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Offline Empedocles

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Re: CORD in Migori - Re-awakening the Base
« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2016, 05:03:07 PM »
There is a slight but crucial difference. Raila operates with / within the party. Whether he learned it from the father or Moi or The King of Morocco I do not know. The other people you mentioned need political parties to climb to a position and then abandon them.

ODM is a movement with devoted supporters cutting across tribe. Watch Ahmednasir tell Koinange the same yesterday. As a party we have certain values that glue the membership together. Raila as President will know that any violation of these core values and he will be alone.

Maybe.

I have nothing against the supporters of ODM. Like I mentioned, I was one of the most passionate supporters and almost had ODM tattooed on my chest.

My problem is whether the leadership of ODM truly believes in the values they keep churning out.

There's this exchange from the old series The West Wing which I've never forgotten:

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Toby Ziegler: These guys [the Belorussians] have to walk out of here on Friday with a set of laws to take back home to Minsk.

Lawrence Lessig: Not a set of laws, a sense of the rule of law.

Toby Ziegler: You're saying the document is irrelevant?

Lawrence Lessig: No - I'm saying the document is just the beginning. A constitutional democracy succeeds only if the constitution reflects democratic values already alive in the citizenry.

I know just by looking at how each of the parties operate that the ODM leadership, just as with Jubilee's, don't have a sense of the rule of law.

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Re: CORD in Migori - Re-awakening the Base
« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2016, 05:16:58 PM »
I have faced criticism for sharing photos from these rallies. I do not plan to stop any time soon. I was booted out of choo.com when some people over there could not reconcile the propaganda image of a dead CORD and the overwhelming turnout in these rallies. The messenger had to go.

I think here it is more like, "we are not used to this"

Please continue posting your photos.   Nobody here has criticized you for that.    But questions have been suggested for you and your CORD friends.   Sensible questions, such as "how many of those showing up for th entertainment are registered to vote?", "are CORD leaders working at hard at voter registration as they are at dancing on the stage?", etc.
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Re: CORD in Migori - Re-awakening the Base
« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2016, 05:20:28 PM »
To MoonKi

My instant survey indicates 99% of these people will vote cord. The 1% represents government officials and others on Eurobond.

You and the 99% have skipped a small but important step: registering to vote.

By the way, is anyone at all concerned that all those people apparently have nothing better to do in the middle of a weekday?   
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Re: CORD in Migori - Re-awakening the Base
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2016, 06:13:30 PM »
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« Reply #36 on: July 08, 2016, 10:34:45 PM »
Simanova, I didn't follow the rally and have absolutely no information on what the great leaders preached.

Anything at all about the IEBC reforms, like when they expect (want?) them to start or what the way forward is?

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« Reply #37 on: July 09, 2016, 07:56:56 AM »
The question is why Kenyan media ignored the rally. There is not a single word about it in The Nation.
Simanova, I didn't follow the rally and have absolutely no information on what the great leaders preached.

Anything at all about the IEBC reforms, like when they expect (want?) them to start or what the way forward is?


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Re: CORD in Migori - Re-awakening the Base
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2016, 10:51:11 AM »
The question is why Kenyan media ignored the rally. There is not a single word about it in The Nation.

Nation did carry the story here: Raila fights to retain western Kenya backingThe IEBC must go home. It is no longer whether they will go but when. We need a level playing field before 2017,