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Rotich ridiculous tax proposal
« on: June 17, 2015, 11:12:16 AM »
200k excise duty for each car more than 3 yrs old.

http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Secret-taxes-in-Rotich-Sh2-1trn-budget-revealed/-/539550/2754410/-/item/0/-/ate9o6z/-/index.html

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Re: Rotich ridiculous tax proposal
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2015, 11:36:45 AM »
This happens when personal interests get in to the budget. The 8 year rule was Mwiraria trying to help his son's business. He refused to go lower to help New Car peddlers. It looks like Rotich has given in to the same companies that Mwiraria resisted.

Some proposals are plain sick and beyond logic. Right now most countries are doing everything within their powers to stop people smoking. Thus anything that reduces the consumption of cigarettes and causes less harm is welcome. Son why is it now more expensive to drop a cigarette in Kenya?

Tanzania long ago allowed people who buy vehicles for business (Commercial is limiting) to escape heavy taxes. At some point it was duty free. Go and see how well that has worked. They have a clean fleet and the owners got lifted out of poverty. It happened at a time when Gideon Moi could import hundreds of new trucks, pay no duty and still influence the budget to make it harder for competition to import used vehicles.

About the 8 year rule: I think the whole idea of dumping as a reason for denial of entry is wrong. However now that he has opted to make money from old cars, should he not then lift the 8 year rule so he can make more money from the poor?
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Re: Rotich ridiculous tax proposal
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2015, 05:55:20 PM »
These people need to cut spending. You cant tax your way into prosperity. Companies will just look for other ways to avoid it. They move to a cheaper place. How can he tax WATER? Thats really desperate.

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Re: Rotich ridiculous tax proposal
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2015, 06:00:19 PM »
Let see if parliament will just vote. Constitution gives parliament more power than Rotich. But Mps are more interested in hand outs.
This happens when personal interests get in to the budget. The 8 year rule was Mwiraria trying to help his son's business. He refused to go lower to help New Car peddlers. It looks like Rotich has given in to the same companies that Mwiraria resisted.

Some proposals are plain sick and beyond logic. Right now most countries are doing everything within their powers to stop people smoking. Thus anything that reduces the consumption of cigarettes and causes less harm is welcome. Son why is it now more expensive to drop a cigarette in Kenya?

Tanzania long ago allowed people who buy vehicles for business (Commercial is limiting) to escape heavy taxes. At some point it was duty free. Go and see how well that has worked. They have a clean fleet and the owners got lifted out of poverty. It happened at a time when Gideon Moi could import hundreds of new trucks, pay no duty and still influence the budget to make it harder for competition to import used vehicles.

About the 8 year rule: I think the whole idea of dumping as a reason for denial of entry is wrong. However now that he has opted to make money from old cars, should he not then lift the 8 year rule so he can make more money from the poor?

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Re: Rotich ridiculous tax proposal
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2015, 09:31:17 PM »
For starters he had no business going to "Read" a Budget. That role belongs to Duale and the relevant committee.

Unfortunately MPs never know what they vote for.
Let see if parliament will just vote. Constitution gives parliament more power than Rotich. But Mps are more interested in hand outs.
This happens when personal interests get in to the budget. The 8 year rule was Mwiraria trying to help his son's business. He refused to go lower to help New Car peddlers. It looks like Rotich has given in to the same companies that Mwiraria resisted.

Some proposals are plain sick and beyond logic. Right now most countries are doing everything within their powers to stop people smoking. Thus anything that reduces the consumption of cigarettes and causes less harm is welcome. Son why is it now more expensive to drop a cigarette in Kenya?

Tanzania long ago allowed people who buy vehicles for business (Commercial is limiting) to escape heavy taxes. At some point it was duty free. Go and see how well that has worked. They have a clean fleet and the owners got lifted out of poverty. It happened at a time when Gideon Moi could import hundreds of new trucks, pay no duty and still influence the budget to make it harder for competition to import used vehicles.

About the 8 year rule: I think the whole idea of dumping as a reason for denial of entry is wrong. However now that he has opted to make money from old cars, should he not then lift the 8 year rule so he can make more money from the poor?
... [the ICC case] will be tried in Europe, where due procedure and expertise prevail.; ... Second-guessing Ocampo and fantasizing ..has obviously become a national pastime.- NattyDread

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Re: Rotich ridiculous tax proposal
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 09:25:13 AM »
Wooi! Even water is being taxed? Is this why we don't have safe drinking water in our taps so that the higher taxes are collected on the bottled ones that we have to buy nowadays?

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Re: Rotich ridiculous tax proposal
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Re: Rotich ridiculous tax proposal
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2015, 02:02:23 PM »
I have been on this issue from the day I was prevented from importing my Vintage car on the grounds that it was "over 8 years old".

The policy is misguided and cannot possibly cure the problem it claims to be after. It is the levels of emissions that should guide taxation. If one can fix an 60 year old car to meet the emissions for that car's age, then there should be no punitive taxes.
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