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IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« on: June 03, 2015, 07:58:40 AM »
Seem to have a solid CV.
http://www.nation.co.ke/news/President-Kenyatta-nominates-CBK-governor/-/1056/2738096/-/dj3xc7/-/index.html

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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2015, 11:12:02 AM »
No amount of that trumps his tribe. They will still fault this choice
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2015, 01:42:48 PM »
No amount of that trumps his tribe. They will still fault this choice
That's because there are 42 tribes.  Is this kind of behavior the reason Kenya nearly went South Sudan way until bazungu saved us?
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2015, 01:47:08 PM »
No amount of that trumps his tribe. They will still fault this choice
That's because there are 42 tribes.  Is this kind of behavior the reason Kenya nearly went South Sudan way until bazungu saved us?
That's because no Okoyu appointment can possibly be on merit
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2015, 02:04:30 PM »
No amount of that trumps his tribe. They will still fault this choice
That's because there are 42 tribes.  Is this kind of behavior the reason Kenya nearly went South Sudan way until bazungu saved us?
That's because no Okoyu appointment can possibly be on merit
Is there a difference between qualifications and merit?

In non-specialist jobs, which most of these public appointments are, tribe should be a major factor.  The wealth needs to be spread around.
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2015, 02:15:28 PM »
Right. Vooke is mistaken in his view of what merit is. Diversity is a merit. It should be awarded some points. For instance if Turkana candidate scores B and Kikuyu candidate score A on "technical" qualification...the turkana might pip him if we award an extra two points for being a turkana...and maybe an extra two for being a turkana woman.
Is there a difference between qualifications and merit?

In non-specialist jobs, which most of these public appointments are, tribe should be a major factor.  The wealth needs to be spread around.

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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2015, 02:32:02 PM »
No amount of that trumps his tribe. They will still fault this choice
That's because there are 42 tribes.  Is this kind of behavior the reason Kenya nearly went South Sudan way until bazungu saved us?
That's because no Okoyu appointment can possibly be on merit
Is there a difference between qualifications and merit?

In non-specialist jobs, which most of these public appointments are, tribe should be a major factor.  The wealth needs to be spread around.
I know the script, there are too many Okoyus in GOK so any Okoyu appointment is mega failure to salute our diversity
2 Timothy 2:4  No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #7 on: June 03, 2015, 02:35:49 PM »
Right. Vooke is mistaken in his view of what merit is. Diversity is a merit. It should be awarded some points. For instance if Turkana candidate scores B and Kikuyu candidate score A on "technical" qualification...the turkana might pip him if we award an extra two points for being a turkana...and maybe an extra two for being a turkana woman.
I have no problem with diversity, but flashing the 'diversity' card every time an Okoyu is appointed is a tad boring
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #8 on: June 03, 2015, 03:02:20 PM »
You honestly think kikuyu representation in gov and public services is proportionate. I don't think so.It something Uhuru has to be conscious every time he makes a new appointment.
I have no problem with diversity, but flashing the 'diversity' card every time an Okoyu is appointed is a tad boring

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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2015, 03:03:07 PM »
I have no problem with diversity, but flashing the 'diversity' card every time an Okoyu is appointed is a tad boring

When would it be a good time to flash it?
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2015, 03:09:06 PM »
Right. Vooke is mistaken in his view of what merit is. Diversity is a merit. It should be awarded some points. For instance if Turkana candidate scores B and Kikuyu candidate score A on "technical" qualification...the turkana might pip him if we award an extra two points for being a turkana...and maybe an extra two for being a turkana woman.
Is there a difference between qualifications and merit?

In non-specialist jobs, which most of these public appointments are, tribe should be a major factor.  The wealth needs to be spread around.
He now says it's boring if he does not say what that has got to do with the subject matter.

I believe/hope that by the time these people are shortlisted for the interview, they are qualified.  In other words, all shortlisted candidates are qualified for the job. 

At that point, the decision on who to pick is cosmetic.  An opportunity where great leaders use to push for something good. 

He could use criteria like you mention to nominate someone from a marginalized group. 

Though without seeing the shortlist, it may just be pointless if people from other groups stopped even bothering to apply.
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2015, 03:11:38 PM »
That is problem right now with Jubilee. Unlike in Kibakidinga regime; I see more and more self selection with kalenjin and Kikuyu mostly applying...as seen in this CBK shortlist.

Though without seeing the shortlist, it may just be pointless if people from other groups stopped even bothering to apply.

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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2015, 04:51:25 PM »
For instance if Turkana candidate scores B and Kikuyu candidate score A on "technical" qualification...the turkana might pip him if we award an extra two points for being a turkana...and maybe an extra two for being a turkana woman.

That would be a sensible and logical way to increase social cohesion and patriotism in the country.   The problem is that it is way too easy in the African context.   The continental way is to always assume that "our people" will be in power forever and to grab (money, jobs, land, natural resources, ...) like there's no tomorrow, until the day comes when the rest conclude that the only way to get their share is by force. 
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2015, 04:56:59 PM »
Though without seeing the shortlist, it may just be pointless if people from other groups stopped even bothering to apply.

Longlist.   The shortlist is the result of some pruning that itself could be used to "find" that qualified applicants are limited to just one or two groups.   
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2015, 05:51:32 PM »
Though without seeing the shortlist, it may just be pointless if people from other groups stopped even bothering to apply.

Longlist.   The shortlist is the result of some pruning that itself could be used to "find" that qualified applicants are limited to just one or two groups.   
Yep.  Longlist.  I know quite a few people with equal if not better qualifications that would easily make the long list.  And almost certainly fail to make the "cut" at the short list stage.
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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #15 on: June 03, 2015, 11:36:06 PM »
Diversify diversity.

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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #16 on: June 04, 2015, 09:25:48 AM »
The man is opus-dei. That earns him more marks from me.

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Re: IMF advisor Dr Njoroge to become CBK governor
« Reply #17 on: June 04, 2015, 12:46:53 PM »
looks like Kimaiyo to Boinett transition...it had to go to Murang'a where Ndung'u hailed from ....... let's see how he handles crazy fed dollar print out feeding global inflation
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