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Offline veritas

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On ethics: my student responses
« on: September 10, 2014, 03:33:32 PM »
My 7 year olds..

Offline Georgesoros

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Re: On ethics: my student responses
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2014, 05:15:05 PM »
What grade is this?
This is college level material.

Offline RV Pundit

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Re: On ethics: my student responses
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2014, 05:22:53 PM »
That is too deep; am suprised they teach ethics to small kids;

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Re: On ethics: my student responses
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2014, 05:29:55 PM »
In USA, its a required course before graduation. I think they also teach it in Grades 11 & 12 now. Thats why when I saw this, I remembered college. A grade 2 kid wont understand this Verita stuff. Its too deep.

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Re: On ethics: my student responses
« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2014, 06:18:57 PM »
In Kenya, we are taught values in school in CRE/IRE/HRE and the class rules on not fighting etc etc. That's ethics.

Personally, I think its kinda silly to teach adults ethics. You can make rules like the Advocates have and impose real consequences that really pinch for the behavior you truly don't want, but I think an adult by University is already formed in terms of his character and personality. When he leaves school, he will conduct his professional life according to his genuine character, no matter what marks he got in the professional ethics class.

Offline Georgesoros

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Re: On ethics: my student responses
« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2014, 06:27:35 PM »
Ethics is an ever changing field, so it should be taught at every level in life. When you were young and you visited your neighbor, you soon recognized that they practiced a different ethical standard than you, so you either adapted or swore never to go back again. When you move from Nyalgunga to Mombasa, you adapt to different values and systems in place.
When you move from working for Jim's delivery service to working for govt. you meet a different ethical standards in place. So you should be taught ethics at every level.

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Re: On ethics: my student responses
« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2014, 06:30:50 PM »
At my time social ethics education was taught at high school level. Only class where you could get As without ever opening any book, just common sense.

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Re: On ethics: my student responses
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2014, 06:36:21 PM »
At my time social ethics education was taught at high school level. Only class where you could get As without ever opening any book, just common sense.
Me too. We did it in school but it wasn't taken for KCSE, but to me, it was just stuff that everyone knew already. Like I said, an adult who genuinely doesn't know the basics of ethics is one who has been messed up already. He doesn't need a class, he needs counselling. The school where I am at decidedly does not teach its students ethics. They say the student will adapt to the ethics of the firm they end up working for, not those taught at uni. An adult who needs to learn special rules just needs the book (Act/rules) to look through once and then refer to from time to time. If he's responsible, that's all you need. I think ethics try to teach responsibility but you cant teach an adult to be responsible if he doesn't want.

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Re: On ethics: my student responses
« Reply #8 on: September 10, 2014, 08:10:04 PM »
These little ones understand this material better than adults. Adults don't get it. I studied this in philosophy, yes, but they should be teaching this to little ones. Toddlers today are incredibly smart.