Al Shabaab strikes Garissa University

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Scores reportedly dead
Many hostages

Blasts & gunfire reported as masked gunmen attack Garrisa University in Kenya
http://rt.com/news/246121-kenya-attack-garissa-university/

[Omollo]

GoK dismissed a recent warning and advisory on the attack

[vooke]

Omorlo,
I have seen circulars for UoN and I think USIU over the same. Looks like Garissa ignored it

GoK dismissed a recent warning and advisory on the attack

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

The killers posed as fellow worshippers.  Are they killing fellow Muslims or were they at a church? 

It's not obvious, to me, how building a wall on the Somalia border is a solution to this menace. 

[Omollo]

I have seen the circulars. That is perhaps what caused the lapse. Some people imagine that if the attack plans are known then the attack wont happen.

Omorlo,
I have seen circulars for UoN and I think USIU over the same. Looks like Garissa ignored it

GoK dismissed a recent warning and advisory on the attack

[vooke]

I saw this Kenian lady,she is with Foreign Affairs saying she don't think the government is going to do it.

The killers posed as fellow worshippers.  Are they killing fellow Muslims or were they at a church? 

It's not obvious, to me, how building a wall on the Somalia border is a solution to this menace. 

[GeeMail]

From FB

Subject: TERROR THREAT
From: mailadmin@uonbi.ac.ke
Date: Thu, March 26, 2015 8:28 am
To: all@uonbi.ac.ke
Cc: all@students.uonbi.ac.ke
TERROR THREAT ALERT
Intelligence reports indicate that the Al Shabaab terror group is planning retaliatory attacks on vital installations in Nairobi including a major University. The information is already being processed by the relevant government agencies with an objective of putting necessary measures in place to foil any such attempts.
You are hereby advised to continue being vigilant and diligent while in the University and other crowded places. Be conscious of any suspicious persons and/or luggage as you go about your daily schedules.
Please report any security concerns by calling the University control room on any of the following numbers 0717035268, 0750982391, 0731453263, 020-2319186, 020-2319172, 020-318262 or the nearest security office.
We reaffirm our commitment to always ensure a safe and secure environment for the University community and property.
XYZ
CHIEF SECURITY OFFICER
UNIVERSITY OF NAIROBI

[vooke]

Death toll is 147 and counting

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

Death toll is 147 and counting

These niggas are messing around with Kenyans. 

I think Kenya either pulls out of Somalia, or declares open hunting season in Somalia and the borderlands.  You cannot have one foot in, one foot out.

Because of corruption and disorganization, I say they get out of Somalia.

[MOON Ki]

What a tragedy.   It is astonishing that towns in the former NEP do not have better security.   KDF should abandon the charcoal business, pull back into Kenya, and focus on securing ex-NEP.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

What a tragedy.   It is astonishing that towns in the former NEP do not have better security.   KDF should abandon the charcoal business, pull back into Kenya, and focus on securing ex-NEP.

Yep.  I am almost certain the casualties will go up.  They accounted for about 500 hundred students out of a population of a 1,000 or thereabouts.

Very scant reports on the local TV channels; the mental state of the germanwings co-pilot still dominating the headlines here.

[vooke]

Big score for alshabaab; they strike in Mandera where police are tens of miles away, they strike in Garissa with KDF and Police right there.

In Westgate we was told of 'hundreds', turned ouut to be 69. I don't see it going over 147

[RV Pundit]

Move out of Somali. Hand over AMISON Kenya sector to some other peace keeping nation. Japan and India are aggressively looking for such opportunities. No way Alshabab will cross oceans to attack India or Japan.

[Omollo]

Pundit

More people are moving closer to the view we expressed several years ago. I know you opposed the Somalia incursion as I did. We said then that the cheers will turn to tears and got hot water in our faces from "patriotic" Kenyans singing Operation Linda Nchi. Uhuru has failed.

In history if you inherit a war and refuse to end it, it kills you politically - sometimes physically.

Move out of Somali. Hand over AMISON Kenya sector to some other peace keeping nation. Japan and India are aggressively looking for such opportunities. No way Alshabab will cross oceans to attack India or Japan.

[Kim Jong-Un's Pajama Pants]

I just saw a picture.  It's too much to share.  Bodies in a hall of residence.  More than 50 for sure.  Looks like they were going door to door and shooting people. 

If these attackers were four as alleged.  I am thinking if those kids had some military training, they could have fought back, even without weapons.  Perhaps it's time to introduce compulsory military boot camp for college students; not many Al-Shabab types in those ranks.

[MOON Ki]

By the way, has anybody seen Uhuru?   He seems to have gone AWOL since he made the police-training order, early on in the situation.   Since then, Nkaissery has made a statement and offered condolences over the death of 147, and many others (including foreigners) have made the expected type of statement.   But I have yet to read of anything from Uhuru or see a video of him making a statement.   Not even in the Kenyan papers.

And just a few days ago:

'President Uhuru Kenyatta has criticised the UK for issuing travel advisories to its citizens, saying they were based on Kenya is safehttp://www.nation.co.ke/news/Uhuru-tells-off-UK-for-fresh-travel-warning/-/1056/2673468/-/1mepp4z/-/index.html

[Omollo]

4 people? That is not like Al Shabaab. They follow the Chechen style where a large group seizes an institution. They achieve their objective and split in to two. The larger group leaves to take back tapes and other propaganda material. A small group of hard core suicide bombers stay behind to provide cover for the larger group to escape. I believe they were done by dawn and simply shot to divert attention.

I just saw a picture.  It's too much to share.  Bodies in a hall of residence.  More than 50 for sure.  Looks like they were going door to door and shooting people. 

If these attackers were four as alleged.  I am thinking if those kids had some military training, they could have fought back, even without weapons.  Perhaps it's time to introduce compulsory military boot camp for college students; not many Al-Shabab types in those ranks.

[Georgesoros]

following the Chinese model. Deny the environment is ok while people can't even breathe. Security can take hrs even in NRB to come to rescue. Theres not even a 911 system, in a country that is spending trilions on rails that many can't use. Counties are spending money on big cars and iPads but not security.

[vooke]

This is interesting, survivors , two of them insist that the attackers wore balaclavas but they spoke FLUENT Swahili, meaning they are coasterners. Will paste a clip

[Omollo]

This is interesting, survivors , two of them insist that the attackers wore balaclavas but they spoke FLUENT Swahili, meaning they are coasterners. Will paste a clip

vooke

that is the reason it has always been stupid to profile Somalis. European countries have learnt to look at these movements broadly. They see all races trekking down to join them. Al Shabaab has membership from all over East Africa.

Note that anybody from TZ can speak Swahili as well as a Kenyan Mpwani. I also recalled Comoros and Mauritius