Amina Mohamed At The Hague

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

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To Push the African way.  You cannot bribe, intimidate, kill, and otherwise eliminate witnesses and not reap the benefits.

http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/asp-adopts-kenyas-agenda-rule-68-icc-witness-procurement-audit

The ASP has adopted Kenya's agenda on the application of Rule 68 to the DP's ICC case and the audit of the recanted witness identification and recruitment process.

Kenya had asked the Assembly of States Parties to address the use of recanted witness statements in revisiting discussions on Rule 68, that were conducted at its meeting two years ago.

Kenya does not want the rule, which allows use of the evidence, applied in DP William Ruto and journalist Joshua Sang's cases, in line with an agreement reached during the ASP's 2013 session.

The ICC said victim participation is an important aspect of court proceedings and that "justice must be meaningful for those to whom it matters most.

- See more at: http://www.the-star.co.ke/news/asp-adopts-kenyas-agenda-rule-68-icc-witness-procurement-audit#sthash.DjXHSy9s.dpuf

[Globalcitizen12]

Rachel omamo is there too for defence is this war or a legal issue and an individual challenge http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Ruto-case-on-agenda-as-ICC-talks-kick-off/-/1950946/2962218/-/format/xhtml/-/dqyuscz/-/index.html

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Rachel omamo is there too for defence is this war or a legal issue and an individual challenge http://mobile.nation.co.ke/news/Ruto-case-on-agenda-as-ICC-talks-kick-off/-/1950946/2962218/-/format/xhtml/-/dqyuscz/-/index.html

If Magufuli is to learn of this he will wail like a widow bereaved.

I find the current push against Rule 68 interesting.  For it to be meaningful in the hustler's case, Oga Chile Eboe Osuji seems to suggest that Kenya should also push for the repeal of article 69(3), if I understand a reading of his partly concurring opinion correctly.

Article 69(3)

The parties may submit evidence relevant to the case, in accordance with article 64. The Court shall have the authority to request the submission of all evidence that it considers necessary for the determination of the truth.

Removing this would prevent the court from requesting and considering any evidence relevant to the case and then end it with immediate effect.  Perhaps the wording could be changed in such a way that it only applies to the hustler's case, but not any others in the future.

Here is his opinion.

https://www.icc-cpi.int/iccdocs/doc/doc2038657.pdf

https://www.icc-cpi.int/nr/rdonlyres/ea9aeff7-5752-4f84-be94-0a655eb30e16/0/rome_statute_english.pdf

[MOON Ki]

The lady is performing at the ASP session right now.   She boldly stated that dealing with the ICC is the biggest national challenge that Kenya faces and has had to deal with.   Really.   

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

The lady is performing at the ASP session right now.   She boldly stated that dealing with the ICC is the biggest national challenge that Kenya faces and has had to deal with.   Really.   

I believe she is right.  It challenges the national culture of impunity in a way no institution back in Kenya was ever willing to or capable of.  In this culture, crimes attributed to certain individuals are expected to be ventilated on if at all, perhaps in the media, political platforms or judicial charades, and then people move on.

ICC, was largely expected to begin this process 99 years in the future.  The hustler would be in his 130s or 140s.  That was the script.  Despite the weaknesses of the case, the mere possibility that they can make a decision beyond the influence of the Kenyan mafia state is unsettling to a culture that has been in force uninterrupted for more than 50 years.

[MOON Ki]

Omamo also weighed in with some mumbo-jumbo about "serious jeopardy".    Anyways, it looks like they are taking quite a beating.   The Swiss representative has bluntly stated that 2 years ago, the ASP was extremely flexible to Kenyan/AU noises but that there are limits.   That views seems to have widespread support, and the issue will now be one of finding a diplomatic way to tell Kenya GoK to piss off.

[Georgesoros]

Agreed. The political class are supposed to be immune to any form of prosecution.

The lady is performing at the ASP session right now.   She boldly stated that dealing with the ICC is the biggest national challenge that Kenya faces and has had to deal with.   Really.   

I believe she is right.  It challenges the national culture of impunity in a way no institution back in Kenya was ever willing to or capable of.  In this culture, crimes attributed to certain individuals are expected to be ventilated on if at all, perhaps in the media, political platforms or judicial charades, and then people move on.

ICC, was largely expected to begin this process 99 years in the future.  The hustler would be in his 130s or 140s.  That was the script.  Despite the weaknesses of the case, the mere possibility that they can make a decision beyond the influence of the Kenyan mafia state is unsettling to a culture that has been in force uninterrupted for more than 50 years.

[Globalcitizen12]

shameful to stand before the world and proclaim that your ability to kill, displace and maim with impunity is your greatest challenge.. what ruto and his foolish president is saying to the world is Let us be able to kill, mutilate, maim and displace at will for the sake of peace.. May the gods of Kenya punish these stupid women and their masters

[chiethakuodha]

REALLY shameful.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Omamo also weighed in with some mumbo-jumbo about "serious jeopardy".    Anyways, it looks like they are taking quite a beating.   The Swiss representative has bluntly stated that 2 years ago, the ASP was extremely flexible to Kenyan/AU noises but that there are limits.   That views seems to have widespread support, and the issue will now be one of finding a diplomatic way to tell Kenya GoK to piss off.

I heard Kenya can now count on the support of Uganda, one of the 34 African members, on its rule 68 agenda.  Museveni is just the type to see the benefit of discarding all testimony by disappeared or recanting witnesses .  He also has to have one of the more colorful relationships with ICC.

[MOON Ki]

I heard Kenya can now count on the support of Uganda, one of the 34 African members, on its rule 68 agenda.  Museveni is just the type to see the benefit of discarding all testimony by disappeared or recanting witnesses .  He also has to have one of the more colorful relationships with ICC.

Yes, it looks like "African mass walkout", predicted in the event of failure, will involve a rather small mass; 28 of the African delegates didn't even bother to say a single word. The GoK performance was too embarrassing, even by the questionable continental standards.

Here are some of the twitter views of a well-known lawyer  who eats on the Jubilee side:

The arguments made by the kenyan delegation at the Hague are career ending in any political system worth its salt..nauseating.

 
If you know Western govts are against changing the rule on retracted evidence why waste time & resource?..then u go to Hague with ruffians!

Kenya's strategy at the Hague is crazy...you don't have the numbers, your strategy is poor, you make silly third world argument...laughable

 
The silliness of Kenya's argument at the Hague is astounding.Canada,Brtian & Switzerland..& our other donors simply laughed at Kenya's case!

[bryan275]

shameful to stand before the world and proclaim that your ability to kill, displace and maim with impunity is your greatest challenge.. what ruto and his foolish president is saying to the world is Let us be able to kill, mutilate, maim and displace at will for the sake of peace.. May the gods of Kenya punish these stupid women and their masters

It is a great challenge for the klepticrats where impunity has reigned supreme.  It's a shocking experience to them that anyone is asking them to account for their crimes against the peasants.

I hope and pray for the revival of the other Kenyan case one day. 

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Amina Mohamed thinks Africa has a shortfall when it comes to mass atrocities.  Because Europe enjoyed impunity for all those years.  If I understand her correctly, Africa could use a few more years of impunity.  There is room to kill a few more millions.  That would be consistent with the fact that she has not uttered a word about the victims.

I guess if we were supposed to weigh who was committed more atrocities, then we would still have a big shortfall.

https://thehaguetrials.co.ke/article/icc-not-kangaroo-court-says-kenyas-top-diplomat-amina-mohamed