Internet of Things ??

[veritas]

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What is this? I befriended a Cisco chap at a conference I went to recently. Cool guy we hit it off. He sent me an email about this...

What is it ?

http://www.cisco.com/web/solutions/trends/iot/overview.html

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

It's basically devices being interconnected not just your computer or phone.  Anything can be a web client or a web server.  It holds lots of promise and potential.  Huge.

[veritas]

So you think it could be a worthwhile thing to partner up with Cisco on the "internet of things" ? I think I have to think about this. I'm not liking Cisco phones. I just like their staff.

Windy, I think you should move to Sydney and help me run my little company. Having recently chat to my business accountant and solicitor who's office my golly is next to Tony Abbott's constituent office. Apparently they've been office neighbors for decades and I only noticed today. There's just so much to do I'm feeling overwhelmed. Have a think about it.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

So you think it could be a worthwhile thing to partner up with Cisco on the "internet of things" ? I think I have to think about this. I'm not liking Cisco phones. I just like their staff.

Windy, I think you should move to Sydney and help me run my little company. Having recently chat to my business accountant and solicitor who's office my golly is next to Tony Abbott's constituent office. Apparently they've been office neighbors for decades and I only noticed today. There's just so much to do I'm feeling overwhelmed. Have a think about it.

No.  A lot of these guys will sell you shit you don't need.  They will make you pay for a fad called cloud computing and IoT.

I think the availability of the technology is huge.  But it does not mean everybody needs it.  It's of questionable use if one can benefit from an interconnected toothbrush.

Your offer is tempting, but my hands are full.  You should keep it standing for later consideration    
 

[MOON Ki]

It's of questionable use if one can benefit from an interconnected toothbrush.

You lack imagination.   I can easily think of a microphone in the toothbrush that I could  use to "jump start" my first meeting of the day while still brushing my teeth.   Or a little camera that could take photos of my teeth and send them, in "real time", to my dentist.  Or ...

[veritas]

So you think it could be a worthwhile thing to partner up with Cisco on the "internet of things" ? I think I have to think about this. I'm not liking Cisco phones. I just like their staff.

Windy, I think you should move to Sydney and help me run my little company. Having recently chat to my business accountant and solicitor who's office my golly is next to Tony Abbott's constituent office. Apparently they've been office neighbors for decades and I only noticed today. There's just so much to do I'm feeling overwhelmed. Have a think about it.

No.  A lot of these guys will sell you shit you don't need.  They will make you pay for a fad called cloud computing and IoT.

I think the availability of the technology is huge.  But it does not mean everybody needs it.  It's of questionable use if one can benefit from an interconnected toothbrush.

Your offer is tempting, but my hands are full.  You should keep it standing for later consideration    
 

Thanks. Perhaps we can all return to Kenya someday and do something that would change the networking world there.

Cloud computing doesn't make sense to me. Isn't it just storage?

I don't have to pay for IoT. They train us to I think probably just certified to fix IoT stuff for Cisco locally. I want to focus on maritime stuff though. When I read through the past contracts we've done, it's the maritime stuff which attracted big money. You've got to be extremely skilled and experienced to do this kind of work and my dad used to be one of the best. He designed the electrical, security, data, telephone, communication systems on the maritime ports in Sydney, Christmas Island, oil rigs. He lectured in colleges on occasion about it. the company name means "wide sea" I obviously can't fill his shoes but it's the direction I want to go. I haven't figured out where IoT fits into this.

[veritas]

It's of questionable use if one can benefit from an interconnected toothbrush.

You lack imagination.   I can easily think of a microphone in the toothbrush that I could  use to "jump start" my first meeting of the day while still brushing my teeth.   Or a little camera that could take photos of my teeth and send them, in "real time", to my dentist.  Or ...

MK, interesting.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

It's of questionable use if one can benefit from an interconnected toothbrush.

You lack imagination.   I can easily think of a microphone in the toothbrush that I could  use to "jump start" my first meeting of the day while still brushing my teeth.   Or a little camera that could take photos of my teeth and send them, in "real time", to my dentist.  Or ...

That's pretty interesting and useful actually.  Probably not the best example for the point I was making.

[veritas]

The toothbrush would have to be waterproof which sort of sits... with my maritime direction.

[MOON Ki]

That's pretty interesting and useful actually.  Probably not the best example for the point I was making.

But wait, there's more!   Think of one of those "lab-on-a-chip" things.   Imagine a tiny one on the toothbrush.   But instead of just basic "lab functions", this one determines what your mouth feels like eating today.    A signal is sent to your fridge to start defrosting the steak at 3PM.   Another signal goes to the oven to get on "pre-heat" at 5PM.   Etc.

[Empedocles]

According to Bill Gates, the IoT will basically be the content base for artificial intelligence, something which he, Stephen Hawkings, Steve Wozniak (Apple co-founder) and Elon Musk among others are sorta worried about.

[MOON Ki]

That's pretty interesting and useful actually.  Probably not the best example for the point I was making.

Here's one that I think has even greater potential: I have noticed that on mornings that I wake up with cravings for certain foods, there is also a difference in the "consistency" of my saliva.   Imagine if a sensor in the toothbrush could detect the appropriate "levels"   and immediately send a signal to the fridge, to start defrosting a chunk of beef at 3PM, and another signal to the oven, to start "pre-heating" at 5PM.   I walk in at 6PM and immediately toss the beef into the oven ... or the sensor could also alert my "houseboy" robot to do that.

This Internet Of Things definitely could change a lot of things.

[veritas]

According to Bill Gates, the IoT will basically be the content base for artificial intelligence, something which he, Stephen Hawkings, Steve Wozniak (Apple co-founder) and Elon Musk among others are sorta worried about.

Interesting.

[veritas]

That's pretty interesting and useful actually.  Probably not the best example for the point I was making.

Here's one that I think has even greater potential: I have noticed that on mornings that I wake up with cravings for certain foods, there is also a difference in the "consistency" of my saliva.   Imagine if a sensor in the toothbrush could detect the appropriate "levels"   and immediately send a signal to the fridge, to start defrosting a chunk of beef at 3PM, and another signal to the oven, to start "pre-heating" at 5PM.   I walk in at 6PM and immediately toss the beef into the oven ... or the sensor could also alert my "houseboy" robot to do that.

This Internet Of Things definitely could change a lot of things.

If they have the technology to detect tooth cravings, they probably have the means to inhibit hunger cravings. I can't imagine proprietary entities serving society's convenience unless it yields high avenue. A chip toothbrush may create a situation where people get tired of being monitored by their toothbrush, or it's too expensive to maintain. Not enough demand for it.

I noticed we aspire for technology to be buoyant like the spirit world. If the next existence is a spiritual dimension, I keep wondering where technology fits into this. Would it be possible to transport souls into another dimension of time and space? Would it be possible to imprint cognitive loopbacks to one's soul so they're stuck in a moment? Can the concept of a soul be even justified?

[RV Pundit]

Interesting.

[veritas]

I need an AI boyfie. What's the point of having a sticky smelly sentient boyfie, when I can settle with an intelligent clean partner who can connect his self to the world wide web in a flash. He would know so much. He's be able to tickle me right, read my mood perfectly, make me breakfast the way I like it.

[bittertruth]

Existing networks wont be able to accommodate the strain of IoT.
It may need the next generation of cellular communications like 5G platform. But the big challenge is data - how do we analyse these vast amount of data?
Data should not be considered just as an outcome of IoT projects, it should be at the heart of the strategy .
This may involve consideration of platform which is designed for large-scale, data intensive deployments - perhaps Apache Hadoop.
Hadoop can take a query over a dataset, divide it, and run it in parallel over multiple nodes.

[veritas]

I was thinking DNA. Our DNA is a source code from evolution and contains terra terra bits of information.

Could it be possible with nano-technology to imprint DNA mechanisms into a system? Let's say an organic system like the sand at the bottom of the ocean transforms into cat cable functionality. Copper wires could be reduced into fine sand nano particles perhaps. Most of the internet runs on seabeds. I recall dad had sea cabling projects requiring boats.



That way the network could be integrated to organic structures when you think about it.

Data need not be stored in hardware. It could be stored in us. We could be the carriers of data. With nano-technology we could have tools to make data so tiny like the size of a mitochondria- squish all that data into a cell.

I think we've grossly misunderstood data storage. We assume coding mechanisms store and disseminate data when perhaps there's just as much temporal stuff (like lags and movement frequencies) as spatial functionalities- i.e. the way our cognition and perception intrinsically automate. I noticed we retrieve memories and data at certain points in time for a purpose we need not always realise at the time for what purpose. How does our brain/soul/existence do that? Are these filters embedded in some higher temporal purpose? If so, how do we attenuate that onto networks?

Somehow I subscribe to open-source chaos like the way a free market behaves. So long as there's enough insurance or buffers that won't let data crash, we should leave data up there in the cloud and open and trust it'll connect to temporal stuff that would benefit society as a whole long term. I think the focus should be on buffers.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Existing networks wont be able to accommodate the strain of IoT.
It may need the next generation of cellular communications like 5G platform. But the big challenge is data - how do we analyse these vast amount of data?
Data should not be considered just as an outcome of IoT projects, it should be at the heart of the strategy .
This may involve consideration of platform which is designed for large-scale, data intensive deployments - perhaps Apache Hadoop.
Hadoop can take a query over a dataset, divide it, and run it in parallel over multiple nodes.

MapReduce works well for google and that kind of thing.  But is all data important for any domain?  I feel that a lot of the insights that folks think big data can provide are easily apparent with good old fashioned intuition.

But I like it for weather.  It should be huge in improving forecasts from historical weather data-points which is as large a useful data-set as one can think of.  Couple that with a smart AC and I am thinking it should lead to plenty of energy savings.

[Bella]

That's pretty interesting and useful actually.  Probably not the best example for the point I was making.

But wait, there's more!   Think of one of those "lab-on-a-chip" things.   Imagine a tiny one on the toothbrush.   But instead of just basic "lab functions", this one determines what your mouth feels like eating today.    A signal is sent to your fridge to start defrosting the steak at 3PM.   Another signal goes to the oven to get on "pre-heat" at 5PM.   Etc.

This detecting food cravings on your behalf sounds like science fiction to me,  honestly.

 I liked your first idea about the toothbrush cum microphone,  but if you need to do your early meeting at home,  wouldn't your phone/tab/computer do just fine? I don't understand why/how you could do so while actually brushing your teeth unless the meeting did not involve talking.