a look at Judy Wakhungu protesting her inability to do her job

She is talking of humane eviction
http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/lifestyle/article/2000135040/cs-wakhungu-efforts-to-save-mau-forest-complicated

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NAROK COUNTY: Politics is standing in the way of reclaiming Mau forest, Environment Cabinet Secretary (CS) Judi Wakhungu has said. She said if politics and ethnic considerations are put aside, rehabilitation and conservation of the forest in which more than 25, 000 families are laying claim on would succeed.

"The issue of reclaiming the forest is complicated. Politics is the biggest impediment. If it is put aside, we will succeed in stopping definite depletion and embark on a journey to rehabilitate and conserve it," she said.

Apart from politics and ethnic consideration, Wakhungu said there is need to strike a balance between the livelihoods of settlers in the forest and protecting the environment, adding the long standing unresolved issue of settlements in the one of the largest water catchment area in East Africa is a sore thumb in the country's collective conscience.

Speaking in Narok she added that there was need to bring together all politicians from counties that share the resource and national government on a round table for them to agree on a road map towards removing settlers without disrupting their lives and economic activities.

"If eviction is going to be only way in which the forest is going to be saved, then it should have a human face. Economic considerations and stability of the settlers should be put on the table before the exercise," said Wakhungu.

She was speaking at a joint Kenya and Tanzania news conference at the banks of the Mara River at Sikinder area during the annual Mara River Day celebration. Dr Canisius Kanangire, the Executive Secretary of the East African Community Lake Victoria Basin Commission Secretariat attended.

The commission has been mandated by the two countries to oversee the sustainability of the Mara River Basin. Sixty per cent of the river that both countries depend on the multibillion tourism industry in Masai Mara and Serengeti is on the Kenya side and the rest in Tanzania.

Wakhungu said the Government was ready to compensate thousands of Mau settlers, adding that if a deal is struck towards the direction, funds that have already been set aside would be availed.

The CS said the ongoing destruction is yet affected the diplomatic relationship between Kenya and Tanzania that depend on river flow for tourism and its people livelihoods, adding both governments are formulating a ten year Integrated Water Management Policy for sustainability of the river.

Kanangire said the policy document whose drafting started in 2006 was being finalized, adding that it should be operational after the signing before the end of the year. Deputy President William Ruto in on record saying that the Government is planning to end settlements within Mau in two years by compensating settlers.

Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/lifestyle/article/2000135040/cs-wakhungu-efforts-to-save-mau-forest-complicated

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2014, 01:20:55 PM »
Moi had good ideas on saving Mau. This is now too hot a political potato to be resolved easily.

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Re: NTV trying to move our cheese
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2014, 04:21:29 PM »
Moi had good ideas on saving Mau. This is now too hot a political potato to be resolved easily.
My problem is why Mau Forest and not the 30 other forests that have been cleaned from the face of the earth?
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