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Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« on: October 05, 2025, 02:15:35 AM »
Maybe only Kalonzo and Gachagua will stick to end on their own.
The others are Kenyatta poodles.
Eugene, Natembeya, Matiangi, Uhuru, Gideon moi.


I dont know Uhuru-Raila gameplan but look likely they will do 30-30-30 with Ruto than spend money trying to beat him.

10% will be for madvd-weta.

Uhuru has 3 guys in gov - and is acting innocent. Raila has 7 guys.

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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2025, 07:47:34 AM »
When people realise Uhuru hates Gachagua worse than Ruto ndio watapona roho, Criminal Uhuru is also a very selfish brutal person wont allow a nyeri gikuyu to rise this is typical Kiambu vs Nyeri rift. Kenyattas want to maintain status quo of them ruling Kikuyus
By 2026 end all Merus will have seen this devious scheme and about 70 percent solid will be in Rutos court
Kenyatta will force a referendum for matinagi to get PM iyo tu.

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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2025, 06:13:46 PM »
He despise him - he was his PA. He cannot talk with him on same table as equals. He rather make a deal. The way I see Uhuru will likely cut a deal with Kindiki - if Matiangi/Raila doesnt work out
When people realise Uhuru hates Gachagua worse than Ruto ndio watapona roho, Criminal Uhuru is also a very selfish brutal person wont allow a nyeri gikuyu to rise this is typical Kiambu vs Nyeri rift. Kenyattas want to maintain status quo of them ruling Kikuyus
By 2026 end all Merus will have seen this devious scheme and about 70 percent solid will be in Rutos court
Kenyatta will force a referendum for matinagi to get PM iyo tu.

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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2025, 06:39:00 PM »
Reminds one of Ruto vs Moi. Literal hustler vs dynasty. Mlima ushaenda.

What exactly can Uhuru offer Kindiki that Ruto hasn't?

The big card here is Matiang'i. If he seizes Gusii directly he can cut deals for himself. Uhuru has nothing substantive to offer him. But he seems to be a bimbo worse than MaDVD so not holding my breath.

He despise him - he was his PA. He cannot talk with him on same table as equals. He rather make a deal. The way I see Uhuru will likely cut a deal with Kindiki - if Matiangi/Raila doesnt work out
When people realise Uhuru hates Gachagua worse than Ruto ndio watapona roho, Criminal Uhuru is also a very selfish brutal person wont allow a nyeri gikuyu to rise this is typical Kiambu vs Nyeri rift. Kenyattas want to maintain status quo of them ruling Kikuyus
By 2026 end all Merus will have seen this devious scheme and about 70 percent solid will be in Rutos court
Kenyatta will force a referendum for matinagi to get PM iyo tu.
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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2025, 08:36:08 PM »
Uhuru has no pull in mt Kenya, nothing, I am telling you this for free and especially if he cuts any deals with Kasongo. The only key here is opposition scattering all over the place in the second round. In the first round, there will be no winner so I am assuming they will all run, Kasongo, Matiangi, Kalonzo, Gachagua and even ODM may decide to run a rogue candidate( it’s the most divided party right now) the second round is where this is won, whoever plays chess there wins, it maybe Kasongo, if the opposition agrees on someone like Kalonzo or Matiangi and they stay together, Kasongo goes directly Home.

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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2025, 10:13:55 PM »
Reminds one of Ruto vs Moi. Literal hustler vs dynasty. Mlima ushaenda.

What exactly can Uhuru offer Kindiki that Ruto hasn't?

The big card here is Matiang'i. If he seizes Gusii directly he can cut deals for himself. Uhuru has nothing substantive to offer him. But he seems to be a bimbo worse than MaDVD so not holding my breath.

He despise him - he was his PA. He cannot talk with him on same table as equals. He rather make a deal. The way I see Uhuru will likely cut a deal with Kindiki - if Matiangi/Raila doesnt work out
When people realise Uhuru hates Gachagua worse than Ruto ndio watapona roho, Criminal Uhuru is also a very selfish brutal person wont allow a nyeri gikuyu to rise this is typical Kiambu vs Nyeri rift. Kenyattas want to maintain status quo of them ruling Kikuyus
By 2026 end all Merus will have seen this devious scheme and about 70 percent solid will be in Rutos court
Kenyatta will force a referendum for matinagi to get PM iyo tu.
MLIMA was powerful when Merus, Tharakas, Embus, and the usual 10% rebels were part of the 'mountain' politically. Now it is no longer Mlima but the fractures of Nyeri, Kiambu, Murang'a, and Nyandarua. Nakuru, the Kikuyu constituency, and parts of Laikipia and Mt Kenya East, where Kithure hails from, have detached. Kina Lee Kinyanjui, Kihika, Kabogo, Wahomes, Waigurus, Ngiricis, Ichungwah and big MT heavy hitters will be campaigning aggressively for one William Samoei, with the intention of subtly returning power to Mountain through Kindiki. That strategy will deflate Gachagua very painfully. Watch the space. Defeating Ruto politically is like cutting your own neck with halal knife. You will bleed, shit on your pants, and die in the process! Uhuru and Raila learnt the hard way last time, and they may learn harder again this time. Gachagua is already going bonkers, and the election is two years away. In one year millions of Kenyans will be moving to affordable houses, Talanta International Stadium will be buzzing with activities, and women will be occupying the clean 400 markets coming up in a high-profile show. At least 1-2 million rebel Kenyans will be saying, 'Who is this Samoe Ruto again?'
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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2025, 12:21:58 AM »
Hubris, the Mt Kenya house is indivisible, it’s joined by blood. Kasongo’s only chance is a divided opposition otherwise even all his greatest supporters like Sudi and Farouk have become humble like sheep lately, the opposition of Kalonzo, Matiangi, Gachagua, Natembeya etc is a scary juggernaut, if were Kasongo, I would really be scared of 2027.

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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #7 on: October 06, 2025, 01:59:45 AM »
Hubris, the Mt Kenya house is indivisible, it’s joined by blood. Kasongo’s only chance is a divided opposition otherwise even all his greatest supporters like Sudi and Farouk have become humble like sheep lately, the opposition of Kalonzo, Matiangi, Gachagua, Natembeya etc is a scary juggernaut, if were Kasongo, I would really be scared of 2027.
You are the one in wilderness and deep in hubris. Ruto has done the unimaginable in 3 years. Follow your fellow villagemate showcasing projects going on in 47 counties, and how Ruto turned Kenya into a construction site with one million employees building everything from markets, shools, Houses, Roads, stadiums etc. The worst fear of MT Kenya Mafia that ate the country dry for 20 years with little to show. If We had Ruto for those 20 years, we'd be very far. 3 years of his work and beats 20 years of both Kibaki and Uhuru. Politically, If the mountain were united, then it would unite under their own, which is Kindiki, not someone impeached and broke. MT Kenya East are showing all the signs that they are deeply invested in Kenya Kwanza. Wait for the Mbeere elections to show you!
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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #8 on: October 06, 2025, 02:54:34 AM »
Ruto lives on hubris and so are his supporters. Given the chance, he failed miserably and turned Kenya into Singapoor, no vision but lies and mediocrity. The only people who believes Kasongo 100% are Kales and even that is doubtful. This projects that you are talking about are mediocre and benefit a few of his supporters and cronies. Do you know how many corporations have laid off or completely shut down? That affects millennials and GenZ, the majority voters in Kenya. You think GenZ want to go back to hawk stuff in village markets? The opposition will have to make very serious mistakes not to remove Kasongo, Kenya is at 2002 anger level.

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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #9 on: October 06, 2025, 03:44:52 AM »
Precisely. Uhuru has no say in Mt. Kenya. Toothless dog. That dog cannot hunt. Riggy G is the real deal. Not only is he able to connect with Kenyans easily but he is also quick witted to get himself out of any Jam. Riggy G is what Raila ever wanted to be. A rebel with a cause. People president. Raila is done unfortunately his political career ends with betrayal of Kenyans. Especially Gen Z. Sad. 2027 is shaping out nicely. 6 more months of high voltage campaign will weed out more jokers like Matiangi.
Uhuru has no pull in mt Kenya, nothing, I am telling you this for free and especially if he cuts any deals with Kasongo. The only key here is opposition scattering all over the place in the second round. In the first round, there will be no winner so I am assuming they will all run, Kasongo, Matiangi, Kalonzo, Gachagua and even ODM may decide to run a rogue candidate( it’s the most divided party right now) the second round is where this is won, whoever plays chess there wins, it maybe Kasongo, if the opposition agrees on someone like Kalonzo or Matiangi and they stay together, Kasongo goes directly Home.

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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2025, 08:16:11 AM »
MLIMA was powerful when Merus, Tharakas, Embus, and the usual 10% rebels were part of the 'mountain' politically. Now it is no longer Mlima but the fractures of Nyeri, Kiambu, Murang'a, and Nyandarua. Nakuru, the Kikuyu constituency, and parts of Laikipia and Mt Kenya East, where Kithure hails from, have detached. Kina Lee Kinyanjui, Kihika, Kabogo, Wahomes, Waigurus, Ngiricis, Ichungwah and big MT heavy hitters will be campaigning aggressively for one William Samoei, with the intention of subtly returning power to Mountain through Kindiki. That strategy will deflate Gachagua very painfully. Watch the space. Defeating Ruto politically is like cutting your own neck with halal knife. You will bleed, shit on your pants, and die in the process! Uhuru and Raila learnt the hard way last time, and they may learn harder again this time. Gachagua is already going bonkers, and the election is two years away. In one year millions of Kenyans will be moving to affordable houses, Talanta International Stadium will be buzzing with activities, and women will be occupying the clean 400 markets coming up in a high-profile show. At least 1-2 million rebel Kenyans will be saying, 'Who is this Samoe Ruto again?'

Meru gani sasa? RiggyG is Meru. That is the big problem Ruto faces - pushing a Tharaka on the Meru and Embu. Haiwezi.

The rebels are actually in Kiambu who feel entitled to power. Now they are saying the Uhuru they evicted is still their prince. :) But even the almighty Kimani Ichung'wa is being kicked by a DCP newbie.
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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #11 on: October 06, 2025, 09:11:25 AM »
RVHH nailed the mountain is divided - because they really dont have candidate. RiggyG will endorse Kalonzo. Uhuru will back Matiangi. Muranga crew? Meru - Tharaka crew will likely
go to  KIndiki if he retain DPORK. Diaspora seem not ready to be used as war front with kalenjin.

So all in all - Murima have no strong gameplan - because they dont have viable candidate. RiggyG is un-electable even if allowed to run. He aint going to get one vote outside Murima

In such circumstances except people to have different schools of thought
1) If Kindiki is retained - many will see him as reprsenting the only realistic path back to power.
2)  Gachagua will go likely with Kalonzo - hoping to win Nairobi governor - and then have Mps & governors to play leverage.
3)  Uhuru will not give up - Jubilee - esp Kiambu & Nakuru & Nyandarua - will play their games - Matiangi if he doesnt fly like it appear-  they may back Kindiki
4)  Muranga will listen to Kangata and his kiharu boy Ndidi.
5)  Diaspora in RV will not play hostile politics esp those near the hotspots - so Gachagua politics wont be welcome there.

All in all - Kindiki MUST WIN MBEERE NORTH - and then use it as spring board.


MLIMA was powerful when Merus, Tharakas, Embus, and the usual 10% rebels were part of the 'mountain' politically. Now it is no longer Mlima but the fractures of Nyeri, Kiambu, Murang'a, and Nyandarua. Nakuru, the Kikuyu constituency, and parts of Laikipia and Mt Kenya East, where Kithure hails from, have detached. Kina Lee Kinyanjui, Kihika, Kabogo, Wahomes, Waigurus, Ngiricis, Ichungwah and big MT heavy hitters will be campaigning aggressively for one William Samoei, with the intention of subtly returning power to Mountain through Kindiki. That strategy will deflate Gachagua very painfully. Watch the space. Defeating Ruto politically is like cutting your own neck with halal knife. You will bleed, shit on your pants, and die in the process! Uhuru and Raila learnt the hard way last time, and they may learn harder again this time. Gachagua is already going bonkers, and the election is two years away. In one year millions of Kenyans will be moving to affordable houses, Talanta International Stadium will be buzzing with activities, and women will be occupying the clean 400 markets coming up in a high-profile show. At least 1-2 million rebel Kenyans will be saying, 'Who is this Samoe Ruto again?'

Meru gani sasa? RiggyG is Meru. That is the big problem Ruto faces - pushing a Tharaka on the Meru and Embu. Haiwezi.

The rebels are actually in Kiambu who feel entitled to power. Now they are saying the Uhuru they evicted is still their prince. :) But even the almighty Kimani Ichung'wa is being kicked by a DCP newbie.

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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #12 on: October 06, 2025, 12:36:42 PM »
I agree RiggyG will have a real problem if UDA takes Mbeere. He stood DCP down for this.

The rest of Mlima is divided or has no candidate... how when he is running all over. He has really beaten your propaganda to the punch. 41 vs 1 died with makuzo.

I think Matiang'i is important because he fits well into G7 strategy. Gusii is an open field. Running on GenZ and Mlima is a joke. If he has a brain he might hit the ground now and ensure UPA nails few MCA. As a ploy to divide Mlima he is DOA.

The other delusional windbag is Maraga.

RVHH nailed the mountain is divided - because they really dont have candidate. RiggyG will endorse Kalonzo. Uhuru will back Matiangi. Muranga crew? Meru - Tharaka crew will likely
go to  KIndiki if he retain DPORK. Diaspora seem not ready to be used as war front with kalenjin.

So all in all - Murima have no strong gameplan - because they dont have viable candidate. RiggyG is un-electable even if allowed to run. He aint going to get one vote outside Murima

In such circumstances except people to have different schools of thought
1) If Kindiki is retained - many will see him as reprsenting the only realistic path back to power.
2)  Gachagua will go likely with Kalonzo - hoping to win Nairobi governor - and then have Mps & governors to play leverage.
3)  Uhuru will not give up - Jubilee - esp Kiambu & Nakuru & Nyandarua - will play their games - Matiangi if he doesnt fly like it appear-  they may back Kindiki
4)  Muranga will listen to Kangata and his kiharu boy Ndidi.
5)  Diaspora in RV will not play hostile politics esp those near the hotspots - so Gachagua politics wont be welcome there.

All in all - Kindiki MUST WIN MBEERE NORTH - and then use it as spring board.


MLIMA was powerful when Merus, Tharakas, Embus, and the usual 10% rebels were part of the 'mountain' politically. Now it is no longer Mlima but the fractures of Nyeri, Kiambu, Murang'a, and Nyandarua. Nakuru, the Kikuyu constituency, and parts of Laikipia and Mt Kenya East, where Kithure hails from, have detached. Kina Lee Kinyanjui, Kihika, Kabogo, Wahomes, Waigurus, Ngiricis, Ichungwah and big MT heavy hitters will be campaigning aggressively for one William Samoei, with the intention of subtly returning power to Mountain through Kindiki. That strategy will deflate Gachagua very painfully. Watch the space. Defeating Ruto politically is like cutting your own neck with halal knife. You will bleed, shit on your pants, and die in the process! Uhuru and Raila learnt the hard way last time, and they may learn harder again this time. Gachagua is already going bonkers, and the election is two years away. In one year millions of Kenyans will be moving to affordable houses, Talanta International Stadium will be buzzing with activities, and women will be occupying the clean 400 markets coming up in a high-profile show. At least 1-2 million rebel Kenyans will be saying, 'Who is this Samoe Ruto again?'

Meru gani sasa? RiggyG is Meru. That is the big problem Ruto faces - pushing a Tharaka on the Meru and Embu. Haiwezi.

The rebels are actually in Kiambu who feel entitled to power. Now they are saying the Uhuru they evicted is still their prince. :) But even the almighty Kimani Ichung'wa is being kicked by a DCP newbie.
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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2025, 12:42:37 PM »
Pundit having old Raila is not enough. If Ruto loses Mbeere and Malava the real game will start. But if Ruto wins both those seats it game over.

Just like Raila in 2008-13, Ruto has no answer for G7. As ICC indictees UhuRuto stringed Kalonzo and Eugene for 5 years. :) Riggy has Mlima and is ineligible so he will string Wiper, DAP-K, Matiang'i. There is nothing Ruto or Uhuru can offer them better than D/PORK.
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Re: Ruto, Raila and Uhuru likely have deal - opposition hopeless.
« Reply #14 on: October 06, 2025, 01:45:46 PM »
Raila is more than enough for Ruto.
Kindiki can still do the job.
Kalonzo can do the job.
Ruto with madvvd+weta will be aiming for 35-40%.
They will need Mt kenya East or Ukambani to nail 50% - then incumbency rigging kidogo :)
Raila brings min 25%.

As for Mt Kenya - Gachagua has two major problems 1) he is impeached 2) he is unelectable.

Kikuyus after Ruto dumping their guy - are angry - but also will not want to be out of power for 20yrs (read the rambling by the Kikuyu nationalist).

Anyway I still believe major plays will be 1)R tuo 2) Raila 3) Uhuru 4) Gachagua 5) Kalonzo.


Pundit having old Raila is not enough. If Ruto loses Mbeere and Malava the real game will start. But if Ruto wins both those seats it game over.

Just like Raila in 2008-13, Ruto has no answer for G7. As ICC indictees UhuRuto stringed Kalonzo and Eugene for 5 years. :) Riggy has Mlima and is ineligible so he will string Wiper, DAP-K, Matiang'i. There is nothing Ruto or Uhuru can offer them better than D/PORK.